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Notice of Meeting and Agenda 
General Purposes Committee 
Venue:  Council Chambers/Hybrid, 
Midlothian House, Dalkeith, EH22 1DN 
Date:  Tuesday, 19 November 2024 
Time:  10:00 
Executive Director : Place 
Contact:
Clerk Name: Democratic Services
Clerk Telephone: 
Clerk Email: democratic.services@midlothian.gov.uk 
Further Information: 
This is a meeting which is open to members of the public.  
Privacy notice: Please note that this meeting may be recorded. The
recording may be publicly available following the meeting. If you would
like to know how Midlothian Council collects, uses and shares your
personal information, please visit our website: www.midlothian.gov.uk 
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1          Welcome, Introductions and Apologies   
2          Order of Business 
Including notice of new business submitted as urgent for consideration at the
end of the meeting. 
3          Declaration of Interest 
Members should declare any financial and non-financial interests they have in
the items of business for consideration, identifying the relevant agenda item
and the nature of their interest. 
4          Minute of Previous Meeting
4.1 Minute of the General Purposes Committee Meeting of 10 June
2024
3 - 4
4.2 Private Addendum to the Minute of the General Purposes
Committee of 10 June 2024 
5          Public Reports 
5.1 GP Committee Report 19 Nov 2024 - Licensing of Taxis and
Private Hire Vehicles - Window Tinting
5 - 16 
6          Private Reports 
Exclusion of Members of the Public  (A) TO CONSIDER
RESOLVING TO DEAL WITH THE UNDERNOTED BUSINESS
IN PRIVATE IN TERMS OF PARAGRAPHS 3 AND 6 OF PART 1
OF SCHEDULE 7A TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT
(SCOTLAND) ACT 1973 - THE RELEVANT REPORTS ARE
THEREFORE NOT FOR PUBLICATION; AND  (B) TO NOTE
THAT NOTWITHSTANDING ANY SUCH RESOLUTION,
INFORMATION MAY STILL REQUIRE TO BE RELEASED
UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION (SCOTLAND) ACT
2002 OR THE ENVIRONMENTAL INFORMATION
REGULATIONS 2004 
6.1 Application for Renewal of a Taxi Driver's Licence 
7          Date of Next Meeting 
The next meeting will be held on Tuesday 4 February 2025. 
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1-993 
Minute of Meeting 
General Purposes Committee 
Date Time Venue
Monday 10 June 2024 10.00 am Council Chambers/Hybrid 
Present: 
Councillor Virgo (Chair) Councillor Bowen 
Councillor Cassidy Councillor Curran
Councillor Drummond (virtual) Councillor Imrie 
Councillor McCall  Councillor McEwan
Councillor McManus Councillor Pottinger (virtual)
Councillor Parry Councillor Winchester
Councillor McKenzie 
In attendance: 
Alan Turpie, Legal and Governance Manager / Monitoring Officer
Derek Oliver, Chief Officer Place 
Edel Ryan, Senior Manager Protective Services
Gary Leadbetter, Democratic Services Officer
Hannah Forbes, Democratic Services Assistant 
General Purposes Committee 
Tuesday 19 November 2024
Item No 4.1 
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1. Welcome and Apologies 
The Chair welcomed everyone to the meeting of the General Purposes (GP)
Committee. 
Apologies were received for Councillor Alexander, Councillor Milligan, Councillor
Russell, Councillor Scott and Councillor Smaill. 
2. Order of Business 
As per the Agenda. 
The Chair advised that the report for consideration today had been listed as a
public report on the Agenda and that this was an error. The Chair explained that
the report had not been made public and that it would be correctly updated on
the Council’s website to show that the report is a private report. 
3. Declarations of interest 
None received. 
4. Minute of Previous Meeting 
The Minute and the Private Addendum to the Minute of the Meeting of 30 April
2024 were submitted and approved as a correct record. 
5. Public Reports 
No items for discussion. 
6. Private Reports 
Exclusion of Members of the Public 
In view of the nature of the business to be transacted, the Committee agreed
that the public be excluded from the meeting during discussion of the
undernoted item, as contained in the Addendum hereto, as there might be
disclosed exempt information as defined in paragraphs 3, 6 and 14 of Part I of
Schedule 7A to the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973:- 
6.1 Short-Terms Let Licensing – Determination of a Licence Application Reference
No. ML00110N 1 Kirkettle Cottages, Rosewell, Roslin, EG25 9QB. 
7. Date of Next Meeting 
The date of the next meeting is Tuesday, 20 August 2024 at 10:00 am. 
The meeting terminated at 10:38am.
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General Purposes Committee 
Tuesday 19 November 2024
Item No 5.1 
Licensing of Taxis and Private Hire Vehicles – Amendment to Condition
relating to Window Tinting 
Report by Derek Oliver , Chief Officer Place   
Report for Decision 
1 Recommendations 
Members are asked to consider the content of this report and to decide
whether to adopt the suggested amended licensing condition, or a variation
of, in relation to tinting/light transmission in taxi and private hire vehicle
windows, 
The proposed condition: 
“The windscreen, all windows and glass partitions (where fitted) must be
made of safety glass in accordance with the British or European Standard in
force at the time of approval.” 
“The minimum level of light transmission in the glass contained in the front
windscreen (75%) and the doors for the front passenger and driver (70%),
when measured against the light meter at the Taxi Examination Centre, must
comply with the standard specified in Section 32(10) of the Road Vehicles
(Construction and Use) Regulations 1986.” 
“The minimum level of light transmission in the glass contained in all other
windows, excluding the rear tailgate window, when measured against the light
meter at the Taxi Examination Centre, must be a minimum of 70%.” 
“The minimum level of light transmission in the glass contained in the rear
tailgate window, when measured against the light meter at the Taxi
Examination Centre, must be a minimum of 30% and should not be reduced
from the factory fit option by the addition of any film, temporary tint material, or
replacement glass.” 
2 Purpose of Report/Executive Summary 
To inform Members regarding trade concerns in relation to Midlothian
Council’s current position on window tinting in taxi and private hire vehicles
and to consider whether the relevant taxi and private hire licensing conditions
in this regard should be amended. 
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Members will wish to be aware that the full suite of taxi licensing conditions
are being reviewed and will shortly be presented for consideration, however
this matter of window tinting is of current significance to the trade. 
Date: 25th October 2024 
Report Contact:
David Robertson  Tel No: 07721 736993  
Team Manager – Health, Safety & Resilience 
david.robertson@midlothian.gov.uk 
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3 Background 
3.1 This report concerns the specific issue of window tinting in taxis and private
hire vehicles. A wider report recommending a review of all taxi and private
hire licensing conditions will be forthcoming in due course. 
3.2 A small number of private hire operators have recently expressed frustration
at the Council’s current licensing condition specifically relating to window
tinting. For both taxis and private hire vehicles, the condition currently reads: 
“The maximum permitted level of tint in the glass contained in the front
windscreen and the doors for the front passenger and driver, when measured
against the light meter at the Taxi Examination Centre, is 25% in terms of the
Construction and Use Regulations; and the level in respect of all other window
glass is 35% + or – 2%.” 
3.3 The concerns expressed by the trade relates to the fact that increasingly,
suitable vehicles cannot be purchased without a higher tint level as standard
in the windows rear of the driver. A recent known example of this is a Ford
Journey (wheelchair accessible) which as standard comes with AS3 privacy
glass* in the rear side and rear tailgate windows. This type of glass often has
a light transmission of less than 70%, (i.e., greater than 30% tint). In this
particular case, although the rear side windows could be replaced at
significant cost, the tailgate window could not. Many vehicles are now being
manufactured with less than 70% light transmission for windows rear of the
driver. 
3.4 The legislation relating to this matter is contained in Section 32(10) of the
Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986. Table II of that
section lays down the requirements for all roadworthy vehicles as follows: 
Class of
Vehicles Windows
Minimum
Percentage light
transmission
Officer Comment 
Motor vehicles
first used before
1st April 1985
All windows 70
i.e. a tint level no
greater than 30% 
Motor vehicles
first used on or
after 1st April
1985 and trailers
(a)  Windscreens 75 i.e. a tint level no
greater than 25%
(b) All other
windows 70
i.e. a tint level no
greater than 30% and
not relating to
windows behind the
B-pillar 
Although windscreens must allow visual transmission of light of 75%, all other
windows must have a visual transmission of light of not less than 70%,
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equivalent to a maximum tint of 30%. However, Regulation 32 (11) goes on to
state that this standard does not apply to windows through which the driver
when in the driver's seat is unable at any time to see any part of the road on
which the vehicle is waiting or proceeding. This is commonly interpreted to
mean windows that are rear of the B-pillar. This is located between a vehicle's
front and rear side glass and serves as a structural support to the roof. 
3.5 Compared to this legal standard with Midlothian Council’s current conditions,
Midlothian currently apply a stricter level of permitted tint for the front side
windows, maximum 25% instead of legally permitted maximum 30%. In
addition, a maximum permitted tint of 35% for all other windows goes beyond
what is legally required as there is no standard set in legislation for windows
rear of the B-pillar. 
3.6  Scottish Government 
3.6.1 Scottish Government guidance on this particular issue is sparse. The most
recent and relevant publication, “Taxi and Private Hire Licensing - Best
Practice for Licensing Authorities and Taxi and Private Hire Operators - 3rd
Edition, May 2023,” makes no reference to the tinting of windows but
concentrates more on security measures such as partition screens and CCTV.
CCTV has been suggested by the taxi and private hire licensing trade as a
mitigating measure to remove concerns around tinting. 
3.6.2   However, for information, there has been some movement on this topic in 
England. The UK Government publication, “Taxi and private hire vehicle
licensing best practice guidance for licensing authorities in England – updated
Nov 2023“, which references the same legislation, namely the Road Vehicles
(Construction and Use) Regulations 1986, makes the following points: 
1. It acknowledges that there are no rules for levels of tinting to the windows
rear of the B-pillar and vehicles are often manufactured with glass in the
rear that is darker than the front, especially in luxury, estate and people
carrier style vehicles. 
2. There is a significant cost and inconvenience associated with requiring
drivers to replace the standard manufacturer or factory specifications for
window glass. Some passengers may feel more comfortable in vehicles
that do not have very heavily tinted rear windows but there is a lack of
evidence to suggest that these are detrimental to public safety. 
3. Balancing these factors, the Government considers that licensing
authorities should not require the removal of windows rear of the B-pillar if
they have a minimum light transmission of 30% or above (up to max 70%
tint). This should maintain passenger confidence whilst ensuring a wide
range of vehicles may be licensed. 
4. The department recognises that a minimum light transmission of 30% for
windows rear of the B-pillar might impact on executive hire vehicles, where
passengers demand a higher degree of privacy. Some licensing authorities
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already grant executive hire vehicles plate exemptions, and they could
determine that an exemption from the 30% minimum light transmission
level for these vehicles is appropriate. Authorities should be assured that
those vehicles are not used for ‘normal fares’. 
3.7 Police Scotland 
3.7.1 Police Scotland have also contributed to the debate on this issue. In response
to an appeal made to Midlothian Council by a taxi operator in 2017, following
a vehicle failing an inspection due to excessive tinting in the rear window,
Police Scotland were asked to comment. Note that the licensing condition
being applied at that time was the same as listed above in Section 3.2. The
then Chief Constable responded as follows: 
“The purpose of the conditions relating to window tints is to allow an
unrestricted view into the vehicle at all times. From a policing perspective this
is to allow officers to clearly see if a Private Hire Car or Taxi is carrying
passengers. This is important as there are aspects of enforcement of licensing
conditions and road traffic legislation that are affected by the carriage of
passengers. The Police Service of Scotland fully supports Midlothian Council
in its position of maintaining standards in terms of window tints.” 
3.7.2   A more recent response by Police Scotland on this matter (September 2024)
has confirmed that they would be agreeable to a more flexible approach in
relation to the rear window.  The Cab Inspector at St. Leonard’s Police Station
in Edinburgh stated the following: 
“It is of use to Police Scotland to be able to see within the rear of the vehicle
to establish if there are passengers, as some road traffic legislation, and
indeed conditions differ depending on whether there is someone in the rear or
not. It may also be the case that potential customers would be more satisfied
going into a vehicle into which anyone can see for safety reasons, especially
at night, or when travelling in a licensed vehicle alone. 
Our preference would be not to allow tint in the rear windows for the reasons
provided, but I do understand the argument from the trade re the availability of
non-tinted windows on the market.” 
3.7.3   When subsequently asked if Midlothian Council were to relax its condition for
the rear tailgate window only, would this excessively impinge on the Police’s
ability/preference to see into the vehicle? It was explained that this question
was only being directed in relation to the tailgate window as many wheelchair
accessible vehicles now have tinting of this window as standard, which in
some cases cannot be replaced. His reply was as follows:       
“If the sides were still visible then officers would be able to see in from the
front/side. I would be more comfortable with that, given that if officers were in
any doubt, then they are able to pull the vehicle over and check whether they
have passengers on board or not.”  
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3.8 Other Councils  
3.8.1   To further assist Members in forming an opinion on this, it is appropriate to
consider the equivalent conditions and views of our neighbouring licensing
authorities. Comments were taken from East Lothian Council, Edinburgh City
Council and West Lothian Council and are summarised in Sections below. 
3.8.2   East Lothian Council
The relevant licensing condition states: 
“The vehicle must have windows at the sides and rear and be of such
transparency as to enable the driver and passengers to be seen from outside
the vehicle.” 
“For vehicles used on or after 01 April 1985 the light transmitted through the
windscreen must be at least 75%. The front side windows must allow at least
70% of light to be transmitted through them. All rear windows must allow at
least 40% of light to be transmitted through them.” 
3.8.3   Edinburgh City Council   
The relevant licensing condition states: 
“The windscreen, all windows and glass partitions (where fitted) must be
made of safety glass in accordance with the European Standard in force at
the time of approval and be capable of affording an unrestricted view of the
vehicle interior. An unrestricted view may permit a tint of up to 25% (+/-2%).” 
3.8.4 West Lothian 
The relevant licensing condition states: 
“The windscreen and all windows and glass partitions (where fitted) must be
safety glass in accordance with the European Standard in force at the time of
approval and be of a clear material or the manufacturer’s fitted comfort glass
giving unrestricted vision to the vehicle interior. Other types of tinted glass are
not permitted.” 
This condition has remained unchanged since 2011. 
3.9 Conclusions 
3.9.1  There is some variation in the conditions currently set by our neighbouring
Local Authorities. Although Midlothian Council’s current conditions are already
in line with what is legally required, we do however have a higher standard
than what is legally permitted. This affects in particular, the front passenger
and driver door windows, namely by raising the permitted level of tint to 30%
instead of 25% (70% light transmission instead of 75%). This represents a
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small but necessary relaxation in our current position relating to those
windows. 
3.9.2 Secondly, in relation to the remaining windows to the rear of the B-pillar, the
views of Police Scotland should perhaps take precedent due to concerns in
relation to the prevention of crime. They remain concerned about not being
able to see into the vehicle although appear to be more flexible regarding the
rear tailgate window. 
3.9.3  Balanced against this is the best practice guidance now being applied in
England. It stipulates that licensing authorities should not require the removal
of windows rear of the B-pillar if they have a minimum light transmission of
30% or above (up to max 70% tint). This policy has been sighted by the trade
who are currently experiencing difficulties in sourcing suitable vehicles, or
which require adaption at significant cost to comply with Midlothian Council’s
present conditions. 
3.9.4  Darker tinted windows fundamentally make it more difficult to see into the rear
of a vehicle. For licensed vehicles this presents a number of matters which
require further consideration: 
• Vulnerable passengers, for example young persons, the elderly and
lone females may feel safer in a vehicle where they can be clearly seen
from the outside. 
• Passengers are unable to see into the vehicle and would be unaware if
someone was already in the vehicle again posing a potential risk to the
passengers 
• Activities taking place in the vehicle cannot be viewed from the outside
posing a potential risk to both passengers and the driver.
• It is desirable that enforcement officers can see into the vehicle to
carryout compliance and enforcement activity, i.e. to see that the
maximum number of passengers that the vehicle is licensed to carry is
not being exceeded and that all passengers are wearing seat belts. 
3.9.5  Taking this all into account, Members are being asked to consider what view
to take in relation to the level of permitted tint in the rear windows. Members
may consider that by relaxing the standard applied to the rear tailgate window
only, that this may provide an appropriate compromise at this point. 
3.9.6  To assist Members, an appropriate replacement condition could be worded as
follows. Please note that levels are now being expressed in terms of light
transmission instead of % tint as that is the unit of measurement applied in
legislation: 
“The windscreen, all windows and glass partitions (where fitted) must be
made of safety glass in accordance with the British or European Standard in
force at the time of approval.” 
“The minimum level of light transmission in the glass contained in the front
windscreen (75%) and the doors for the front passenger and driver (70%),
when measured against the light meter at the Taxi Examination Centre, must
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comply with the standard specified in Section 32(10) of the Road Vehicles
(Construction and Use) Regulations 1986.” 
“The minimum level of light transmission in the glass contained in all other
windows, excluding the rear tailgate window, when measured against the light
meter at the Taxi Examination Centre, must be a minimum of 70%.” 
“The minimum level of light transmission in the glass contained in the rear
tailgate window, when measured against the light meter at the Taxi
Examination Centre, must be a minimum of 30% and should not be reduced
from the factory fit option by the addition of any film, temporary tint material, or
replacement glass.” 
4 Report Implications (Resource, Digital and Risk) 
4.1 Resource 
There are no costs to the Council as a consequence of this report. 
4.2 Digital 
None 
4.3 Risk 
The recommendations contained in this report do not present any additional
risks to the Council. Should Members decide to amend the current taxi and
private hire vehicle licensing condition regarding the current level of permitted
tint in the rear tailgate window, it is considered that this will have a very
minimal effect on the detection of crime as members of the public and
enforcement offices will still be able to see into the vehicle from the side
windows. Reputational risk may also be reduced relevant to the taxi and
private hire vehicle operators as  additional costs will not be incurred. 
4.4 Ensuring Equalities (if required a separate IIA must be completed) 
The content of this report has no effect on equality issues. 
4.4 Additional Report Implications (See Appendix A) 
See Appendix A 
Appendices 
Appendix A – Additional Report Implications
Appendix B – Background information/Links
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APPENDIX A – Report Implications 
A.1 Key Priorities within the Single Midlothian Plan 
• The proposals contained in this report will contribute to the achievement of
reducing the gap in economic circumstances by potentially reducing costs to
local businesses. 
A.2 Key Drivers for Change 
Key drivers addressed in this report: 
Holistic Working 
Hub and Spoke 
Modern 
Sustainable 
Transformational 
Preventative 
Asset-based 
Continuous Improvement 
One size fits one 
None of the above 
A.3 Key Delivery Streams 
Key delivery streams addressed in this report: 
One Council Working with you, for you 
Preventative and Sustainable 
Efficient and Modern 
Innovative and Ambitious 
None of the above 
A.4 Delivering Best Value 
By considering their views, this report contributes to delivering best value for
local taxi and private hire operators. 
A.5 Involving Communities and Other Stakeholders 
Significant stakeholders, namely Police Scotland, other local authorities and
the licensing trade have all been involved in formulating the recommendations
contained in this report. A full consultation has not been undertaken with the
trade given that the proposal is to slightly relax the current condition and there
is no requirement that existing vehicles need be altered or replaced. 
A.6 Impact on Performance and Outcomes 
None
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A.7 Adopting a Preventative Approach 
This report helps to prevent discontentment and unnecessary costs incurred
by local taxi and private hire operators. 
A.8 Supporting Sustainable Development 
No significant impacts. 
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APPENDIX B 
Background Papers/Resource Links 
The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986
(legislation.gov.uk) 
Taxi and private hire car licensing: guidance - third edition - gov.scot
(www.gov.scot) 
Taxi and private hire vehicle licensing best practice guidance for licensing
authorities in England - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk) 
*AS3 = AS3 glass is a darker tint and is often referred to as privacy glass. AS3 glass is
most commonly used by vehicle manufacturers in the side rear windows, and the rear
windshield. 
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