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Argyll and Bute Council
Scrutiny Report
March 2022
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Community Asset Transfer

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Contents 
1. Executive Summary .............................................................................................................. 3
Introduction................................................................................................................................. 3
Objectives.................................................................................................................................... 3
Background.................................................................................................................................. 3
Scrutiny Initiation Briefing – 13 August 2021 ................................................................................. 4
2. Scrutiny Meetings ................................................................................................................. 5
Scrutiny Meeting One – Council Officers – 05 October 2021 .......................................................... 5
Scrutiny Meeting Two – Audit Scotland – 18 November 2021 ........................................................ 9
3. Overall Conclusion and Findings .......................................................................................... 11 
Contact Details 
Chair: Martin Caldwell (Chair of Audit and Scrutiny Committee)
Interim Chief Internal Auditor: Moira Weatherstone (moira.weatherstone@argyll-bute.gov.uk)
www.argyll-bute.gov.uk

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1. Executive Summary
Introduction
1. As part of Argyll and Bute Council’s (the Council) 2021/22 scrutiny plan, approved by the Audit &
Scrutiny Committee (the Committee) in June 2021, we have undertaken a scrutiny review of the
Council’s Community Asset Transfer process. 
2. Throughout this report references to ‘the Panel’ refers to the chair of the Committee and two
Committee members who conducted this review. They were:
 Martin Caldwell (Panel Chair)
 Councillor Trail 
 Councillor McGrigor 
3. The Panel was supported by council officers and relevant external parties who gave willingly of
their time to help deliver the review. We would like to extend our appreciation for the
cooperation and assistance received from all witnesses invited to provide evidence over the
course of the review.
Objectives
4. The agreed objectives of the scrutiny review were to:
 ensure the Council’s guidance is consistent with legislation and national guidance
 ensure the Council’s process is supportive to community transfer bodies
 ensure there is adequate engagement with community groups to assess feedback
 ensure that the action plan from Audit Scotland’s Best Value Assurance Report is being
progressed.
Background
5. The Council’s Best Value (BV) report issued by the Accounts Commission in May 2020 stated that
community focus groups highlighted that:
There is ‘a perception that the Council’s current asset transfer process is complex and does not
fully support community empowerment to allow community groups to progress transfer
requests without significant support.’
and recommended that:
‘The council should work with communities and community groups to understand and address
their concerns in respect of the current asset transfer arrangements.’
In response to the BV report the Council have implemented a BV Action Plan with one of the
actions being to ‘Review and simplify the community asset transfer process’.
6. Part 5 of the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Act 2015 (The Act), sets out the key rights
and duties for community transfer bodies and relevant authorities and provides a framework for
the asset transfer process.
7. Historically, asset transfer was only available for land or buildings which a public authority has
decided to dispose of, and has decided is suitable for community use.  The Act puts more power

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in the hands of communities by allowing them to request whatever publicly held property they
believe will be most suitable to deliver their objectives.  Therefore community transfer bodies
who meet the qualifying criterial can make applications to relevant authorities to acquire land
and property which is not listed for sale.
8. The Act requires each relevant authority to establish, maintain and make available a register of
land which it owns or leases to the best of its knowledge and belief.  This register is available to
view within an area of the Council’s website dedicated to community asset transfers along with
links to other relevant guidance and tools.
9. The Council has developed an “expression of interest” process which seeks to resolve
community requests as simply as possible out with the statutory Asset Transfer process and runs
parallel with the Asset Transfer process.   This process assists community transfer bodies wishing
to investigate the possibility of developing a full asset transfer request or other alternative
means of managing community assets.  A transfer request can be for ownership, lease or other
rights.
10. As at 30 June 2021, the Council reported to Scottish Government that it had received 70
expressions of interest since January 2017.  Of these:
 14 are active
 53 have been resolved or withdrawn
 3 developed into asset transfer requests, one of which was successful and two refused. 
11. The Council’s Social Enterprise Development Officer is the single point of contact to provide
assistance to community transfer bodies.  There is an internal process guide to ensure consistent
evaluation of expressions of interest and asset transfer requests received.
12. The Council’s Asset Transfer Group consists of representatives across various council services. 
The group meets monthly to review progress with expressions of interest and asset transfer
requests, review the Best Value Assurance Report action plan and the published asset register
and consider any other relevant business.
13. The Community Asset Transfer process was approved for inclusion in our scrutiny plan for
2021/22 at the meeting of the Council’s Audit and Scrutiny Committee on 15 June 2021.  
Scrutiny Initiation Briefing – 13 August 2021
14. In August 2021 scrutiny officers circulated a briefing paper to the Panel which provided
background on the community asset transfer process.  The Panel met to agree the scope and
identify invitees to give evidence at a series of meetings.   
15. The agreed scope was to consider whether the community asset transfer process:
 complies with relevant legislation and guidance
 supports community transfer bodies through the expression of interest and asset
transfer process
 uses feedback from community transfer bodies to inform improvement actions that will
address the findings of the Best Value Report. 
16. The Panel agreed that they should meet with appropriate representatives of the groups set out
in Exhibit 1.

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Exhibit 1 – Scrutiny Meetings
Group Key Areas for Discussion
Council
Officer(s)
 Council compliance with legislation and national guidance.
 How the expression of interest pre-application stage assists
community transfer bodies prepare for a full asset transfer request.
 How an asset transfer request is assessed.
 How representation at review panels is decided.
 Whether feedback from community groups is used to inform
improvement actions.
 Progress in addressing the action plan from the Audit Scotland Best
Value Assurance Report.
Audit
Scotland
(author of
Best Value
Assurance
Report) 
 Whether guidance published by the Council is considered compliant
with statutory requirements.
 Whether community transfer bodies can easily access information
and support from Council officers.
 Whether sufficient feedback had been sought from community
transfer bodies to inform the Best Value Assurance Report.
 What specific areas/issues were highlighted as being complex through
feedback received from community transfer bodies.
2. Scrutiny Meetings 
Scrutiny Meeting One – Council Officers – 05 October 2021
17. The first scrutiny meeting consisted of the Council’s Social Enterprise Development Officer, who
is the single point of contact for community groups and supports the Community Asset Transfer
request process and the Estates and Property Development Manager who deals with any
property related matters for the Council and chairs the Asset Transfer Group.  The key messages
reflecting the views of the Council officers who attended, from this meeting are set out in Exhibit
2.
Exhibit 2 – Scrutiny Meeting 1 – Council Officers - Key Messages 
Theme  Detail 
Scottish
Government
and Council
Guidance 
Scottish Government provides two guidance notes, the “Community
Empowerment (Scotland) Act 2015: community transfer bodies’ guidance”
and a 16 page summary guide both of which have been written with
communities in mind.  Council officers have selected key sections from this
guidance to further simplify and publish on the Council’s website for public
use.  General feedback from events and talks is that the webpages are very
helpful.  However, Audit Scotland stated in the Best Value report that
“feedback from Community Groups highlights a perception that the
Council’s current Asset Transfer process is complex and does not fully
support community empowerment”. 
The Council’s Legal Services have been fully involved throughout the
community asset transfer process development and there is a high level of
confidence that the Council fully complies with Scottish Government
guidance and legislation.

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The Council’s website contains all of the statutory elements that are
required to be published, including additional links to further guidance and
resources.  
There is information exchange with other Councils, this enables learning
from each other and evaluation of how the process is managed at other
Councils whilst meeting the statutory requirements.  The legislation is still
relatively new and Council processes are evolving. 
An Asset Transfer Request must be in writing but it is not necessary to use
the form provided by the Council.  Community transfer bodies are
encouraged to use the expression of interest process, this allows the
Council to provide support and information on what may be the best
approach to meet the communities need. 
The value of assets involved tend to be low and there has not been a
request close to the State Aid barrier to date, there is unlikely to be any
significant impact following the change to Subsidy Control which currently
has a threshold of approximately £335,000 over the current and two
previous years.   
Expression of
Interest (EOI)
The EOI process is not a requirement of the Act but is a recommendation in
the Scottish Government Guidelines, many other Councils offer similar
support.  It is not a pre-application stage to a formal asset transfer request
(ATR), it is an option groups can choose to use to investigate their idea
further without necessarily requiring a formal ATR as other solutions to
address their needs are often identified thus negating the need to submit a
formal ATR.   
Every EOI is different, some are easy to quantify but some are vague in
terms of their request or identified outcome, however the Council tries to
help groups find a solution or clarify what outcome the community is
looking for.  The EOI process guides the groups towards the best way to
achieve their objectives without necessarily resulting in a formal ATR.  In
addition the process helps groups understand the full extent of their
interest and the associated operational requirements should they wish to
progress.  If what a group is suggesting seems unrealistic they receive
feedback and suggestions for improvement, this allows the group to make a
more informed decision of whether they wish to proceed, seek alternative
solutions or withdraw from the process.   
EOI forms gather initial high level information. Part of the assessment
process looks at ongoing capacity within the group and resilience to
continue to manage or develop services with the asset for the benefit for
the wider community.   
EOIs are not rejected, the final decision is made by the group on whether to
take the request forward, however, a positive outcome is supported
wherever possible. It can be difficult to measure whether an EOI remains
active or not as groups are often slow to respond and therefore unsure if
they have decided whether to continue or not.

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The annual Scottish Government return identifies how many EOIs have
been received, how many have progressed to full ATR and how many have
resulted in an alternative positive outcome.  These statistics show that very
few EOIs progress to formal ATR, however this is not necessarily a negative
result as positive outcomes are often achieved by other means.  At present
the Council do not capture information in relation to the final outcome
where a full ATR is not achieved.   
General support and information regarding funding opportunities is offered
to any group qualifying as a community transfer body (CTB).  Groups that
do not qualify as a CTB are also supported although they would not be
entitled to use the formal legislation.  Groups are also directed to other
Council services such as Business Gateway and partner agencies such as
Just Enterprise for further/specialist advice and support. 
The Council does not provide financial support to groups to progress their
EOI or ATR, however they do facilitate a joint valuation of the property
concerned.  Officers will advise of other funding sources and available
assistance e.g. Business gateway will with the preparation of a business
plan. 
Asset Transfer
Request
Community Asset Transfer information provided on the Council’s webpage
is based on the legislation to ensure compliance with the Act.   
The Community Empowerment Act is about empowering communities
voices to be heard, their requests listened to and considered.   It does not
provide a guarantee that a request will be approved but it does give them
certain rights to be heard and not dismissed. 
Community groups can submit a request for assets which are currently in
use by the Council, there is no requirement for the asset to be identified as
being a surplus asset, however, this could possibly make their request a bit
more challenging. 
An ATR can be submitted at any time by a CTB and it is their decision
whether or not to take forward.  Council Officers will provide support and
advice in order to ensure that any ATR application submitted by a CTB is as
strong as possible to provide the best chance of succeeding. If the CTB can
then alleviate some of the concerns at the outset this gives them a stronger
more robust ATR going forward.   
Formal ATRs are concluded when a decision has been reached or an appeal
has been heard.  If unsuccessful, officers will continue to engage with the
groups to find an alternative positive outcome for their request.   
Financial and Legal Services are represented on the Asset Transfer Group
(ATG).  They will assess their relevant areas within the application and if
required will request further information depending on the scale of the
asset the CTB are looking to take over.  An updated matrix is used for
evaluation of all ATRs.

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Review Panels Members of the Policy and Resources Committee are responsible for
determining how to run review panels. A review panel can be a complete
review, an open public meeting or review of additional information
provided by council officers or the CTB.   The ATG will provide an asset re-
evaluation report to help guide decision making. 
Each case is reviewed and considered on its individual merit rather than
taking a consistent approach.   
Both review panels held were conducted as a desk-top exercise with
additional information presented, there was no representative from the
CTBs present at either review panel. 
Feedback From
Community
Groups
There has been no customer survey for ATR or EOI’s undertaken to date,
however, feedback received at courses or events for communities has been
positive.   
Some changes have been identified and these are reviewed by the legal
team prior to publishing to ensure ongoing compliance with the Act. 
Specific changes are being made following the BV3 comments to aid
community engagement and understanding. 
Officers have attended and contributed at training, events and
consultations organised by Community Ownership and Support Service
(COSS, a subsidiary branch of the Development Trust Association that is
funded directly from Scottish Government to support communities and LAs
in delivering asset transfers).  Council officers also review websites of other
Councils to benchmark our information provision and processes with other
Local authorities, we have similar processes to others but also do some
things that others don’t. 
Officers attended a national event for local authorities to review the
process and feed into a review of the Act, a similar event is planned for
community groups to get wider feedback.  It is thought that a paper will be
produced at the end of the current parliament covering any required
updates or changes to the Act. 
Best Value
Assurance
Report Action
Plan and
Progress
Positive feedback has been received from groups regarding the information
available on the Council’s website.  The web pages have been updated in
light of the BV3 report with a focus on the EOI pages to simplify the
language used and remove some of the technical information, replacing it
with links to provide further information or clarity as required.   This is a
recent change and there has been no feedback to date. 
The EOI is a supportive tool for groups to use that enables them to decide
whether they wish to proceed to a full ATR or not.  The panel meeting has
provided a very different view to what is recorded in the Audit Scotland BV3
report. 
Promotion of
Asset Transfers
The BV3 report requires the Council to promote asset transfers, this has
been taken on board. One specific area that the Council has focussed on is

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that they are actively looking at ways to try and promote toilets that are at
risk of closure and how groups can work in partnership with the Council to
take responsibility for this asset. Similar opportunities will start to appear
on the Council’s webpages as they arise. 
Surplus Assets are marketed commercially by the Estates service to obtain
best value for them.  The details are published on the Council’s website to
allow community groups the opportunity to view and form their proposals
should they wish to apply for an ATR.  However, the focus of the Act is on
the community need rather than the property.
Other relevant
information
Legislation requires officers to respond within a fixed period of time, if
there were more than 2 or 3 ATRs in a year the service would struggle to
resource this.  Around one third of the Social Enterprise Officer’s time is
spent on EOIs and supporting groups to progress enquiries.   
The Council provide limited time monitoring completed ATR’s as all
responsibility is transferred with the asset.  If another option is taken
forward using a joint approach, the Council can provide guidance and
support to the group.
Scrutiny Meeting Two – Audit Scotland – 18 November 2021
18. The second scrutiny meeting consisted of representatives from Audit Scotland, this included the
Audit Director and two Senior Audit Managers.  The key messages from this meeting, reflecting
the views of Audit Scotland, are set out in Exhibit 3. 
Exhibit 3 – Scrutiny Meeting 2 – Audit Scotland - Key Messages 
Theme  Detail 
Scottish
Government
Guidance
Observations made by the panel regarding the complexity of government
guidance are well made, however, this is often the nature of guidance
documents.  Unfortunately, community groups often do not have the
capacity or time to deal with complex guidance. 
The Government return could include more information regarding
positive outcomes that have not resulted in a full community asset
transfer.   
Argyll and Bute
Council
Guidance and
Procedures
The BV3 report recognised that there is guidance in place but that it may
be over burdensome and could be streamlined.   
The Council has taken Audit Scotland’s comments on board and is
engaging with communities to make the whole process more straight
forward.  The Council aims to simplify the guidelines for community
groups by either slimming down the guidance further, changing it or
producing something that runs alongside it to make it easier for people to
work with. 
The guidance has to be provided for transparency reasons but this can be
off-putting for community groups.   Incorporating the guidance into the
process and early engagement between the Council and community
groups is therefore of utmost importance.  This helps to establish what
the community group are looking to achieve and then progress the

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requirement in meaningful segments using the officer’s technical
expertise to support the group through the process. 
Feedback from
Community
Groups used to
inform Argyll
and Bute
Council’s Best
Value
Assurance
Report
The BV3 report was cleared with SMT to agree factual accuracy prior to
publishing.   
One of the elements of the BV3 report was to look at how the Council
engages with the community, how active it is in promoting community
engagement and what the perceptions are from the community in terms
of the level of engagement.  It was not intended to look specifically at
community asset transfers.   
There was no survey used as part of the BV3 audit, the work involved
meeting with a number of community groups or their representatives
drawn from across Argyll and Bute area with a mix of island and mainland
based groups to gain an understanding of how they perceived community
engagement.  There is no definitive data available to share with the
Council. 
One of the themes to emerge was that of mixed feelings regarding the
Community Asset Transfer process and this was documented in the
report as a perception as the asset transfer process had not been audited. 
The purpose of the report content was to reflect back to the Council for
consideration on how to move forward and better understand why the
community groups were of this opinion. 
Audit Scotland acknowledged that there may be an element of bias in the
perception depending on the results of applications or enquiries made by
the groups that were consulted.   
As well as the feedback from communities there is corroborative
feedback from some of the elected members where they were aware of
communities enabled to engage with the Council and take forward
community asset transfers. 
Audit Scotland did not look at the Council’s website in any great detail
when preparing the BV3 report. 
The website is due to promote assets for community participation in 2022
on a trial basis as part of the improvement actions. 
It would be beneficial to request feedback from community groups on
how clear and easy it is to access and navigate the website to make it as
user-friendly as possible and achieve a positive outcome.   
It would also be beneficial to indicate that a community asset transfer is
not the only option and there are other solutions that may be more
appropriate.  Some solutions may involve further partnership working
between community groups where more than one community group is
interested in a property e.g. library within a café.

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Other
observations/
comments
Audit Scotland acknowledged that not all applications for community
asset transfers come to fruition and that was fundamental,
demonstrating the complexity of the process and also because
community asset transfer is not necessarily the best outcome as a better
solution might present itself as noted above in the Scottish Government
guidance detail of Exhibit 3.   
The Council should reflect on the support provided to community groups
considering community asset transfer and establish whether they are
comfortable with the level provided and whether it is considered to be a
partnership approach or client and customer relationship dealt with at
arms-length.   
The Council could benefit from discussing and comparing processes with
Glasgow City Council in terms of how they have set up their processes,
their arrangements and their team to deal with not just community asset
transfers but more about finding the right solution and working with
community groups in terms of some of the challenges.  
3. Overall Conclusion and Findings 
19. Based on the information obtained over the course of the review the Panel has concluded that:
 the Community Asset Transfer process is compliant with statutory requirements
 the process enables opportunity for engagement with community transfer bodies
 the process is supportive to community transfer bodies and communities 
20. The review has identified eight findings which have been discussed with management. These,
and the management responses, are detailed in Exhibit 4.
Exhibit 4 – Findings
No. Recommendations Management Response
1 The legislation is still relatively new and
processes are evolving.  Some variations in
processes exist between Councils due to
interpretation of the legislation. 
Information exchange takes place with
other Councils for learning and evaluation
purposes however Audit Scotland suggests
communicating directly with Glasgow City
Council to learn from some of the
challenges they have overcome.
COSS have established a Quarterly Forum
“RA Quarterly Group” which
representatives of the Asset Transfer
Group plan to attend. This will give the
opportunity to learn from other councils
and discuss how others resolve any issues.
Next meeting 7th March 2022. 
2 The annual Scottish Government return
identifies how many EOIs have been
received and how many asset transfers
have been received.  These statistics show
that very few EOIs progress to formal ATR,
however this is not necessarily a negative
result as positive outcomes are often
achieved by other means.  There is no
Data is collected on numbers with notes of
resolution.  Work is ongoing to develop
quarterly highlight reports that give
further detail of outcomes. The follow up
outcomes of assets previously transferred
will be added on a periodic basis to the
quarterly reporting.

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No. Recommendations Management Response
data capture of all outcomes and the
degree of resolution achieved, therefore,
a method or format should be created to
identify the outcomes secured.
3 An EOI is not a pre-application stage to a
formal asset transfer request (ATR), it is an
option that groups can choose to explore
their idea further without necessarily
requiring a formal ATR.  Other solutions
often present themselves that will address
the needs of the group thus negating the
need to submit a formal ATR.   The
information provided on EOI does not
make this explicit on the website.
Actions have been taken to clarify the
processes and the options available.  We
have clarified our descriptions of the
processes and try to be consistent in our
use of language when discussing /
describing the processes on offer. 
4 Review panels were held for two rejected
ATRs, these were conducted as a desk-top
exercise with additional information
presented to support the appeal.  There
was no representative from the CTBs
present at either review panel.  The
option of a default presence of CTBs
should be investigated.
Currently this is a decision that sits with
the Policy and Resources sub group.  They
decide on the format of the review and
can request participation from the group if
this was considered to assist with the
process.
5 No customer surveys have been
undertaken to date, however, feedback is
received when attending courses and
events and this has been positive.  More
in-depth feedback from community
groups should be considered, it may be
useful to approach COSS to obtain advice
on how to structure such feedback.
The Communities and Partnership Team
(CPT) have been working with COSS to
deliver some introductory training
courses.  The Scottish Government and
COSS have been undertaking community
consultation. We will review the feedback
from this and then consider what further
consultation is needed and add this to the
CPT training programs.
6 The Council is actively looking at ways to
promote asset transfers, toilet facilities in
particular with other opportunities to
follow as they arise.
This action is being developed and with
the approval of the Asset Transfer Group
will be implemented in 22/23. 
7 The BV3 report recognised that Council
guidance is in place but that it may be
over burdensome and could be
streamlined as community groups often
do not have the capacity, time or
capability to deal with complex guidance. 
Audit Scotland did not review the
Council’s website in any great detail
during their review, however, the web
pages have been updated as a result of
the BV3 report with a focus to simplify the
EOI pages, and there has been no
feedback to date. 
Action noted and will be raised at 
COSS events along with regular catch up
meetings with COSS representatives.

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No. Recommendations Management Response
The Council’s guidance is based on
complex guidance issued by Scottish
Government and therefore may deter
groups from applying.  Council officers
should consider raising the issue with the
COSS group with a view to submitting a
collective request to Scottish Government
to review and potentially simplify the
guidance.
8 It would be beneficial to indicate that a
community asset transfer is not the only
opportunity available to CTBs as there are
other solutions that may be more
appropriate.  Some solutions may involve
further partnership working between CTBs
where more than one CTB is interested in
a property e.g. library within a café.  This
type of solution should be added to the
information available on the Council’s
website.
This information has been added to the
website.  We will continue to monitor and
look for ways to highlight further
opportunities as we develop these
resources.