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Argyll and Bute Council · 27 March 2023
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MINUTES of MEETING of ARGYLL AND BUTE LOCAL REVIEW BODY held in ANNEX 1 OF THE
TEMPLETON BUILDING, HELENSBURGH 
on MONDAY, 27 MARCH 2023 
Present: Councillor Kieron Green (Chair) 
Councillor Audrey Forrest  Councillor Amanda Hampsey 
Attending: Iain Jackson, Risk and Safety Manager (Adviser)
Lynsey Innis, Senior Committee Assistant (Minutes) 
1. APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE 
There were no apologies for absence. 
2. DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST 
There were no declarations of interest intimated. 
3. CONSIDER NOTICE OF REVIEW REQUEST: VARIATION TO A CONDITION
RELATIVE TO PLANNING PERMISSION REFERENCE 20/00267/PP AT LAND
SOUTH OF HIGH OAKS, ARTARMAN ROAD, RHU, HELENSBURGH -
PREVIOUSLY ISSUED PAPERWORK 
The Chair, Councillor Green, welcomed everyone to the meeting.  He explained that no
person present would be entitled to speak other than the Members of the Local Review
Body (LRB) and Mr Jackson, who would provide procedural advice if required. 
He advised that his first task would be to establish if the Members of the LRB felt that they
had sufficient information before them to come to a decision on the Review. 
Councillor Forrest advised that she had sufficient information to come to a decision on the
Review, having had the opportunity to view the development in context of the surrounding
area specifically in relation to the visibility issues (Note of Site Visit attached as Appendix). 
She advised that she intended to move a Motion, as she believed that it would be possible
to approve the Review.   
Councillor Hampsey echoed the comments made by Councillor Forrest and advised that
she too had a better understanding of the information presented to the Local Review Body
following the site visit.   
The Chair, Councillor Green advised that this was his second visit to the site and that he
had welcomed the opportunity to revisit some of the points observed on the last occasion.   
Based on the low volume and speed of vehicles travelling on the road and her belief that
the reduction of the sight visibility figure from 25 metres to 17 metres would make little
difference to the road safety concerns at this location.  Councillor Forrest moved that
consideration of this Review be continued to allow time for her to seek advice on a
competent motion to approve.  This was seconded by Councillor Hampsey.

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Councillor Green sought confirmation from Mr Jackson that the Members could move for
continuation of this meeting. 
Mr Jackson confirmed that it was competent to request a continuation to allow time to
seek advice on a competent motion.   
Decision 
The Argyll and Bute Local Review Body agreed by a majority to continue consideration of
this application to enable Councillor Forrest to seek advice on a competent Motion to
approve the application. 
(Reference:  Notice of Review and Supporting Information, comments from Interested
Parties and further comments from Applicant, submitted)

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Appendix 1 
ARGYLL AND BUTE LOCAL REVIEW BODY 
NOTE OF MEETING OF SITE INSPECTION RE CASE 22/0001/LRB
LAND SOUTH OF HIGH OAKS, ARTARMAN ROAD, RHU, HELENSBURGH
MONDAY 27 MARCH 2023 
In attendance: Councillor Kieron Green, Argyll and Bute LRB (Chair)   
Councillor Amanda Hampsey, Argyll and Bute LRB   
Councillor Audrey Forrest, Argyll and Bute LRB
Iain Jackson, Governance, Risk and Safety Manager (Adviser)
Lynsey Innis, Senior Committee Assistant (Minutes)
Alan Ferguson, Applicant’s Agent
Polly Dunlop, Applicant
Allan Murray, on behalf of Applicant
George Freeman, Interested Party
Emma Jane, Planning Officer
Howard Young, Area Team Leader, Planning Authority
Donna Lawson, Traffic and Development Officer 
Raymond Kane, Traffic and Development Officer 
The Argyll and Bute Local Review Body agreed on 27 March 2023 to conduct a site
inspection in order to view the development site in context of the surrounding area. 
The Local Review Body convened at 1.30pm on 27 March 2023 at Land South of High
Oaks, Artarman Road, Rhu, Helensburgh.  The Chair welcomed everyone to the site
inspection and introductions were made. 
Councillor Forrest asked the Traffic and Development Officer to demonstrate how the
sight visibility figures for this application had been arrived at, and whether it would be
possible for the figure of 25 to be reduced to 17, and still be within the guidance.   
The Traffic and Development Officer outlined the visibility requirements, as outlined in the
Roads Guidance for Developers, dated 28 October 2008, and advised that leeway had
already been given to this application as a result of a previous site visit, based on the low
volume and speed of vehicles travelling on the road, with the sight visibility figure reduced
to 25 metres in both directions from the access.   
Ms Lawson used equipment to further demonstrate the measurements involved and
outlined the difficulties posed by the bend in the road to the north of the access point.   
Discussion took place on the possibility of reducing the size of the hedge that ran along
the edge of the road and taking it back to the fence that appeared to be the boundary of
the neighbouring property, with it being noted that due to the height of the hedge within
the boundary of the neighbouring property it would make no difference to the visibility
requirements of this application.

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Further discussion took place in relation to the status of the road and the possibility of
introducing traffic calming measures or a reduction in the speed limit with it being noted
that Roads and Infrastructure Services would not be in a position to support such
measures, as there were currently no road safety concerns and the local authority are
unable to recognise a 10mph speed limit, but that it would be possible for a private
landowner to make application to the Scottish Government in this regard.   
Having established that Members had no further questions, the Chair thanked all in
attendance for their input.   
This concluded the site visit.