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Final Minute B&C 7 June 2022, 23/08/2022 Pre Agenda Briefing of the Bute & Cowal Area Committee

Argyll and Bute Council · 6 September 2022
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MINUTES of MEETING of BUTE AND COWAL AREA COMMITTEE held BY MICROSOFT TEAMS 
on TUESDAY, 7 JUNE 2022 
Present: Councillor Yvonne McNeilly (Chair) 
Councillor Gordon Blair
Councillor Daniel Hampsey
Councillor Reeni Kennedy-Boyle 
Councillor Ross Moreland
Councillor William Sinclair
Councillor Peter Wallace 
Attending: Stuart Mclean, Committee Manager
Mark Calder, Project Manager
Louise Lawson, Education Officer
Charlotte Craig, Business Improvement Manager, Argyll and Bute HSCP 
In the absence of the Chair, Councillor Liz McCabe, the Vice Chair, Councillor Yvonne
McNeilly, chaired the meeting. 
1. APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE 
Apologies for absence were received from Councillors Audrey Forrest and Liz McCabe. 
2. DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST 
There were no declarations of interest. 
3. MINUTES 
a) The Minute of the Bute and Cowal Area Committee held on 1 March 2022 was
approved as a correct record. 
b) The Minute of the Bute and Cowal Area Planning Group held on 19 April 2022 was
noted. 
4. PUBLIC QUESTION TIME 
Question from Liz Wren 
Liz Wren referred to Kilchattan Bay experiencing a lot of traffic in recent months with cars
parked nose to tail in the summer and children running across the road to the beach.  She
asked if the Area Committee would support the introduction of a 20 mph speed limit in
Kilchattan Bay and a 30 mph speed limit on the road from Kingarth to Kilchattan Bay
before there was a serious accident. 
Response from Committee 
The Committee Manager said that he had been advised by Roads colleagues that before
a change to speed limits could be implemented a speed volume survey would be required. 
It was confirmed that this area has been earmarked for a survey.  In February this year it
was 11th on the list of priorities and that it was now in 9th place on the outstanding list. 
Colleagues in Roads were waiting on a replacement battery for the survey equipment and
once this was received the programme of surveys would recommence.  The Committee

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Manager confirmed that as soon as he received any further update he would pass this on
to Liz and the Committee Members. 
Liz asked if there could be anyway of pushing that survey on a bit.  She commented that
when the 30 mph speed limit was introduced there was not the same volume of traffic as
there was nowadays. 
Councillor McNeilly advised that she was sure the Chair would be supportive of this and
gave an assurance that this survey would be undertaken as soon as possible and that the
community would be kept informed. 
Question from Finlay Martin 
Finlay Martin asked what the process would be for changing the speed limit from 30 mph
to 20 mph. 
Response from Committee Manager 
The Committee Manager advised that it would involve a Traffic Regulation Order (TRO)
which could be a lengthy process.  He agreed to arrange for the procedure undertaken to
be forwarded to Finlay for his information. 
Finlay advised that it was his understanding that the Scottish Government had plans to
bring all 30 mph roads down to 20 mph and that this was a policy hoped to be put in place
by 2025.  He said it was the long term intention to have all 30 mph roads with street lights
brought down to 20 mph.  He suggested that the Council should try to get ahead of the
game and push this policy forward. 
The Chair advised that any issues brought to the Committee’s attention were taken very
seriously.  She confirmed that the Committee Manager would come back separately with
information on the whole TRO process. 
Liz Wren commented that Angus Council had already implemented this 20 mph policy in
villages and built up areas.   
The Chair invited the Project Manager for Roads and Infrastructure Services to speak. 
The Project Manager referred to comments made about the introduction of 20 mph limits
across the area and advised that under the new Transport Act there were regulations and
provisions for blanket 20 mph zones but these were not in place yet.  He advised that
Scottish Borders Council were currently piloting a trial on this and would be reporting back
to the Society of Chief Officers for Transport in Scotland (SCOTS).  This feedback would
then be shared with all Heads of Roads in Scotland and would  inform any plans taken
forward. 
The Project Manager confirmed that contact would be made with colleagues in Angus
Council to find out about any pilot they may be undertaking. 
Councillor Kennedy-Boyle asked about the possibility of introducing a temporary TRO for
the Kilchattan Bay area.  The Project Manager confirmed that this may be possible but
before this could be introduced a traffic survey would have to be undertaken.  The Chair
confirmed that the Committee had already been advised that this area was 9th on the list
of traffic surveys still to be undertaken.

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Councillor Blair referred to Roads waiting on replacement batteries for the survey
equipment.  He asked if the Service could ensure a supply of batteries were kept in stock. 
Question from Isobel Strong 
Isobel Strong advised that she was Chair of the Ardencraig Gardens Friends Group and
that they were very disappointed that there had been no spring planting this year.  She
sought confirmation of the procurement process that had been undertaken in this respect. 
She then pointed out that 3,000 summer plants had just arrived in a single shipment and
due to the small number of staff they were not sure how they would be planted out.  She
advised that the plants that had arrived were smaller than what would have been grown at
Ardencraig.  She asked if the decision taken to not grow plants in Ardencraig and to buy
them in instead could be re-examined. 
Isobel commented that in front of Rothesay there were no flower beds and walking along
the promenade from Albert Pier to Glenburn Road the weeds were 3 foot high.  She also
advised that from the minutes of the last meeting it had been noted that the Victorian
toilets would be open, but visitors to the island last week found them closed.  She asked
for an update on this and also asked when the pontoons would be operational. 
The Chair referred to the decision taken about Ardencraig and advised that this was a
Council decision taken at the budget meeting. 
The Project Manager advised that an update on the pontoons and the Victorian toilets was
contained within the report that would be considered at item 6 on the Agenda for this
meeting.  He confirmed that he would take any issues or concerns raised back to the local
team. 
In terms of the spring and summer planting, the Project Manager confirmed that the
Council had tendered for spring and summer bedding plants and the market fed back that
they would be unable to deliver spring bedding plants.  He advised that at the time the
savings were proposed there was no indication that this would be the case but it seemed
that market forces had changed.  He referred to information about the tender process
previously being sent out to the Ardencraig Group and he agreed to forward that again via
the Committee Manager. 
Robert Macintyre commented that Isobel Strong had put forward viewpoints that were very
relevant.  He said that right now walking along Rothesay all you could see were bare beds
when a year ago there were beautiful flowers which people from all over Scotland came to
marvel at.  He advised that the summer bedding plants were just starting to be planted
now and the quality and size of the plants were poor compared to what had been grown
locally in the past.  He asked if the Council would revert back to the successful way the
flowers were turned out before. 
The Project Manager advised that every policy saving taken by the Council was reviewed
on an ongoing basis.  He confirmed that the quality of the plants in this instance would be
reviewed by the Council’s professional horticulturists and a report would be prepared for
consideration by Members. It was noted that this report would go before the Policy and
Resources Committee.  There was no timescale for this report but it was expected that it
would be prepared at the end of the summer season.

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Councillor Kennedy-Boyle asked what efforts were made to develop local supply chains. 
The Chair reminded Councillor Boyle that this was public question time and she asked the
Project Manager to respond direct to Councillor Kennedy-Boyle outwith the meeting. 
Question from Jean Moffat 
Jean asked to whom the report would go to.  She asked if it would go to every individual
Councillor regarding the outcome of the purchased bedding plants and if there would be
finances. 
Response from Project Manager/Committee Manager 
The Project Manager advised that every single policy saving was regularly reported on
and that is was his understanding it went to all Members.  The Committee Manager said
he believed that the report would be considered by the Policy and Resources Committee
and that the report would be published online 3 clear working days before consideration of
that report and that this report would be accessible to both elected Members and
members of the public.  The Project Manager advised that all aspects of policy savings
were reported on and in this case the quality of the plants and the outcome of that policy
saving would be considered. 
Councillor Blair asked if the Committee could make a formal request for this Committee to
receive a copy of the report before it went to the Policy and Resources Committee.  
The Chair advised that there was a process in place on how Committee reports were
issued.  She said that this would come out in the public domain before the Committee for
everyone to see.   The Project Manager advised that a clear and meaningful review would
not likely be done before the end of the summer and that the report would be prepared
after that time.  He advised that like other areas Bute and Cowal was experiencing issues
and, in particular, the area suffered from a relatively small field of contractors and with the
Council issuing contracts that tended to be smaller than other authorities they were a less
attractive customer.  Councillor Blair commented that this statement was an argument for
growing our own. 
5. AREA PERFORMANCE REPORT FQ4 2021/22 
A paper presenting the Area Scorecard for Financial Quarter 4 2021/22 (January to March
2022) which illustrated the agreed performance measures was considered. 
Decision 
The Committee:- 
1. noted and considered the performance and supporting commentary as presented. 
2. noted that upon receipt of the Quarterly Performance Report the Committee should
contact either the Responsible Named Officer or the Performance Improvement Officer
with any queries; 
3. noted that work was ongoing and that Members should respond to the Performance
Improvement Officer with requests or comments regarding the layout and format of the
Performance Report; and

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4. noted the proposal to include the additional Corporate Outcome Indicators within the
quarterly Area Committee report. 
(Reference: Report by Executive Director with responsibility for Customer Support
Services dated 9 May 2022, submitted) 
6. ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES UPDATE 
A report providing a general update on key activities of the Service over recent months
and highlighting works being undertaken which were of relevance to the Bute and Cowal
area was considered. 
For the benefit of the new Members of the Committee, the Project Manager also gave an
overview of the extensive remit, scope and responsibilities of the Service and the wide
range of work and strategic projects currently being undertaken across the whole Council
area. 
Decision 
The Committee noted and considered the contents of the report. 
(Reference: Report by Executive Director with responsibility for Roads and Infrastructure
Services dated May 2022, submitted) 
7. PRIMARY SCHOOL REPORT 2021-22 - BUTE AND COWAL 
A report providing a range of key information about school provision in the Bute and
Cowal area during the school session August 2021 to June 2022 along with the National
collection of attainment and achievement data from June 2021 was considered. 
Decision 
The Committee considered and noted the contents of the report. 
(Reference: Report by Executive Director with responsibility for Education, dated 7 June
2022, submitted) 
The Chair ruled, and the Committee agreed, to vary the order of business and take item 9
on the Agenda next. 
8. APPOINTMENTS TO OUTSIDE ORGANISATIONS 
A report asking the Committee to consider making appointments to a number of local
bodies/organisations within the Bute and Cowal area was considered. 
Decision 
The Committee agreed to make the following appointments: 
Organisation Elected Member 
Bute and Cowal Area Community  Councillor Liz McCabe

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Planning Group Councillor Yvonne McNeilly
Councillor Gordon Blair 
Bute and Cowal Locality Planning
Group 
Councillor Audrey Forrest – subject
to her acceptance. 
Cruach Mor Windfarm Trust  Councillor Gordon Blair 
Clachan Flats Windfarm Trust  Councillor William Sinclair 
Cowal Transport Forum  Councillor Daniel Hampsey (Chair)
Councillor William Sinclair to support
as required. 
Historic Kilmun/Argyll Mausoleum    Councillor Ross Moreland 
Benmore and Kilmun Community
Development Trust 
Councillor William Sinclair 
Rothesay Pavilion Charity  Councillor Liz McCabe – subject to
her acceptance. 
Gourock-Dunoon Infrastructure and
Vessels Project – Reference Group 
Councillor Ross Moreland 
Dunoon Community Development
Trust 
Councillor Audrey Forrest – subject
to her acceptance.  If not, Councillor
Ross Moreland. 
(Reference: Report by Executive Director with responsibility for Legal and Regulatory
Support dated 24 May 2022, submitted) 
Councillor Yvonne McNeilly advised that she would have to leave the meeting now to
attend another appointment. 
Councillor Gordon Blair chaired the meeting from this point. 
9. INTEGRATION JOINT BOARD PERFORMANCE REPORT (MAY 2022) 
A report providing the Committee with an update on the impact on service performance
and the progress made with regard to remobilising health and social care services in
Argyll and Bute up to 31 March 2022 was considered.

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Decision 
The Committee:- 
1. considered the Health and Social Care Partnership performance progress presented to
the Integration Joint Board on 25 May 2022 meeting regarding remobilisation of activity
in line with NHS Highland performance target for 2021/22 agreed with Scottish
Government to 70%-80% of 2019/20 activity as at November 2021; 
2. considered Waiting Times Performance and a further reduction in Consultant and
Nurse Led Outpatient breaches >12 weeks; 
3. noted performance with regards to both Argyll and Bute and Greater Glasgow and
Clyde current Treatment Time Guarantee for Inpatient/Day Case Waiting List and
activity; and 
4. noted Scottish Government’s advice on timescales for the publication of 2021/22
Annual Performance Report. 
(Reference: Report by Head of Strategic Planning, Performance and Technology, Argyll
and Bute HSCP dated 7 June 2022, submitted) 
10. CRUACH MOR AND CLACHAN FLATS WINDFARM TRUSTS (Pages 9 - 10) 
A report providing an update on the work undertaken by the wind farm trusts set up at
both Cruach Mhor (Glendaruel) and Clachan Flats (Cairndow) in accordance with
consented developments was before the Committee for information. 
The Committee Manager advised of an error in Appendix 1 of the report and that an
updated Appendix would be published with the Minute. 
Decision 
The Committee noted the contents of the report. 
(Reference: Report by Executive Director with responsibility for Legal and Regulatory
Support dated May 2022, submitted) 
11. DRAFT BUTE AND COWAL AREA COMMITTEE WORKPLAN 
The draft Bute and Cowal Area Committee Workplan was before Members for information. 
Decision 
The Committee noted the contents of the Workplan. 
(Reference: Draft Bute and Cowal Area Committee Workplan dated 7 June 2022,
submitted) 
12. LAMONT BEQUEST AWARD RECOMMENDATIONS

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A report providing information regarding two applications that had been received for
support from the Lamont Bequest was considered. 
Decision 
The Committee agreed to award £100 to the two family applicants who met the criteria for
support from the Lamont Bequest. 
(Reference: Report by Executive Director with responsibility for Legal and Regulatory
Support dated May 2022, submitted)