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Argyll and Bute Council · 23 October 2024
Back to Planning, Protective Services and Licensing Committee — 23 October 2024 and its agenda

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MINUTES of MEETING of PLANNING, PROTECTIVE SERVICES AND LICENSING COMMITTEE
held BY MICROSOFT TEAMS 
on FRIDAY, 20 SEPTEMBER 2024 
Present: Councillor Kieron Green (Chair) 
Councillor Jan Brown
Councillor Audrey Forrest
Councillor Daniel Hampsey 
Councillor Graham Hardie
Councillor Fiona Howard 
Attending: Stuart McLean, Committee Manager
Alison MacLeod, Licensing Standards Officer
David Walker, Solicitor
Jennifer Shannon, Applicant
Greig Cavanagh, Applicant 
1. APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE 
Apologies for absence were received from Councillors John Armour, Gordon Blair,
Amanda Hampsey, Mark Irvine, Paul Kennedy, Dougie Philand and Peter Wallace. 
2. DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST 
Councillor Fiona Howard declared a non-financial interest in the application for grant of a
Short-Term Let License (G Cavanagh & J Shannon, Flat 1/3, 67 East Princes Street,
Helensburgh, G84 7DG) as she was a personal friend of the objector.  She confirmed that
she would leave the meeting and take no part the consideration of this application which
was dealt with at item 3 of this Minute. 
Councillor Fiona Howard, having declared an interest in the following item, left the meeting
at this point. 
3. CIVIC GOVERNMENT (SCOTLAND) ACT 1982: THE CIVIC GOVERNMENT
(SCOTLAND) ACT 1982 (LICENSING OF SHORT-TERM LETS) ORDER 2022:
APPLICATION FOR GRANT OF A SHORT-TERM LET LICENCE (G CAVANAGH
& J SHANNON, FLAT 1/3, 67 EAST PRINCES STREET, HELENSBURGH, G84
7DG) 
The Chair welcomed everyone to the meeting.  In line with recent legislation for Civic
Government Hearings, the parties (and any representatives) were given the options for
participating in the meeting today.  The options available were by video call, by audio call
or by written submission.  For this hearing the Applicants had opted to proceed by way of
video call and Greig Cavanagh and Jennifer Shannon joined the meeting by MS Teams. 
Sue Smith, Objector, had opted to proceed by way of written submission. A copy of this
was contained within the agenda pack and was considered by Members as part of their
deliberations. 
The Chair invited the Licensing Standards Officer to speak to the terms of the report.

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Thereafter the procedure set out in Appendix 5 of the report was followed and the Chair
invited the Applicants to speak in support for their application. 
APPLICANT 
Ms Shannon spoke on behalf of herself and Mr Cavanagh.  She thanked the Committee
for taking the time to review the application. 
She addressed the concerns raised by the Objector and stated that Sue Smith had
acknowledged that the inspection report was satisfactory.  She advised that following the
objections that were raised they had fitted carpets in the living area, hall and bedroom but
felt it was unreasonable to be asked to carpet the kitchen. 
In respect of the objection raised about the bins she stated that the objection was the first
they had been told that the location of the bins was not suitable and that they had been
sited in the same location since they bought the property in November 2023.  She advised
they had moved the bins to beside the outdoor staircase but this had not resolved the
objection. She advised that they had asked the Objector where she would like the bins to
be located but she had offered no recommendations.  The Objector had suggested they
install a black bottle bin, which they had, and all bins had been clearly labelled with the flat
number. 
Ms Shannon stated that the parking for the property was on a main road with no double
yellow lines and since purchasing the property they had not experienced any issues with
parking.  Due to the size of the property they would only expect 1 or 2 cars to require
parking at any one time. 
She advised that they had employed a Property Management Company to ensure the
smooth operation of the Short-Term Let.  Under their guidance they had produced a guest
handbook and installed a Ring doorbell camera.  The camera would allow them to monitor
the occupancy numbers and view all activity on the external staircase at the entrance to
the property. 
She stated that guests would be given the telephone number of the Property Management
Company along with her own mobile number.  Due to her close proximity to the property
she would be able to attend in person within 5 minutes should any issues arise. 
Ms Shannon advised that the Objectors flat had previously been used as a commercial
property but upon changing the use to residential the Objector had designed the layout to
have the bedroom beside the external staircase.  As well as the window beside the
staircase there was another which looks directly on to the main street. 
She advised that the Objector had acknowledged that the Applicants had greatly improved
the interior of the property.  In respect of the exterior issues such as roughcasting and
guttering, the Objector had indicated that the condition had deteriorated over a number of
years.  She stated that she had obtained a quote to improve the roughcasting but the
Objector had been unwilling to split the cost of the work to the areas which were shared
responsibility. 
She stated that she was aware that another property in the block had applied for a Short-
Term Let Licence and had not received any objections despite also having access to the
shared garden and walkway.

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Ms Shannon stated that they had tried to address all the concerns which were raised but it
had not made any difference and she felt the Objector was using the application to make
them pay for the totality of the exterior works. 
MEMBERS’ QUESTIONS 
Councillor Brown asked what restrictions they were prepared to place on the use of the
shared garden.  Ms Shannon advised that initially they were prepared to surrender their
use of the garden but as the other Short-Term Let property had access they did not now
feel that was a fair solution. 
Councillor Hardie asked if their relationship with the neighbour was cordial.  Ms Shannon
advised that they had previously had a very good relationship but it had deteriorated when
they asked her to contribute to the cost of the roughcasting, and that was when the
objection had been submitted. 
Councillor Green asked if the kitchen and dining area still had hard flooring.  Ms Shannon
advised that the living area, kitchen and dining area were open plan and they had been
carpeted up to the kitchen units but she felt it was unreasonable to ask for the kitchen to
be carpeted where there would be food preparation.  She stated that it was a small portion
of the area above the Objectors bedroom that had hard flooring and that the Objector had
previously advised that her bed was situated under the living area which had been
carpeted. 
SUMMING UP 
Applicant 
Ms Shannon advised that they were happy to contribute to the upkeep of the exterior of
the building and that their main focus was looking after the property and their guests. 
Councillor Green asked the Applicants if they felt they had received a fair hearing to which
both confirmed they had. 
DEBATE 
Councillor Hardie stated he felt the applicant had been responsible in addressing all the
issues that had been raised and he was happy to grant the licence. 
Councillor Hampsey stated he agreed with Councillor Hardie and was minded to grant the
licence. 
Councillor Forrest stated that as the Applicant had addressed every objection she was
happy to grant the licence. 
Councillor Brown said that as the Applicant had taken on board all of the issues raised she
was happy to grant the licence. 
Councillor Green stated that as he lived in a close he had some sympathy with the issues
raised relating to noise and the external staircase, however, it was clear that the Applicant
had addressed all concerns are far as was practically possible and he was therefore
happy to grant the licence.

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DECISION 
The Committee agreed to grant a Short-Term Let Licence subject the inclusion of
additional conditions in respect of Antisocial Behaviour; Privacy and Security; Noise
Control in Flatted Premises and Littering and Waste Disposal. 
(Reference: Report by Head of Legal and Regulatory Support, submitted)