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Minute of the Meeting of the Helensburgh and Lomond Area Committee, Held on 11 March 2025

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MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE HELENSBURGH & LOMOND AREA COMMITTEE HELD
ON A HYBRID BASIS IN THE MARRIAGE SUITE IN THE HELENSBURGH AND LOMOND
CIVIC CENTRE AND BY MICROSOFT TEAMS 
ON TUESDAY, 11 MARCH 2025 
Present: Councillor Mark Irvine (Chair) 
Councillor Math Campbell-Sturgess
Councillor Fiona Howard
Councillor Paul Donald Kennedy 
Councillor Ian James MacQuire
Councillor Iain Shonny Paterson
Councillor Gemma Penfold 
Attending: Stuart McLean, Committee Manager 
Douglas Whyte, Team Lead – Housing Strategy 
Colin Young, Strategic Transportation Delivery Officer
Mark Calder, Project Manager 
Kirsty Durrant, Economic Regeneration Officer
Linda MacBeath, Head Teacher, Rhu Primary School
Gemma Houston, Head Teacher, Hermitage Primary School
Inspector Bart Simonis, Police Scotland
PC Chris McCrate, Police Scotland 
1. APOLOGIES 
The Chair welcomed everyone to the meeting. 
Apologies for absence were intimated on behalf of Councillors Maurice Corry, Graham
Hardie and Gary Mulvaney. 
2. DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST 
There were no declarations of interest intimated. 
3. MINUTE OF THE MEETING OF THE HELENSBURGH AND LOMOND AREA
COMMITTEE, HELD ON 10 DECEMBER 2024 
The Minute of the meeting of the Helensburgh and Lomond Area Committee, held on 10
December 2024 was approved as a correct record. 
4. PUBLIC QUESTION TIME 
The Chair having noted that two questions had been submitted by a member of the public
in advance of the meeting, and having noted that this member of the public was in
attendance, invited him to ask his questions. The Chair then invited any other members of
the public in attendance to submit any questions they may have.
Dr Peter Brown, Helensburgh Community Council
Question 1
Argyll and Bute Council are currently running a consultation about applying a Visitor Levy
for the region. One or two Councillors have expressed their opinion about the levy in
public, but I would be grateful if all of the Committee would give their views on the levy.

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The Chair advised that he was currently undecided as to whether or not the Levy was a
good idea and that as the consultation is ongoing, it would be inappropriate for him to
make a decision without all of the evidence being available at this time.
Councillor Penfold agreed that she would need to see the evidence from the consultation
before making a decision but advised that at the moment she was against it due to the fact
that there is no evidence that the public are happy with this Levy being introduced.
Councillor Campbell-Sturgess advised that he was not against having a Visitor Levy but
that the information from the consultation will be able to provide information on whether
the Levy would work in Argyll and Bute and did not want to pre-judge the outcome.
Councillor Kennedy advised that he was initially against the Levy but will wait until the
results from the consultation are known before making a decision.
Councillor Paterson advised that due to the ongoing consultation that he would not take a
view until it is over and he finds out what his constituents want.
Councillor Howard advised that she does not disagree with the introduction of a Visitor
Levy but she does not agree with the proposals as they are at the moment, adding that
she would be waiting to find out the consultation results before making a final decision.
Councillor MacQuire advised that he had a similar view as Councillor Howard, and that he
was not against the Levy due to the fact that there are similar taxes in other Countries but
would need to find out further information from the consultation before making a decision.
Peter Brown asked Councillor MacQuire what the Visitor Levy would mean for people from
Argyll and Bute visiting other places in Argyll and Bute.
Councillor MacQuire advised that if someone from America goes to New York they pay a
different rate of tax and that he would hope similar arrangements would be introduced in
Argyll and Bute. 
Question 2
Firstly, can the Chair commend LiveArgyll staff for their work in rejigging facilities in the
town to provide temporary accommodation for the gym and gym classes while the Leisure
Centre is closed?  Secondly, there is no update in today's agenda about the Leisure
Centre - can the Chair provide information on when the pool will be able to be opened?
The Chair commended LiveArgyll staff, advising that they have done a great job with the
temporary closure of the Helensburgh Leisure Centre. The Chair further advised that
having anticipated that a question may be raised in relation to the Leisure Centre, that he
had spoken with Officers managing the repairs who provided a statement to read out,
which read as:
The Council continues to recover and repair from Storm Eowyn which caused significant
damage to our communities and infrastructure across Argyll and Bute. 
Our highly popular Helensburgh Leisure Centre has been one of the most notable affected
buildings of the red weather event with around 50% of the roof being damaged.  The

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severity of the storm and immediate heavy rain has caused extensive water damage
inside the building that will require repair of its first floor and roof.   
Public safety is of paramount importance and a cordon around the building will remain in
place and under review whilst repair works are carried out.   
A waterproof membrane has been re-affixed to the building to prevent water ingress and
internal water capture systems have been put in place whilst steps to permanently repair
the roof are ongoing.   
At this stage, Officers cannot confirm a timescale for the full repair as it is dependent on
number of factors such as outcome of survey work, design, availability of materials and
labour.  
If there are opportunities to accelerate opening of the ground floor (pool/ changing village),
where there has been less damage, as an initial phase, then this will be explored. 
The Council team have also been working concurrently with Live Argyll to set up
temporary services at Helensburgh Library, Hermitage Park and Victoria Halls which are
now all operational. 
Officers are progressing the process of recovery as quickly as practicable and it is a
priority. The Council is also fully engaged with its insurer, loss adjuster and specialist
disaster recovery technical support.  
Angela Anderson, Plastic Free Helensburgh
Will the Committee agree that blocked gulleys are contributing to flooding during periods
of heavy rain, downpours and light prolonged rain and that by not dealing proactively the
impact on householders and business is likely to be higher than if the issues are dealt with
in a timely manner?
The Chair advised that he would ask Officers to provide a full response to the question
following the meeting and highlighted that the Council is currently going through
recruitment for a new Head of Roads and Infrastructure and advised that he is hoping that
following the appointment, that he and the Vice Chair would discuss issues relating to
Helensburgh, including gulleys and drainage with them. 
Vivien Dance
Question 1
Is the Chair aware that the Council has spent over £650,000 on enabling the Pierhead site
being available for a supermarket development and does he believe it is an appropriate
use of public funds?. I would like to ask members if they believe it is an appropriate use of
public funds when we have just been issued with a Council Tax increase of 9.9%.
The Chair advised that he was not aware of the figures quoted and advised that he would
refer the question to the Executive Director with responsibility for Financial Services and
provide a written response to Ms Dance at a later stage.

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Question 2
Councillor Kennedy stated at the last Community Council meeting that Helensburgh and
Lomond Councillors have been instructed by Council Officers to not comment on the
development of Helensburgh Seafront. As Chair could you confirm on behalf of the Area
Committee that this statement was factually accurate?
The Chair advised that he had sought advice from the Councils Legal Team around this
matter and confirmed that all elected members had been advised that as the matter was
sub-judice that they need to be careful in what they say around the development of
Helensburgh Seafront. 
Question 3
Given that under the law of this land, its nation and its associated democracy processors,
people of Helensburgh and Lomond elect, every 5 years, councillors to represent the
community in the ruling of the local council and play an important role in major decisions
which affect people’s lives. Councillors are elected to take executive decisions and
represent their ward by meeting residents and local interest groups in dealing with matters
that have a local impact. All those parts are quotes from the Local Government Act. This is
clearly now not happening here as members have taken advice and being advised to say
nothing. Can I ask the Committee if they are following this instruction and if so what is
your comments now about the deficit in the democratic process that exists in Helensburgh
and Lomond?
The Chair highlighted that Ms Dance had raised some important issues however he would
refrain from commenting on a legal matter.
Councillor Campbell-Sturgess advised that as a Councillor he abides by the Councillor
Code of Conduct which references the need to uphold the law as well as a duty to
represent constituents.
Councillor Kennedy advised that he is following the same advice as Councillor Campbell-
Sturgess and would not be commenting on the matter until it is over. Councillor Kennedy
further advised that due to being on the Planning, Protective Services and Licensing
Committee, he has to make decisions on applications and that if he was to comment on
the matter he would likely be unable to take part in the decision of any related application.
Dr Peter Brown, Helensburgh Community Council
Question 3
Having read this year’s budget, the administration motion opted to assign £2.9m to severe
weather costs and to borrow that exact amount, the oppositions defeated amendments did
not see the need to include this cost and the Councils original budget pack also excluded
it, simply noting that the severe weather risk is considered as part of the Councils  policy
on the level of general contingencies balance held in the un-allocated general fund
reserve.

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Why, a month after the Helensburgh Leisure Centre roof was blown off, did the
Administration think that £2.9m needed to be borrowed this year for severe weather
costs? 
The Chair advised that he would provide Mr Brown with a full response in writing having
first referred to the Executive Director with responsibility for Financial Services. 
5. POLICE SCOTLAND UPDATE 
Consideration was given to an update which provided information on the ongoing work of
the Service and information on serious and organised crime; acquisitive crime; road safety
and road crime; anti-social behaviour and violent crime; public protection; the work of the
Community Policing Team and the Youth Engagement Officer in Helensburgh and
Lomond; and Operation Ford.
Inspector Simonis further advised that the service are continuing to plan ahead with
summer action plans focusing on seasonal anti-social behaviour and road and water
safety.
Decision 
The Helensburgh and Lomond Area Committee noted the contents of the report. 
(Reference: Report by Inspector Bart Simonis, Police Scotland, dated March 2025,
submitted) 
6. PRIMARY AREA ATTAINMENT REPORT: HELENSBURGH AND LOMOND 
The Committee gave consideration to a report and a presentation which provided a range
of key information about primary school provision in the Helensburgh and Lomond area
during the school session June 2024 to January 2025 and reported the national collection
of attainment and achievement data from June 2024. 
Decision 
The Helensburgh and Lomond Area Committee: 
1. noted the information provided within the report and presentation; and 
2. congratulated the Education Department for the hard work and success referenced
within the report, extending a special congratulations to the Head Teachers who
presented the report.
(Reference: Report by Executive Director with responsibility for Education, dated March
2025, submitted) 
7. ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES UPDATE 
The Committee gave consideration to a report which provided links to the recent activities
of Roads and Infrastructure Services. 
Decision 
The Helensburgh and Lomond Area Committee noted the contents of the report.

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(Reference: Report by Executive Director with responsibility for Roads and Infrastructure
Services, dated February 2025, submitted) 
Councillor Iain Shonny Paterson left the meeting at this point. 
8. HOUSING SERVICES ACTIVITY UPDATE - STRATEGIC HOUSING
INVESTMENT PLAN (SHIP) - ANNUAL UPDATE 
Consideration was given to a report which provided an update on Housing Services
activity and the delivery of the Local Housing Strategy within the Helensburgh and
Lomond area. 
Decision 
The Helensburgh and Lomond Area Committee noted the contents of the report. 
(Reference: Report by Executive Director with responsibility for Development and
Economic Growth, dated January 2025, submitted)   
9. HELENSBURGH OUTDOOR MUSEUM - ARTS STRATEGY FUND
APPLICATION 
Consideration was given to report regarding an application received from the Helensburgh
Scout and Guide Trust for support from the Helensburgh Outdoor Museum Arts Strategy
Fund. 
Decision 
The Helensburgh and Lomond Area Committee agreed to award £1,000 from
Helensburgh Outdoor Museum Arts Strategy Fund to the Helensburgh Scout and Guide
Trust.
(Reference: Report by Executive Director with responsibility for Development and
Economic Growth, dated 22 January 2025, submitted) 
10. 2024/25 ACTIVE TRAVEL PROGRESS REPORT 
The Committee gave consideration to a report which provided an update on the progress
made in 2024/25 in relation to active travel projects in the Helensburgh and Lomond area,
and sought continued support for the projects from Members. 
Decision 
The Helensburgh and Lomond Area Committee: 
1. welcomed the progress made to date across a significant number of active travel
projects by the small Active Travel Team; 
2. supported the continuation of the projects and the submission of future funding
applications to external challenge funds to continue to develop design and construction
stages in order to deliver these projects;

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3. supported the allocation of the Tier 1 active travel funding element in the Council’s
25/26 block grant to the development and delivery of appropriate active travel projects,
including those already underway in Helensburgh and Lomond; 
4. welcomed the securing of 24/25 funding from Transport Scotland to construct the
350m section of cyclepath within Rosneath; and 
5. instructed Officers to continue to identify and develop new active travel projects to
benefit local residents, businesses and communities. 
(Reference: Report by Executive Director with responsibility for Development and
Economic Growth, dated 3 February 2025, submitted) 
11. HELENSBURGH, CARDROSS AND DUMBARTON CYCLEPATH
PROGRESS REPORT 
Consideration was given to a report updating Members on the progress made since the
Helensburgh and Lomond Area Committee on 10 September 2024 in relation to the
delivery of a dedicated, high quality walking and cycle route linking Helensburgh, Cardross
and Dumbarton. 
Decision 
The Helensburgh and Lomond Area Committee: 
1. welcomed, subject to securing external funding, the appointment of a new design team
to complete development of Phase 1 and Phase 2 designs through Developed Design
and Technical Design stages; 
2. instructed Officers, subject to securing external funding, to appoint a design team to
complete development of Phase 3 designs through Developed Design and Technical
Design stages; 
3. instructed Legal Services to utilise the Council’s statutory powers as necessary to
enforce access to private land for surveys required as part of the design process
where landowner permission is not forthcoming; 
4. agreed to work to identify potential sources of construction match funding, estimated to
require a minimum of £3M to complete the route; and 
5. instructed Roads and Infrastructure Service to adopt all sections of the Helensburgh –
Cardross – Dumbarton Cyclepath once constructed including those not contiguous
with an adopted road, and maintain as part of the Council Roads Asset Management
Plan (RAMP). 
(Reference: Report by Executive Director with responsibility for Development and
Economic Growth, dated 3 February 2025, submitted) 
12. AREA PERFORMANCE REPORT - FQ3 2024/25 
The Committee gave consideration to the Area Performance Report for financial quarter 3
of 2024/25 (October to December 2024) which illustrated the agreed performance
measures for this period.

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Decision 
The Helensburgh and Lomond Area Committee noted the performance and supporting
commentary as presented. 
(Reference: Report by Executive Director with responsibility for Customer Support
Services, dated 11 February 2025, submitted) 
13. DRAFT HELENSBURGH AND LOMOND AREA COMMITTEE WORKPLAN 
The Helensburgh and Lomond Area Committee workplan was before members for
information. 
Decision 
The Helensburgh and Lomond Area Committee noted the contents of the workplan. 
(Reference: Helensburgh and Lomond Area Committee workplan, dated 11 March 2025)