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Item 6 Appendix 2 - Dumbarton Town Centre Conservation Area Appraisal

West Dunbartonshire Council · 19 April 2023
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Appendix 2
Dumbarton Town Centre Conservation Area 
Draft Conservation Area Appraisal – summary of consultation
responses
Proposed extensions to Dumbarton Conservation Area
Dumbarton Bridge
All 17 respondents, including Historic Environment Scotland, supported the inclusion
of Dumbarton Bridge within a revised conservation area boundary.
Castle Street car park
Twelve respondents supported the inclusion of Castle Street car park within a
revised conservation area boundary, whilst 5, including Historic Environment
Scotland did not support.
Denny Ship Model Experiment Tank
Fifteen respondents supported the inclusion of the Denny Ship Model Experiment
Tank within a revised conservation area boundary, whilst 2, including Historic
Environment Scotland did not support.
With regard to the Castle Street car park and Denny Ship Model Experiment Tank
Historic Environment Scotland commented that:
“The townscape character changes beyond the Riverside Parish Church, which is
the current edge of the conservation area. The area along Castle Street to the east
of the church is now occupied by new housing, a supermarket and carpark to the
south and further carparks to the north. This space has been well-landscaped and
we agree that the rail tracks add historic interest, but the Denny Ship Tank and
adjacent housing are isolated beyond this and have minimal connection with the rest
of the conservation area.
The Denny Ship Tank is listed at category A and forms part of the National Maritime
Museum. It therefore already benefits from the highest degree of statutory protection.
The adjacent housing dates to the second half of the nineteenth century. While we
agree that it contributes to the historic character of the town and is worth preserving,
we consider that it would be difficult to argue that it is worthy of more protection than,
for example, similar housing further east in the vicinity of Wallace St, Victoria St and
Knoxland Square.”
Other comments on conservation area boundary
A question was asked about how the Council is dealing with the Artizan Centre given
its location in proximity to the conservation area.
A request was made for the town centre underpasses to be included in the
conservation area, and also for the properties on Castle Street next to the Denny
Ship Model Experiment Tank.

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Another comment requested that changes to the conservation area should mean an
improvement for the area or the structures.
Proposed listed buildings
Proposal listed building Support No support
Dumbarton public library 15 1
Former Hiram Walker HQ
(3 High Street)
13 3
Former Bank of Scotland
(22 High Street)
13 3
Church Street/Castle
Street tenements
13 3
Station Road/College
Street tenements -
proposed change from ‘C’
to B listed
14 2
* Historic Environment Scotland did not offer a view of the proposed listed buildings
The following buildings were also suggested as candidates for listing through the
consultation exercise. Some were already included within the appraisal suggestions,
whilst others are additional suggestions, some of which sit outwith the Conservation
Area Appraisal boundary.
• The new harbourside development and harbour
• Old Keil School building should be retained as a listed building
• Tenements at 84-92 High Street
• Former Glasgow Savings Bank (No 12 High Street)
• Tenements at 1-17 Castle Street
• TSB building (16 High Street)
• Flats at 35 High Street
• 4-10 Castle Street
• Risk Street housing complexes
• United Reform Church, Leven Street – upgrade to B listed
• 119-133 High Street
• Levenford House, Lodge and Stables and wall
• Original slipways at Leven Quay

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Key challenges
Respondents were asked to rank identified key challenges by importance, with 1
being very important and 5 very unimportant.
Challenge Average score
Loss of original architectural detail 1.3
Use of inappropriate materials & repair
techniques
1.7
Inappropriate modern additions to
buildings
1.4
Gap sites 2.6
Shop frontages 2.1
Exposed gables 2.2
Exposed and open backlands 2.4
Vacancy 2.3
Connectivity 2.6 
Management Plan
Fourteen respondents agreed or strongly agreed that a management plan should be
prepared for the conservation area. Two respondents were neutral on this issue.
Comments included:
“(the report)…. must not be allowed to gather dust…It must be used to ensure further
and continuing improvement to the town centre.”
“cannot and must not rely on funding - has to be a mechanism for self-preservation,
and self-reliance, focus on local economy.”
“Comprehensive management plan will be required for cost effective implementation
and longer term sustainability”
“flooding is a huge issue as is general degradation of so many of these buildings due
to poor work practices, poor drainage (surface run off issues as well as shared
drainage systems), poor repairs, poor knowledge in what materials should be used
etc – we need a major effort to preserve and provide the tools and money to people
to save what is at risk and help make meaningful improvement instead of fire fighting
(constantly fighting water damage).”
Opportunities
Nine respondents agreed or strongly agreed with the six general opportunities set in
out in the draft conservation area appraisal. Seven respondents were neutral and
none disagreed.
Comments included:
“Transparent procurement with local jobs being created for projects - included in
procurement briefs.”

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Who should the proposed guidance on the economic and aesthetic benefits of good
practice in building repair should be circulated to?
Who should the importance of routine building maintenance should be emphasised
to and by whom?
Energy efficiency measures should be beneficial for the people and the building, and
is balanced and considered.
“Routine building maintenance should be lawfully enforced - too many housing
factors do not take this role seriously at all - look at helping and intervening in
tenement housing at Station Road and Meadowbank Street. Reports of damp and
other issues go ignored.”
Recommendations
Eleven respondents agreed or strongly agreed with the 17 specific recommendations
identified in the draft conservation area appraisal. Five respondents were neutral and
none disagreed.
Comments included:
“All these recommendations are important, and I strongly agree that the Appraisal is
regularly reviewed and updated…”
“There should be a presumption against demolition – the most sustainable building is
one that already exists.”
“Sensitive and imaginative proposals for the re-use of vacant buildings and gap sites
should be encouraged - i want imagination beyond 'retail' and 'cafes' - what about
making use of the water? what about a floating sauna? what about walkways that
don't flood? what about public spaces where you don't have to spend money to enjoy
them?”
“Owners must be held accountable for contribution to bringing back to life.”
All of the conservation area should be targeted for improvement (not just its
thresholds.
“Lets not solely go down the road of this active travel narrative in a country with the
weather that we have.”
Create jobs and skills in the area (through ensuring new developments are of high
quality)
Consult with local people
“Not at the expense of parking – trying to encourage people into town, not out.
Common sense over oppressive ‘green’ policies• 14 -  I’m paying attention to the 20
minute neighbourhoods, the LTNs in London, and this drivel to stop the movement of
people.” 
Need to attract a wider audience (to Dumbarton town centre) than heritage focused.

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Clean up river.
“There should be a presumption against demolition – the most sustainable building is
one that already exists.”
“Sensitive and imaginative proposals for the re-use of vacant buildings and gap sites
should be encouraged - I want imagination beyond 'retail' and 'cafes' - what about
making use of the water? what about a floating sauna? what about walkways that
don't flood? what about public spaces where you don't have to spend money to enjoy
them?”
Any other comments?
“A first class report from one of Scotland's most respected conservation architects.”
“Ongoing meaningful public engagement is essential, Delivery of quality outcomes
must be assured.”
“Dumbarton has so much beautiful old architecture that makes it so special. I don't
think the modern type of buildings have much benefit to the town at all. For tourism
as well; I've had people visit Dumbarton from overseas and they were very
impressed by the old buildings.”
“I really want to see sustainable development that is tasteful! Too often new
developments immediately suffer from surface rain water flooding, are not in keeping
with the style of the area or just look like cheap knockoff versions of some older
style. I want to see walkways made of something other than tarmac.”
“There are listed buildings all over the country that are falling down because the well
meaning intention to preserve them costs too much. Dumbarton is not a wealthy
area so cost has to be considered when improving these lovely buildings. The
aesthetic of these old (buildings) should be improved but not without modernisation -
to move forward we need to preserve some of the old but also embrace the new.”