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LCC minutes 090323

Argyll and Bute Council · 15 November 2023
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LISMORE COMMUNITY COUNCIL
Minutes of the meeting held on 9th March 2023 at Lismore Public Hall 
Present 
Archie MacGillivray (AM) Convener, Mandie Currie (MC) Secretary, Donald Mc Coll (DM), Clare
Howarth (CH), Mark Willis (MW) 
Attending
Cllr Luna Martin (LM) A&B Council and Rosemary Barry (RB) note taker. 
Three members of the public. 
1. Apologies
Cllr Kieron Green A&B Council 
2. Declarations of interest
DM declared an interest in agenda item 7 – ferries (work role). 
3. Minutes of meeting of 26.01.23
There was a query concerning the declarations of interests.  MC explained that LCC had adopted
the A&B terms of interest at its inaugural meeting and that LCC would consider the need to review
the matter.  She emphasised that although members of the public could make comments on the
minutes and on agenda items, and this could be noted, CC members made decisions on the
issues raised. The minutes were proposed by MW and seconded by AM. 
4. Matters arising
There were no matters arising not covered on the agenda. 
5. Scottish Government reaching 100% Broadband
Scottish Government (SG) had been in touch regarding a community meeting with SG and BT
Openreach on Wednesday 29th March. SG are keen to improve community engagement on the
programme, with more communication with communities and more information made available
about the project. Concerns have been raised by community members about some sections of line
that will be left unburied where there are still existing poles. The response from SG so far has been
that State Aid rules dictate that existing infrastructure must be used, so the fibre will be buried
where the existing line is buried. There was a query about the remaining poles that are not in use
and MC replied that this was a question that could be asked at the meeting. Further concerns have
been raised about digging on private ground without permission. 
6. Health and Social Care
CH reported that there was no responsibility for A&B to provide care if people wanted to move to
directly employed care.  All responsibility therefore rests with the cared-for person or their relatives
etc. She had raised this at the Social Services meeting that she had attended and also the risks of
lack of training and police checks.  LM mentioned that it was possible to change options.  CH
mentioned with respect to this, the difficulty of obtaining night care.  LM queried whether the carers
were registered as this could be done easily on line.  CH replied that there were carers who had
been registered before.  LH explained that if anyone was left without care then A&B could be
responsible. MC concluded that it needed to be made clear that the LCC had looked at this and
that good practice would involve a PVG disclosure and relevant training but that the LCC has no
responsibility or powers in these matters.    CH mentioned that there was a training session coming
up in April which she anticipated being free. Action –  Importance of Health and Safety and
Well-being to be highlighted in the minutes 
7. Ferries
MC had written to the Calmac Chief Executive regarding alternative sailings when there were tidal
restrictions and the issue of carriage of fuel tankers during darkness hours; also enquiring about
improvements to the Oban slip but she was waiting for a reply.  She explained that she had copied
her letter to our MSP, MP and relevant local Councillors. Julian Wormleighton (JW) reiterated that

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he had been assured by Calmac that improvements to the vessel running lights, to allow carriage
of fuel tankers in darkness, would be done.   
There was a query about the problems with the north end ferry.  CH queried the cost of the
temporary replacement and the problems for those with disabilities and she described a difficult
situation with trying to get a patient off the island by stretcher.   
8. Boreholes
Robert Smith is now doing the necessary site checks, with MW and AM assisting.  MC said that
she had copies of the necessary disclaimer forms. There was a query about the Church being on a
reserve list for a borehole. MC replied that someone from the Church could fill in a form concerning
this but that the Council Roads Dept might have concerns if a borehole was too close to the road. 
Sebastian Tombs (ST) agreed to pursue completion of a form. 
9. Church and Graveyard
MC explained that she was still preparing the report on the latest consultation and the next steps
for the future of the Church.  
MC also reported the Council were still talking to the Church of Scotland about the graveyard
extension and there was still a need for soil for backfilling. 
10. Planning Applications
MC gave an update on the fish farm scoping exercise which had now finished. If a planning
application was submitted then LCC would make comments.  She had not spoken to Appin as yet
but would do so if the need arose.
There was a query about the consideration of the planning application described at the last
meeting.  It was made clear that as the meeting was no longer quorate, no discussion took place at
the meeting other than to outline the application. CH, MW and DM considered the matter outwith
the meeting and a letter was sent in support of the proposal. LM said that for future reference,
she would check the requirements for community councillors who had declared an interest
to leave the meeting while discussions on the item took place.   
11. LCT funding
MC explained that there had been an agreement to fund meeting costs for a defined period that
had now lapsed. As agreed in previous LCC meetings, there is a need to review various upcoming
spend commitments before any decision could be made on further funding for LCT but it had been
agreed that the item would be retained on the agenda for future consideration. The LCT
representative present stated that there had been a request for the CC to fund the hall hire costs
for 10 meetings each year. MC replied that the agreement was for a year but that it would be kept
on the agenda and looked at again when there was a clearer idea of the demands to be made on
LCC funds. DM stated that the General Fund covered general LCC expenses such as secretarial
costs, hall hire and the minutes. 
12. Resilience/Emergency Plans
MC explained that there was a need for a separate meeting to discuss this.  She suggested a date
in early May before the next LCC meeting. MC to put a notice on the island Facebook page to
advertise this. 
13. New Correspondence
Bute Community Council has emailed all CCs concerning the lack of community engagement by
A&B Council within the Budget planning process, with a request to send a joint letter. This had
been taken up by Luing CC and MC asked if LCC wanted to be involved in this.  There was a
general concern that there was a lack of community involvement in the budget process and MC
suggested LCC might consider the letter depending on the wording. MC to email Bute
Community Council.

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14. AOCB
DM mentioned that there was a need for new signatories on the bank account. It was also agreed
that there was a need to formalise the positions held on the CC since the last election. Office
bearers could have been chosen at the inaugural meeting but the LCC members attending had
decided to wait until all members are present. This would be actioned at the next LCC meeting
in May. 
There was a query about the lateness of dissemination of the minutes of the previous meeting. RB
apologised for this.  There was a query about the absence of minutes of the December meeting on
the website. MC explained that this had been the inaugural CC meeting, which had not been a
public meeting, but that the minutes had been posted on the shop noticeboard.