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North Ayrshire Council · 5 September 2023
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Audit and Scrutiny Committee
27 June 2023 
At a Special Meeting of the Audit and Scrutiny Committee of North Ayrshire Council
at 10.15 a.m. involving participation by remote electronic means. 
Present
John Bell, Eleanor Collier, Cameron Inglis, Tom Marshall, Matthew McLean and
Davina McTiernan. 
Also Present
Timothy Billings, Stewart Ferguson, Todd Ferguson, Margaret Johnson and Christina
Larsen. 
In Attendance
M. Boyd, Head of Service (Finance), A. Craig, Head of Service (Democratic), S.
Wilson and D. McCaw, Committee Services Officers (Chief Executive’s Service). 
Chair
Councillor Bell in the Chair. 
Apologies
Ian Murdoch, Donald Reid and John Sweeney. 
1. Declarations of Interest 
There were no declarations of interest by Members in terms of Standing Order 11
and Section 5 of the Code of Conduct for Councillors. 
2. Call-In: Council Tax for Second and Empty Homes and Non Domestic
Rates Thresholds: Consultation 
Submitted report by the Chief Executive on a call-in request received in respect of
a decision taken by Cabinet on 13 June 2023 on the proposed response from
North Ayrshire Council to the Scottish Government consultation on Council Tax for
second and empty homes, and non-domestic rates thresholds.  The original
Cabinet report and consultation response were attached at Appendix 1 to the
report.  Appendix 2 to the report contained briefing notes provided by the Head of
Service (Finance) in response to the matters raised in the call-in request form. 
The Cabinet on 13 June 2023 agreed to approve the proposed consultation
response at Appendix 1 to the report, for submission to the Scottish Government
by the consultation deadline of 11 July 2023. 
Subsequently, a call-in request was received from Councillors Billings, T. Ferguson
and Stephen in the following terms:-

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Reason for Call-In 
“That the response to the Scottish Government consultation will form the basis of
North Ayrshire’s policy if this becomes policy and therefore, the Council’s responses
should be as complete and considered as possible. The current response makes
several assumptions about the potential benefits of charging additional council tax on
second homes that are not supported by any evidence. North Ayrshire Council is
currently undertaking wide-reaching research into the housing supply and housing
demand on Arran, with the aim of ascertaining where the housing gaps are on Arran
and what needs to be done to fill the gaps. There is no reference to this work in the
response. 
Other specific items are:
Question 2 – people with a second home for work purposes – the current
response is ‘don’t know’ and only suggests that key workers and staff in vital
services should be exempt from additional tax. We already know that our
island economies are struggling and that there is a shortage of staff across all
sectors of the economy, therefore, if somebody needs to get a second home to
take up employment on Arran or Cumbrae they should not be penalised with
additional council tax. 
Question 3 – The issues with the answer to this question are that it makes
some assumptions and does not provide a complete answer to the question. In
particular: 
• there is an assumption that local authorities must have this power as it is
‘important’ so that they can influence the housing market to increase the
availability of houses for local people. There is no evidence that just
making more houses available will increase the availability of housing for
the people that Arran needs to support local businesses or public
services. Arran already has more houses for sale per head of the
population compared with the rest of North Ayrshire, including properties
at the cheaper end of the housing stock.
• the answer assumes that a second home is used intermittently, which
some may be. However, a second home that is also rented out as a
holiday let would come into this category. There needs to be recognition
between the various types of second home usage because anecdotal
evidence suggests that holiday makers will spend more money in local
restaurants and shops than a permanent resident.
• there is an assumption that the same tax levels would be appropriate for
all areas within the local authority whereas it is possible that different
levels of tax on second homes could be needed depending on the local
circumstances. In addition it may be appropriate to have different levels
of additional council tax on different levels of council tax. For example, if
the main purpose of the additional council tax is to increase the
availability of affordable housing for sale there is no point in penalising
people living in houses rated at G for council tax as these will never be
‘affordable’ homes.

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Question 4 – this question is about the maximum level of taxation. The
response from does recognise that levels of taxation will depend on modelling
and impact assessment. However, it does not include recommendations that
local authorities should have full flexibility on level of taxation so that different
levels of taxation could be used in different areas of the local authority and that
different levels of taxation could be appropriate for differently tax rated
properties.
The response does not make it clear that levels of taxation for second homes
and empty homes must be considered together as one would not want to
encourage a home to be left empty because the level of taxation would be
less. 
Question 5 – all of the factors in this section are about the availability of
housing. There are no factors relating to the assessment of the housing needs
for an area, and if the change in housing availability caused by increases in
council tax on second homes would benefit the housing needs of the area. 
In addition the response does not include the possible harm caused by
additional levels of council tax. For example, if the result of increased taxation
was a glut of houses for sale causing a fall in prices forcing existing home
owners into negative equity thereby stagnating the Arran housing market. 
Question 8 – this response already states that local authorities should have
flexibility to impose additional council tax on empty properties depending on
local circumstances. However, it does not state that levels of empty home
taxation must be considered along side second home taxation, and that local
authorities should have the flexibility to vary rates across the authority area
and across properties with different council tax rates. 
Question 21 – the response is confusing several issues many of which are not
related to the question. The response does recognise that further assessment
is required but there are gaps in the response and there are some implied
assumptions that are not supported by evidence. In particular, there is nothing
about assessment of housing need and housing supply, and what changes in
the housing market that imposing increases in council tax could have.
The question asks for the opinion about what changes in taxation might have
on local business. There are two ways in which business could be impacted –
first is that there is a change in economic activity of the people occupying
properties, the second is that there could be changes in the supply of
properties for people to live in who work in local businesses.  However, until
there is a full assessment of the relationship between housing demand,
housing supply, and economic activity of property residents it is not possible to
make an assessment on the impact that any changes in council tax levels
could help support.” 
Desired Outcome 
“The desired outcome is that the wording of the response to the Scottish
Government’s consultation on council tax on second homes is amended to
make the wording neutral when referencing the potential effects that higher
levels of council tax, and there is reference to all the possible impacts that
interference with the housing market could have.

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There should also be reference to the housing research that NAC is doing and
that should be an integral part of the decision-making process before any
decisions are made regarding increases in council tax for second homes. 
Other specific changes are:
Question 2 – response changed to ‘yes’ and that it should apply to all people
who move away from their main home to take up employment. Local
authorities need to support people moving to islands to take up employment
and should not penalise anybody moving to an island for work purposes with
additional council tax. It should be noted that if the person moving to take up
work rented a second home for job purposes they would not be penalised so
why should somebody who purchases a home be penalised for taking up
employment. 
Question 3 –the response should:
• state that if local authorities have the power to increase the council tax
for second homeowners there must be evidence that the housing need
would be solved by forcing second homeowners to put their homes up for
sale.
• recognise that there may be a difference in economic benefit from having
a permanent or holiday resident which must be fully assessed so as not
create unintended harm to the local economy.
• state that local authorities must have fully assessed the housing supply
and demand factors for any area where additional second home tax is
being considered, and have evidence that imposing additional tax will
help have a positive influence on the housing market;
• state that local authorities should be able to have different levels of
council tax supplements for different areas within the local authority.
• state that local authorities should be able to have different levels of
additional council tax for different rated properties so that local authorities
have the flexibility to promote positive changes in specific areas of the
housing stock that are in short supply. 
Question 4 – the response should include recommendations that if local
authorities are going to impose additional council tax then the rates of taxation
should be based on full assessment of local circumstances, and the levels of
tax could be different in different geographic area and could be different for
properties with different tax ratings. The purpose of this is to give local
authorities to use its powers flexibly so as to support the desired response
within the housing market whilst not penalising or damaging other aspects of
the area’s economy or community.
The response should also make it clear that rates for empty and second
homes must be linked and have the same flexibility so that there is no benefit
in leaving a property empty. 
Question 5 – the list of main factors must include an assessment of the
housing needs for an area, so that before imposing council tax increases on
second homes there is some assurance that the changes in local housing
supply will actually have a positive impact on the assessed housing need.
The response must include reference to possible negative effects of falling
property prices causing economic hardship for existing homeowning residents,
such as negative equity and stagnation of the housing market.

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Question 8 -  the NAC answer should restate that councils should have total
flexibility to impose additional council tax on empty homes depending on
locally agreed criteria and circumstances, and that this will include varying tax
levels in different geographic area and across different council tax bands. 
Question 21 –The question asks for the opinion about what changes in
taxation might have on local business. There are two ways in which business
could be impacted – first is that there is a change in economic activity of the
people occupying properties, the second is that there could be changes in the
supply of properties for people to live in who work in local businesses. 
However, until there is a full assessment of the relationship between housing
demand, housing supply, and economic activity of property residents it is not
possible to make an assessment on the impact that any changes in council tax
levels could help support. 
Therefore, the response to this question must start with the assumption that
the local authority has assessed the local supply and demand for housing, and
that the potential changes caused by imposing increases in council tax will
have a positive impact on the local shortage of housing types and will support
increases in the overall economic activity in the area. 
Before introducing tax changes local authorities must be confident that imposing
council tax increases will have a realistic expectation of positive changes in the
housing market and increases in overall economic activity.” 
The Head of Democratic Services summarised the procedure for considering the
call-in request in terms of Standing Orders and referred to the Cabinet decision. 
Thereafter, the Members who had requested the call-in were invited to speak.
Councillor Billings advised that he would speak to the call-in request, with
Councillor T. Ferguson being available to support, if required. Councillor Billings
then addressed the Committee in support of the call-in request with further
comment being provided by Councillor T Ferguson. 
The Chair then invited Councillor Larsen, as the Cabinet Member for Finance, to
address the meeting.  Councillor Larsen explained the reasoning for the Cabinet
decision and referred to an explanatory note from the Head of Service (Finance)
provided at Appendix 2 to the report. 
Councillor T. Ferguson left the meeting at this point. 
The Head of Service (Finance) was also heard in relation to the report presented to
Cabinet and on issues raised by the call-in, reference being made to the
explanatory note at Appendix 2 to the report. 
Councillor T. Ferguson rejoined the meeting at this point. 
Members asked questions of Councillors Billings and Larsen and the Head of
Service (Finance) and were provided with further information in relation to:- 
• the importance of the consultation in relation to any future legislation to be
issued to Councils;

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• any future Council Tax levels on second and empty homes being determined
by the full Council, should additional powers be allocated by the Scottish
Government;
• challenges concerning affordable housing availability within the island
community of Arran;
• whether evidence-based impact assessments should inform any consultation
response;
• the timeframe for submission of the consultation response;
• support for the principle of the Council having financial flexibility to utilise any
powers allocated; and
• the requirement for evidence-based modelling around affordable housing
needs on Arran should additional powers be assigned. 
Councillor Marshall, seconded by Councillor McLean, moved that the Committee
agree to accept the terms of the call-in request and refer the matter to the Cabinet
for further consideration. 
As an amendment Councillor Collier, seconded by Councillor McTiernan, moved that
the Committee agree not to support the call-in request and that the previous decision
of Cabinet should stand, with the consultation response being submitted to the
Scottish Government by the 11 July 2023 deadline. 
Thereafter, on a division and a roll call vote, there voted for the amendment,
Councillors Bell, Collier and McTiernan (3) and for the motion, Councillors Inglis,
Marshall and McLean (3).  There being an equality of votes, the Chair exercised his
casting vote in terms of Standing Order 19.6, and the amendment was declared
carried. 
Accordingly, the Committee agreed not to support the call-in request and that the
previous decision of Cabinet should stand, with the consultation response being
submitted to the Scottish Government by the 11 July 2023 deadline. 
The meeting ended at 11.10 a.m.