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Pay day lending and betting shops
Draft Planning Guidance
Background
Information
ITEM 7 -
APPENDIX 2

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West Dunbartonshire: profile
and vulnerability to gambling
and high interest debt
West Dunbartonshire is a mixed urban-rural area sitting in the north-west of the Glasgow
city-region. In 2021, West Dunbartonshire’s population was officially estimated to be
87,800, the majority of which lived in the urban areas of Clydebank, Dumbarton and the
Vale of Leven.
The West Dunbartonshire Council planning authority area excludes that part of the Council
area within the Loch Lomond and the Trossachs National Park i.e northern parts of Balloch
and the rural area to the east and west of Loch Lomond. West Dunbartonshire’s three main
town centres - Alexandria, Clydebank and Dumbarton - and the majority of the urban area
sit within the Council planning authority area.
Map 1: West Dunbartonshire Council and Planning Authority area
On many measures, West Dunbartonshire  can be identified as one of Scotland’s most deprived
Council areas. In 2020, 48 of West Dunbartonshire’s 121 datazones (39.67%) were within
Scotland’s 20% most deprived datazones, and 9 (7.44%) were within Scotland’s 5% most
deprived datazones1. Table 1 provides further evidence that West Dunbartonshire compares                                                         
1 SIMD (Scottish Index of Multiple Deprivation) https://simd.scot/#/simd2020/BTTTFTT/9/-4.0000/55.9000/

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poorly to the Scottish average when considering health, benefits and earnings data.
Table 1: West Dunbartonshire/Scotland comparison of employment, benefits and
earnings data
Measure West Dunbartonshire Scotland
Economically active
% of residents aged 16 - 64 77.0% 77.2%
Unemployment
% of economically active residents 3.4% 3.4%
Long-term sick
% of economically inactive 41.6.7% 31.9%
Earnings per residence
per week £616.00 £640.03
Out-of-work benefits
% of residents aged 16 - 64
claiming Job Seekers Allowance 2.1% 1.4%
Benefit claimants
% of residents aged 16 - 64 14.6% 10.2%
Since 2016, when the pay day lending and betting shop guidance was first implemented,
Economic activity and unemployment have improved in West Dunbartonshire to be on
equivalent to the rest of Scotland. However, weekly earnings in the area are still lower than
Scotland as a whole, and a greater number of people claim benefits. A higher proportion of
those who are economically inactive due to long term illness, which is more than scotland
as a whole.
Commissioned by the Responsible Gambling Fund, research prepared by Geofutures and
the National Centre for Social Research2 investigated relationships between the location of
gambling machines and the socio-demographic and economic environment in which they
are situated. The research found that areas with a high density of fixed odds betting
terminals tend to have poorer socio-economic indicators. The report identifies Clydebank
as being a High Density Machine Zone - an area where there is a high density of gambling
machines. It finds that areas of high machine density tend to have poorer socio-economic
indicators, with a higher proportion being low income areas and a higher proportion of
residents being economically inactive. Of those who are economically active, a greater
number active are in the lowest socio-economic sub-groups.
Table 2 provides evidence of this showing that West Dunbartonshire has a higher number
of betting shop licences per person than other local authorities with a similar population, but
which do not have as high a proportion of data zones within the 20% most deprived
2 2Wardle H., Keily R., Thurstain-Goodwin M. and Astbury G. 2011. Mapping the social and economic
characteristics of high density gambling machine locations. National Centre for Social Research and Geofutures
Ltd.

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Table 2: Local Authority population and betting shop licence
comparison3
Local authority area Population Betting shop licences Persons per licence
East Renfrewshire Council 96,600 10 9660
Midlothian Council 94,700 5 18940
Stirling Council 93,500 9 10389
West Dunbartonshire
Council
87,800 19 4621
Argyll and Bute Council 86,200 5 17240
Since 2016 the number of betting shop licences has decreased across all the authorities in
Table 2. However, West Dunbartonshire still has a significantly higher level of betting office
licences than authorities of a similar population size.
3 Betting shop licence figures derived from www.stopthefobts.org, January 2023. Original source is www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk

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Current situation
The Council undertakes a town centre outlet survey in Spring each year to record what
types of uses are occupying town centre units and to analyse the year on yearyear-on-year
change in the mix of uses and vacancy rates. Maps 2, 3 and 4 highlight betting offices and
pay day lending premises in Clydebank, Dumbarton, and Alexandria town centres, and
those premises with planning permission. The information was collected in the 2023 town
centre survey.
Clydebank Town Centre
The Clyde Shopping Centre forms the majority of Clydebank town centre. The northern part
of the centre is a modernised enclosed mall, and the southern part (Sylvania Way South)
an unenclosed, but partially covered and fully pedestrianised, shopping area. The northern
mall is adjoined by some larger retail units including a superstore, a cinema and restaurant
uses, and car parking. Clydebank has good access links with a rail station in the town
centre and another nearby, designated bus and taxi areas, and parking adjoining the
shopping centre.
Map 2:Clydebank town centre
A core retail area is identified within the town centre by the Local Development Plan 2.
Policy SC2 aims to maintain a quality retail offer at the heart of the town centre and control
against a proliferation of Class 2 uses. This covers the enclosed mall, adjoining large retail
units and Sylvania Way South

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Table 3 details the number of betting shops and premises offering high interest lending in
Clydebank town centre. Pay day lending and gambling uses are clustered on Sylvania Way
South, where there are 3 betting shops and 3 premises offering high interest lending. There
is also an amusement arcade on Sylvania Way South, another within the indoor market on
Sylvania Way South and another close-by on Chalmers Street. There is another betting
shop nearby on Chalmers Street. Another premises offering high-interest lending can be
found on Sylvania Way
Sylvania Way South is an area where the cluster of betting and pay day lending shops is
very noticeable. This is particularly significant as it serves as a main gateway to the town
centre linking Clydebank rail station and main bus stops on Chalmers Street with the rest of
the town centre.
Table 3: Betting shop and high interest lending premises in
Clydebank town centre
Clydebank town centre 2023 2015
Betting shop premises 32 3
High-interest lending premises 3 4
Dumbarton Town Centre
The town centre is based around the historic High Street and the more modern Artizan Centre.
Beyond this area is a mix of residential and civic uses such as the Sheriff Court, municipal
buildings and library. The town centre is served by a rail station and several bus services which
make use of the High Street.
Map 3: Dumbarton town centre
There is a core retail area identified within the town centre by the Local Development Plan 2,
the purpose of which is to maintain a quality retail offer at the heart of the town centre and

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control against a proliferation of Class 2 uses. This covers the central part of the High Street
and the Artizan Centre (College Way). All Pay day lending/pawn shops and betting offices within
Dumbarton town centre are within or vey near to the core retail area.
Table 4 details the number of betting shops and premises offering high interest lending in
Dumbarton town centre. Pay day lending and betting shops are found along the High Street
and in the Artizan Centre.
Table 4: Betting shop and high interest lending premises in Dumbarton town centre
Dumbarton town centre 2023 2015
Betting shop premises 3 3
High-interest lending premises 2 2
Alexandria Town Centre
Alexandria town centre is built mostly around Main Street, Alexandria, which is a traditional high
street, with Mitchell Way forming a more modern, pedestrian shopping street and Bank Street. The
town centre is accessible by rail and bus services and contains a mix of retail public services,
business and residences.
Map 4: Alexandria town centre
Unlike Clydebank and Dumbarton Alexandria does not have a core retail identified in LDP2Local
Development Plan 2 (2020 as modified) (LDP2), however it there are a number of development
opportunities for the town centre identified, including: the redevelopment of Mitchell Way,
improvements to the public realm and residential opportunities.
There are no high interest lending premises in Alexandria Town Centre, however there are a

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number of betting shops along Main Street
Table 5: Betting shop and high interest lending premises in Alexandria town centre
Alexandria  town centre 2023 2015
Betting shop premises 3 3
Changes To number and clustering since 2015
The number and clustering of pay day lending and betting shops has broadly remained very similar
since 2015, although there hashave been some changes in premises.
In Clydebank there is still a concentration of these premises in Sylvania Way South. In Dumbarton
the premises are mainly along the high street.
Local Centres
West Dunbartonshire has three local centres defined in LDP2: Dalmuir, Hardgate, and
Glasgow Road in Dumbarton.
Betting Shops in Local Centres
Dalmuir 2
Hardgate 2
Glasgow Road, Dumbarton 0
There are no pay day lenders in any of the local centres. The council does not hold past
information on the number of betting offices in local centres.
Other Locations
There are other locations in the West Dunbartonshire planning area outside of formally
designated town and local centres in LDP2, where shops and other services are clustered.
While policies on town and local centres would not apply in these locations, they can be
important in providing local services and access to day-to-day needs. There are some
betting offices in these locations:
 Radnor Street Clydebank
 Duntocher Road, Parkhall

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Literature review
The Royal Society for Public Health’s report ‘Health on the High Street’4 considers the positive
and negative impacts of a range of town centre uses on health. Health was considered holistically
with consideration given to:
 Healthy lifestyle choices
 Social interaction
 Access to health care services and health advice
 Mental wellbeing
The report used literature review, consultation with public health experts and a survey of a
representative sample of 2000 members of the public to score a range of different high street
uses in terms of their impact on health. Uses were given a score against each criteria ranging
from +2 where the use had a positive impact on health to -2 where the use had a negative impact
on health. A score of 0 was awarded when the impact was considered neutral.
For pay day lending shops:
 68% of those surveyed believe they discourage healthy choices
 65% of those surveyed believe they have a negative impact on mental wellbeing
 57% of those surveyed believe they have no effect on providing access to health services
Payday lending services were generally used to bridge gaps in finance to the next pay
checkpaycheck, with people on low incomes more likely to use pay day lending services. The
typical borrower is single, earns less than £20,000 a year and has at least one child, according to
research from a payday loan company.
For betting shops:
 54% of those surveyed believe they discourage healthy choices
 49% of those surveyed say they have no effect on promoting social interaction
 52% of those surveyed say they have a negative impact on mental wellbeing
Greater accessibility to gambling was found to have increase problem gambling. Gambling
machine density is disproportionality greater in areas of socioeconomic deprivation, and in areas
with a younger than average population profile.
An update to Health on the High Street was undertaken in 20185, titled ‘Health on the High Street:
Running on Empty’. It found that pay day loan shops declined on high street across the UK by a
third, largely because of new regulations making payday lending less profitable. It also found that
the increase in the number of betting shops had been halted in London where restrictions have
been put in place, indicating planning restrictions are effective at reducing the proliferation of
these uses.
The Royal Society for Public Health also published information on the impact of debt on a
personsperson’s health and wellbeing titled ‘Life on Debt Row’6. The report identified that there is
a statistically significant relationship between debt and a number of negative health outcomes,
including mental disorder, suicide attempts, drinking problems, drug dependence, depression,
OCD, and anxiety. Households are more likely to be in debt problems if they have a low income.                                                         
4 b6f04bb8-013a-45d6-9bf3d7e201a59a5b.pdf (rsph.org.uk)
5 rsph.org.uk/static/uploaded/dbdbb8e5-4375-4143-a3bb7c6455f398de.pdf
6 75b46b96-10e8-48a3-bc597f3d65d91566.pdf (rsph.org.uk)

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When compared to other forms of debt, payday loans had the greatest effect on wellbeing with
more people with payday loan debt reporting the following issues than people with other forms of
debt: they spent less time with others’ they ate less as they could not afford healthy food; their
housing is negatively effectedaffected; they could not afford time off or transport to access health
care.
When studying the impact of gambling on individuals and their social network7, the University of
Glasgow found that: those with easy access to gambling opportunities gambled more, and
moving away from areas where gambling was a problem tended to encourage reduction;
significant life events could cause someone to gamble more; and problematic gambling could
affect relationships.
Citizens Panel Survey
2016 Survey
The Council undertook a survey of its Citizen’s Panel in August/September 2015. The survey
results provide information of how residents within West Dunbartonshire view uses such as pay
day lending and betting shops in terms of how they contribute to the vitality and viability of the
area’s town centres. The full survey is included as Appendix 1. Some headline statistics are
included below.
With regard to Pay day lending shops
 90% of respondents did not feel they were important for a vibrant town centre
 38% disagreed and 50% strongly disagreed that they were important because they
helped to fill vacant premises.
 19% agreed and 57% strongly agreed that they charge very high interest rates
 27% agreed and 63% strongly agreed they make it too easy for vulnerable people to get a
loan
 68% of people strongly disagreed that they add to the vibrancy of the town centre.
 27% agreed and 44% strongly agreed that there are too many of them
 34% agreed and 37% strongly agreed that they are not good for the wellbeing of the
community.
With regard to betting offices:
 94% of respondents did not feel they were important for a vibrant town centre.
 42% disagree and 39% strongly disagree that they are important for filling vacant
premises
 35% agree and 44% strongly agree they make it too easy to gamble.
 36% agree and 44% strongly agree that there are too many of them.
 34% agree and 32% strongly agree that they are not good for community wellbeing.
Regarding the number and clustering of pay day lenders and betting offices:
 44% were quite concerned and 31% were very concerned about the overall number of
pay day lending and betting offices.
 38% were quite concerned and 32% were very concerned about the clustering of pay day
lending and betting offices.
 20% of people agreed and 75% of people agreed the council should be able to control the
number and clustering of pay day lending and betting shops in town centres.
7 https://www.physci.gla.ac.uk/media/Media_310864_smxx.pdf

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2023 Survey
The council repeated Citizens Panel  surveyPanel survey in 2023 with the citizens panel in
order to understand if there were any changes in attitudes to the pay day lending and betting
offices in town centres. The repeated survey stuck to the original as closely as possible with
a couple of exceptions.
The question asking respondents agreed or disagreed that pay day lending and betting
offices  “offices “attracted the wrong sort of people” was changed to “they attract antisocial
behaviour” at the recommendation of Performance and Strategy Officers.  When asking if
respondents were concerned about the number and clustering of pay day lending and
betting shops, this was combined to a single question for each use, rather than asking about
numbering and clustering separately. The question “To what extent do you agree that the
Council should be able to restrict the number and clustering of pay day lenders and betting
offices in your town centre?” was not included in the 2023 survey. The full survey is shown in
appendix 2
With regard to Pay day lending shops
 89% of respondents did not feel they were important for a vibrant town centre
 30% disagree and 51% strongly disagree that they are important because they help to fill
vacant premises.
 22% agree and 47% disagree that they charge very high interest rates.
 28% agree and 54% strongly agree that they make it too easy for vulnerable people to
get a loan.
 24% disagree and 61% strongly disagree that they add vibrancy to the town centre.
 29% agree and 37% strongly agree there are too many of them.
 31% agree and 35% strongly agree they are not good for the wellbeing of the community.
With regard to betting offices:
 86% of respondents did not feel they were important for a vibrant town centre
 36% disagree and 38% strongly disagree that they are important for filling vacant
premises
 30% agree and 48% strongly agree they make it too easy to gamble.
 32% agree and 38% strongly agree that there are too many of them.
 33% agree and 35% strongly agree that they are not good for community wellbeing.
Regarding the number and clustering of pay day lenders and betting offices:
 40% or respondents were quite concerned and 26% were very concerned about the
number and clustering of betting offices in  townin town centres.
 39% were quite concerned and 23% were very concerned about the number and
clustering of pay day lenders in town centres.
Conclusions from surveys
Results from both surveys indicate that   residents think the number and clustering of pay
day lending and betting shops have a negative impact on the vibrancy of the town centre
and that  theythat they are not goof for community wellbeing.   There is some difference to
the degree of agreement or disagreement with the questions between the two  surveystwo
surveys , the same conclusions can be drawn from both.

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Customer/ footfall counts
The Council undertook a survey of the number of customers visiting a variety of different
shop/service types in Clydebank and Dumbarton town centres in September and October
2016. Full details of the survey methodology and full results are set out in Appendix 3.
Alexandria was not included in the study or the initial guidance, and so there is not data
relating to customer or footfall counts in Alexandia.
The purpose of the survey was to gain an understanding of how many customers use such
as pay day lending and betting shops attracted to the town centres in comparison to other
uses.
The results for Clydebank town centre indicate that whilst the betting shop surveyed
attracted a comparable level of customers over the daytime period (9.30am to 5.30pm) to
other uses, the pawnbroker surveyed attracted a significantly smaller amount of customers.
Similar results were found in Dumbarton.
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Evening results
Clydebank Evening Count Dumbarton evening count
Time Unit Tally
17.30 - 18.00 Ladbrokes 9
18.00 - 18.30 Paddy Power 10
18.00 - 18.30 Ladbrokes 3
Time Unit Tally
17.30 - 18.00 William Hill 10
18.00 - 18.30 William Hill 10
18.00 - 18.30 William Hill 9

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Conclusions
This background information offers the following evidence in respect of pay day lending and
betting office uses in town centres
 The socio-economic profile of West Dunbartonshire means that it is vulnerable to the
ill-effects of gambling and high-interest short- term credit.
 There is already a significant presence of these uses in West Dunbartonshire,
including a cluster of such uses in Clydebank town centre.
 There is evidence of a much higher betting shop/ population ratio than similar sized
authorities
 The majority of residents of West Dunbartonshire held negative views in respect of
the contribution these uses make to the vitality and viability of the area’s town
centres.
 Pay day lending uses do not contribute significantly to daytime footfall, and betting
shops only make a limited contribution to evening footfall.

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Appendix 1: Citizens Panel
Research Report 2015

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Supplementary Guidance on Pay Day Lending
and Betting Offices Premises
Citizens’ Panel Research Report
by
For further information contact: Jim Patton
Director
Hexagon Research and Consulting
Suite 401
47 Timber Bush
Edinburgh
EH6 6QH
Tel: 0131 669 9574
e-mail: jim@hexagonresearch.co.uk September 2015

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Contents
Page
1. Introduction 3
2. Background and Objectives 4
3. Our Approach 6
4. The Importance of a vibrant town centre 8
5. Pay day lenders 16
6. Betting offices 21
7. The number and clustering of pay day lenders and betting 25
offices in town centres
8. Concluding Comments 32
Appendix 1: The West Dunbartonshire Citizens’ Panel 33
Appendix 2: Focus group discussion guide 37
Appendix 3: Survey questions 41

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1. Introduction
This document sets out our report for West Dunbartonshire Council on Citizens’ Panel
research conducted to help build the evidence base to support the development of
Supplementary Guidance on Pay Day Lending and Betting Offices Premises.
In our report:
 Section 2 sets out the background to and objectives of the assignment
 Section 3 outlines our approach to designing and conducting the research
programme
 Section 4 presents Panel members’ views on the importance of a vibrant town
centre
 Section 5 deals with respondents’ attitudes to pay day lenders in local town
centres
 Section 6 assesses Panel members’ views on betting offices in their local town
centre
 Section 7 establishes Panel members’ views on the impact of the number and
clustering of pay day lenders and betting offices in local town centres
 Section 8 sets out our concluding comments

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2. Background and Objectives
A recent report on pay day lending and gambling in Scottish town centres and
neighbourhoods1 cited the importance of town centres as a base for small businesses
and local jobs as well as the important role they play in community identity. This was
echoed in a second report2 which saw town centres as an important part of vibrant
communities and a critical engine for economic growth in local areas. It regarded high
streets as having an important role to play in supporting the public’s health; a healthy
high street can provide the public with healthy choices, support community cohesion and
social interaction, promote access to health services and support individual well
beingwellbeing.
Both reports also highlighted a growing concern with the clustering of pay day lenders
and betting offices in town centres, with the Scottish Government’s policy objectives in
relation to this aiming to:
 Improve town centres, creating vibrant community hubs with a range of services
by tackling the increasing numbers and clustering of pay day lenders and betting
offices
 Minimise exposure and potential adverse risk to vulnerable individuals of pay day
lenders via town centres
 Minimise exposure and potential adverse risk to vulnerable individuals through
gambling via town centres
However, the report from the May 2014 summit recognised that a key barrier to more
coherent action was the complex nature of reserved and devolved legislation; Planning
and Business rates are devolved while Financial Services, Consumer Credit and
Gambling are reserved. Consequently, the Scottish Government and local authorities
have limited controls on how to address concerns about the impact of pay day lenders
and betting offices. Nevertheless, it was felt the Planning system could be used to guard
against clustering of these types of premises.
1 Tackling Payday Lending and Gambling in Scottish Town Centres and Neighbourhoods. A report from a summit hosted
by the Minister for Local Government and Planning, Scottish Government. May 2014.
2 Health on the High Street. Royal Society for Public Health. 2015

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West Dunbartonshire Council’s Planning and Building Standards Department is now
involved in a pilot project supported by the Scottish Government which involves the
preparation of Supplementary Planning Guidance in relation to planning applications for
pay day lenders and betting offices. The purpose of the pilot is to strengthen/develop the
evidence base available when the Council wants to refuse planning applications for pay
day lenders and betting offices.
The Supplementary Guidance is required to be based on a policy in the Council’s existing
Local Development Plan, which sets out criteria for the assessment of non-retail uses
(such as pay day lenders and betting offices) in core retail areas. These criteria
arecriteria a r e :
a) Whether the change would significantly reduce the retail offer of the core retail area,
or parts of it;it.
b) Whether the change would lead to the concentration of a particular use to the
detriment of the town centre’s vitality and viability;viability.
c) The contribution the proposed use would make to the vibrancy of the town centre by
increasing footfall;footfall.
d) The availability and suitability of other locations in the town centre for the proposed
use to locate; and
e) Whether the unit affected by the proposal has been vacant and suitably marketed for
retail use.
Criteria a, d and e can be assessed objectively as they are based on unit size or
availability of units. Criteria b and c are more subjective and quite often based on a
single officer’s assessment. The Council therefore commissioned Hexagon Research
and Consulting to develop more objective evidence for these criteria (b & c) based on
public opinion.
Our approach to developing this evidence base is outlined in Section 3.

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3. Our Approach
There is a requirement to generate robust and credible data to support the
Supplementary Guidance which can withstand scrutiny as it will be used in reports to the
Planning Committee and be subject to independent scrutiny by Reporters considering
appeals. It is also important that any evidence has not been derived from what could be
viewed as ‘leading’ questions.
To meet these requirements, we recommended using the West Dunbartonshire Citizens’
Panel, a group of over 1,500 adults evenly divided between the Regeneration areas and
the rest of West Dunbartonshire (more details of the Panel are attached at Appendix 1).
In our view the Panel provided the ideal basis to conduct a two stagetwo-stage research
programme:
Stage 1 - Focus group research
Two focus groups with members of the Citizens’ Panel were held in Clydebank and
Dumbarton with the overall aim was of establishing respondents’ views on the impact of
the clustering of pay day lenders and betting offices on their town centre (positive and
negative). Respondents’ views on how to deal with any concerns about these types of
premises, including amending the Planning guidance, were also sought.
Each focus group was based on an agreed discussion guide (attached at Appendix 2),
with the aim of obtaining respondents’ views in an unprompted way. With the agreement
of respondents, the focus groups were recorded to ensure their comments are presented
accurately and verbatim comments can be included in our report (although these have
been anonymised). Once detailed transcriptions of the discussions were made, the
recordings were deleted. The focus groups were held on the 24th24th  July 2015.
Location Number of respondents Breakdown of respondents
Garshake, Dumbarton 7 4 male, 3 female
Town Hall, Clydebank 8 4 male, 4 female

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Stage 2 - Survey of the Citizens’ Panel
On completion of the focus group programme, the second stage involved a survey of all
members of the Citizens’ Panel. A postal survey approach was adopted for the survey
which covered a number of issues in addition to the questions required for the evaluation
of pay day lenders and betting offices (see Appendix 3). Questionnaires were sent out to
Panel members in early August 2015. By early September, a final response of 1,028
returns had been achieved (68%), and the table below illustrates the high level of
accuracy that can be attributed to the results derived from this response overall, as well
as for the two main sub areas.
Survey Response
West
Dunbartonshire
Dumbarton Clydebank Alexandria
Sample achieved 1,028 316 443 269
Sampling error ± 3.0% ± 5.5% ± 4.7% ± 6.0%
As illustrated above, results for the Panel as a whole have sampling errors limited to only
± 3%. This means, for example, that if 50% of Panel members say they support the
proposal for the Council to introduce planning policies so they would have stronger
control over the change of a use of a property into a pay day lender or a betting office,
the real figure would be in a narrow range, from only 47% to 53%.
The sampling errors for the three towns rise marginally to a range from only ± 4.7% to ±
6.0% and our analysis includes a breakdown by town as well as for West Dunbartonshire
as a whole.

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4. The importance of a vibrant town centre
Surveyed Panel members from Dumbarton use their town centre less regularly than
those in the other two towns. For example, only 39% said they visited the town weekly,
compared to 56% of those from Clydebank and 61% from Alexandria. Despite this, there is
widespread agreement across all three towns on the importance of a vibrant town
centre. Almost three quarters (72%) agree this is ‘very important’ while only 1% stated
that a vibrant town centre was ‘not very important’.
How often would you visit your local town centre?
Dumbarton Clydebank Alexandria West
Dunbartonshire
Daily 12% 8% 16% 12%
2-3 times a week 27% 48% 45% 41%
Once a week 33% 22% 23% 25%
2-3 times a month 20% 12% 9% 14%
Once a month 6% 6% 0% 4%
Less  thanLess
than  once  a
2% 4% 7% 4%
Never 0% Under 1% Under 1% Under 1%
How important do you think it is to have a vibrant town centre?
Dumbarton Clydebank Alexandria West
Dunbartonshire
Very important 74% 67% 78% 72%
Quite important 25% 30% 21% 26%
Not very important 1% 1% 2% 1%
Not important at all 0% 0% 0% 0%
Don’t know 0% 2% 0% 1%
There was also unanimous support among focus group respondents for the concept of a
vibrant town centre, with many citing reasons such as its importance to the health and
well beingwellbeing of the local community, as a base for community activity and an
important centre of employment.

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Of courseOf course, a vibrant town centre is important. It’s a sign of the health
of the local community.
Clydebank respondent
A town centre should be about more than just shopping. It should encourage
people to use it for social and recreational purposes, to provide a focus for
community activity.
Clydebank respondent
At one time the town centre had the post office, the big army recruitment centre,
the Council office where you could pay your rent and rates, the Registrar, as well
as a good range of shops. There were important civic functions as well as good
commercial outlets. It provided a wide range of activities and was an important
centre of employment. That’s what a vibrant town centre needs.
Dumbarton respondent
The features which most survey respondents regard as ‘very important’ in a vibrant town
centre include:
 A wide range of shops (79%)
 Good quality shops (74%)
 Banks (70%)
 Pharmacy/health facilities (68%)
Conversely, those which were regarded as being of least importance focused on:
 Betting offices (59% stated these were ‘not important at all’)
 Pay day lenders/pawn shops (57%)
These priorities were also reflected across the three town centres.

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How important are the following in a vibrant town centre?
Very
important
Quite
important
Not very
important
Not
important at
all
Don’t
know
Wide range of shops 79% 21% Under 1% Under 1% 0%
Fast food outlets 11% 42% 41% 6% Under 1%
Pharmacy/health facilities 68% 30% 2% Under 1% 0%
Pubs 3% 43% 43% 11% Under 1%
Charity shops 5% 49% 35% 10% 1%
Cafes and restaurants 36% 57% 5% 2% 0%
Betting offices Under 1% 5% 35% 59% 1%
Libraries/museums/art
galleries
42% 50% 7% 1% 0%
Banks 70% 29% 1% Under 1% Under 1%
Good quality shops 74% 24% 1% 1% Under 1%
Pay day lenders/pawn
brokers
Under 1% 6% 33% 57% 3%
Green/open spaces 38% 50% 9% 2% Under 1%
‘Pound’ shops 11% 45% 30% 12% 2%
Leisure facilities (cinema
etc)
45% 48% 5% 2% 0%
Local Government/civic
uses
33% 51% 12% 2% 2%

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‘Very important’ aspects of a vibrant town centre
Dumbarton Clydebank Alexandria
Wide range of shops 77% 76% 87%
Fast food outlets 9% 10% 15%
Pharmacy/health facilities 73% 60% 73%
Pubs 6% 2% 1%
Charity shops 8% 4% 5%
Cafes and restaurants 44% 30% 39%
Betting offices 0% 1% Under 1%
Libraries/museums/art galleries 36% 46% 43%
Banks 75% 60% 78%
Good quality shops 81% 72% 70%
Pay day lenders/pawn brokers 0% 1% 0%
Green/open spaces 34% 41% 38%
‘Pound’ shops 11% 9% 14%
Leisure facilities (cinema etc) 45% 46% 43%
Local Government/civic uses 38% 25% 38%
Base: respondents stating “very important”
Focus group respondents agreed that the key aspects of a vibrant town centre should
include good quality shops, as well as community facilities and services and effective
traffic management.
Better quality shops hashave to be the starting point, but the town centre should
also be a place for people to interact, so meeting places, places to sit, cafes and
so on are needed.
Clydebank respondent
I also think a town centre needs community services such as a library, or a health
centre or the Council’s one stop shop. It shouldn’t just be about shopping.
Clydebank respondent
There should be good traffic management to encourage the traffic to flow along
the High Street. The one-way system is meant to do thatthat, but the parking is
rarely policed and you get people parking on both sides of the road. So, when a
bus
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stops at a bus stop, it holds up all the traffic because the road isn’t wide enough
for cars to get past.
Dumbarton respondent
Panel members were then asked to indicate the extent to which they were satisfied with
each of these aspects of their own town centre. A very high level of satisfaction was
recorded for banks (89%) and pharmacy/health facilities (86%), while over half were also
satisfied with  cafeswith cafes  and  restaurants (60%)  and libraries,  museums and art
galleries (58%). Conversely, more than half of all Panel members were dissatisfied with
the range (57%) and quality (56%) of shops and approximately a third dissatisfied with
pay day lenders/pawn shops (34%) and betting offices (32%).
This pattern was largely repeated across each town centre apart from significantly higher
satisfaction in Clydebank for:
 Leisure facilities (70%)
 Local government/civic uses (58%)
 The range (44%) and quality (42%) of shops
 Fast food outlets (40%)

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How satisfied are you with the following in your town centre?
Very
satisfied
Quite
satisfied
Neither
satisfied nor
dissatisfied
Quite
dissatisfied
Very
dissatisfied
Don’t
know
The range of
shops
2% 22% 19% 37% 20% 0%
Fast food outlets 5% 25% 47% 12% 9% 2%
Pharmacy/health
facilities
25% 61% 10% 4% Under 1% Under 1%
Pubs 6% 27% 49% 9% 3% 6%
Charity shops 6% 42% 41% 9% 1% 1%
Cafes and
restaurants
6% 54% 22% 12% 5% 1%
Betting offices 4% 5% 51% 15% 17% 8%
Libraries/museum
s/art galleries
10% 48% 24% 10% 5% 3%
Banks 30% 59% 7% 3% Under 1% 1%
The quality of the
shops
4% 25% 14% 36% 20% 1%
Pay day
lenders/pawn
brokers
3% 5% 47% 16% 18% 11%
Green/open
spaces
8% 37% 27% 21% 7% Under 1%
‘Pound’ shops 7% 29% 42% 10% 8% 4%
Leisure facilities
(cinema etc)
6% 28% 20% 24% 19% 3%
Local
Government/civic
uses
4% 34% 39% 12% 4% 7%

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Satisfied with aspects of your local town centre
Dumbarton Clydebank Alexandria
The range of shops 8% 44% 11%
Fast food outlets 27% 40% 18%
Pharmacy/health facilities 92% 78% 93%
Pubs 40% 26% 35%
Charity shops 44% 51% 46%
Cafes and restaurants 50% 68% 56%
Betting offices 6% 12% 9%
Libraries/museums/art
galleries
44% 67% 61%
Banks 88% 89% 90%
The quality of the shops 13% 42% 29%
Pay day lenders/pawn brokers 5% 7% 13%
Green/open spaces 37% 49% 47%
‘Pound’ shops 44% 41% 17%
Leisure facilities (cinema etc) 8% 70% 4%
Local Government/civic uses 24% 58% 23%
Base: respondents stating “very satisfied” or “quite satisfied”
These findings were consistent with the views of focus group respondents. Dumbarton
residents in particular complained about the poor range of shops, the prevalence of
charity shops and that there were too many empty properties.
There is very little in the town centre now. I would only go in maybe once every
few weeks, usually to the bank. I think the authorities are just papering over the
cracks with the town centre. It really is a terrible place and just doesn’t work.
Dumbarton respondent
People do their food shopping out of town or go to the shopping centre in
Clydebank. I don’t know many people who would come into Dumbarton on a
regular basis because the shops are so poor.
Dumbarton respondent
The shopping centre at Clydebank is undercover. They tried to put up some cover
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designed and when it rains, the water just pours in. And they are never cleaned so
the appearance is very off-putting.
Dumbarton respondent
Unfortunately, the town centre is now full of charity shops. I know they are serving
a purposepurpose, but you wouldn’t decide to go into town to look in the charity
shops.
They don’t really add anything to the vitality of the High Street.
Dumbarton respondent
There are too many empty shops on the High Street. That is even worse than
having lots of charity shops; it creates an air of neglect and decay.
Dumbarton respondent
Clydebank focus group respondents said they visited their town centre more frequently,
with some saying the shopping centre met most of their needs. However, there was a
concern that the town didn’t have a genuine town centre, only a shopping centre, with
none of the community focus they would prefer to see. Some also said there were too
many charity shops and ‘pound’ shops.
I think the shopping centre is perfectly adequate. I use it every day for my food
shopping and there is also a bank.
Clydebank respondent
The town centre used to be around here (the Town Hall). We don’t really have a
town centre, just a shopping centre. You’ve got 3 Queens Square where they re-
instated the old bandstand and there are occasions when some event is put on.
But now a cycle path goes right through it and you take your life in your hands
walking across it. They spent £2.2m doing up 3 Queens Square in an attempt to
improve the town centre but to me it was a complete waste of money. It doesn’t
provide a community focus for the town.
Clydebank respondent
I don’t use it (the shopping centre) as much as I used to as it has become
dominated by places like pound shops.
Clydebank respondent
There are too many charity shops, especially when they seem to be concentrated
in one part of the centre.
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5. Pay day lenders
To help the Council develop its evidence base to  supportto support  new  Planning
Guidance, survey respondents were asked to state the extent to which they agreed or
disagreed with ten statements about pay day lenders/pawn brokers in their town centre
(to minimise bias, the statements were phrased to reflect both positive and negative
views of pay day lenders/pawn brokers). As illustrated in the table below, there is a very
high level of agreement that pay day lenders/pawn brokers:
 Make it  tooit too  easy for  vulnerable  people to get a loan  (90% agreed  with
this statement)
 Charge very high interest rates (76%)
 There are too many of them (71%)
 They are not good for the well beingwellbeing of the town centre (71%)
Significantly, 92% also disagreed that pay day lenders/pawn brokers add to the
vitality/vibrancy of the town centre (with 68% ‘disagreeing strongly’). There was also little
support for the role pay day lenders/pawn brokers play in helping to fill vacant premises
(88% disagreed that this was important, with 50% ‘disagreeing strongly’) or by paying
business rates (62% disagreed that this was important). These views were also strongly
reflected within each of the three towns.

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Do you agree or disagree with the following statements about pay day
lender/pawn brokers in your town centre?
Strongly
agree
Agree Disagree Strongly
disagree
Don’t know
They are important
because they help to fill
vacant premises
1% 6% 38% 50% 5%
They charge very high
interest rates
57% 19% 1% 3% 20%
They make an
important contribution
to the area by paying
business rates
1% 15% 38% 24% 22%
They make it too easy
for vulnerable people to
get a loan
63% 27% 3% 1% 6%
They add to the
vitality/vibrancy of the
town centre
Under 1% 2% 24% 68% 6%
There are too many of
them
44% 27% 7% 6% 16%
They provide an
important service for
those who can’t access
mainstream financial
institutions
3% 21% 39% 24% 13%
They attract the wrong
type of people into the
town/put others off
21% 30% 25% 7% 17%
They are a valuable
employer in the town
centre
2% 9% 37% 25% 27%
They are not good for
the well being of the
community
37% 34% 8% 6% 15%

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Agreement with statements in your local town centre about pay day lenders/pawn
shops
Dumbarton Clydebank Alexandria
They are important
because they help to fill
vacant premises
10% 8% 3%
They charge very high
interest rates
88% 74% 66%
They make an important
contribution to the area by
paying business rates
22% 14% 11%
They make it too easy for
vulnerable people to get a
loan
92% 87% 91%
They add to the
vitality/vibrancy of the
town centre
5% 2% 2%
There are too many of
them
80% 75% 55%
They provide an important
service for those who
can’t access mainstream
financial institutions
30% 24% 16%
They attract the wrong
type of people into the
town/put others off
49% 53% 49%
They are a valuable
employer in the town
centre
20% 6% 8%
They are not good for the
well being of the
community
66% 70% 76%
Base: respondents stating “strongly agree” or “agree”
Focus group respondents were also asked if they felt there was a role for pay day
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There is clearly a demand for them, so they must provide a service for some
people. I guess for some people they are a necessity.
Dumbarton respondent
I do some volunteering work with St. Vincent de Paul and I see the lower end of
the social scale. A Credit Union is a brilliant thingthing, but a lot of people just
can’t get access to these because they can’t save, whether it’s through drugs or
alcohol dependence. For some the only option is the pay day lender. They are
convenient in the sense that some people can get a small loan to see them
through a short period until their benefits or wages are paid. Unfortunately, it
doesn’t always work out as simple as that and astronomical rates of interest are
charged.
Clydebank respondent
However, the overwhelming view of focus group respondents was that pay day lenders
were unwelcome in their town centres because of the high interest rates they charge,
that their presence was not a sign of a healthy community as well as a feeling that the
pawn broking aspect of some of the shops encouraged criminal behaviour.
I work in the local Credit Union. Why on earth do people go in tointo these pay
day lenders when there is a Credit Union on their doorstep? The interest in the
Credit Union is 1% on the reduced balance. They can save to get some money
behind them and get a loan when they need it at a low rate of interest.
Clydebank respondent
The pay day lenders argue that their loans are meant to be paid off quickly and the
interest payable is usually a relatively small amount, but we all know they don’t
work like that. People borrowing the money usually extend the loan or take out
another one and the interest piles up.
Clydebank respondent
I can’t see what value they (pay day lenders) bring to the community other than to
a small desperate minority. When you see these shops the impression you get is
of a community that has problems. They are not a sign of a healthy and vibrant
community.
Clydebank respondent
Some people just see what they are getting (a pay day loan) and don’t think about
the consequences. It’s the same with the crowds you see in places like ***** *****
where they will get a TV valued at £600 for a few pounds a week but end up paying
£3,000 for it as the weekly payments go on forever.
Clydebank respondent
My main concern is that the pay day lenders do not screen people properly so that
they lend responsibly. They seem happy to lend to anyone and are probably glad
when the customer can’t pay back on time so they can add even more interest.
That’s not the type of business we should welcome on our High Street.
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My worry is that they look like they are fences for criminal behaviour, offering
cash for goods with little concern where they came from.
Clydebank respondent
I would prefer another couple of empty shops if it meant getting rid of these
places (pay day lenders) from the High Street. They create the wrong impression
and attract a criminal element.
Dumbarton respondent
I work in a charity shop and one of the lads who comes in from time to time told
me when he is skint he nicks the footballs from outside ** *****  then* then sells
them to the pawn broker shop. He says he never gets asked where the things
come from. Dumbarton respondent
These pawn broker places just encourage crime. I know of one lad who broke into
a church and stole two big brass candlesticks. When the Police found them in a
pawn broker’s shop, the manager said he had bought them that morning for a
fiver. They were obviously worth a lot moremore, but the manager turned a blind
eye to where they had come from. We don’t want that sort of thing going on in our
town centre.
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6. Betting offices
A similar approach was adopted to establish Panel members’ views on betting offices in
their town centre. Of the nine statements about betting offices, those which most survey
respondents agreed with were:
 There are too many of them (80%)
 They make it too easy to gamble (79%)
 They are not good for the well beingwellbeing of the
community (66%) The majority of respondents also disagreed that
betting offices:
 Added  vitalityAdded vitality  and  vibrancy  to  their  town  centre  (85% 
disagreed,  with  41% ‘strongly disagreeing’)
 Were important because they help to fill vacant premises (81% disagreed)

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Do you agree or disagree with the following statements about betting offices in
your town centre?
Strongly
agree
Agree Disagree Strongly
disagree
Don’t
know
They are important
because they help to fill
vacant premises
1% 13% 42% 39% 5%
They make it too easy to
gamble
44% 35% 13% 3% 5%
They make an important
contribution to the area
by paying business rates 2% 26% 30% 20% 22%
There are too many of
them
44% 36% 6% 2% 12%
They add to the
vitality/vibrancy of the
town centre
2% 7% 44% 41% 6%
They attract the wrong
type of people into the
town/put others off
20% 28% 28% 9% 15%
They provide an
important service for
those who like to gamble
4% 40% 25% 17% 14%
They are not good for
the well being of the
community
32% 34% 17% 3% 14%
They are a valuable
employer in the town
centre
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Agreement with statements about betting shops
Dumbarton Clydebank Alexandria
They are important because
they help to fill vacant premises
11% 15% 17%
They make it too easy to
gamble
86% 81% 68%
They make an important
contribution to the area by
paying business rates 24% 27% 32%
There are too many of them 75% 83% 83%
They add to the vitality/vibrancy
of the town centre
9% 6% 15%
They attract the wrong type of
people into the town/put others
off
55% 46% 46%
They provide an important
service for those who like to
gamble
47% 44% 39%
They are not good for the well
being of the community
67% 69% 62%
They are a valuable employer in
the town centre
29% 19% 22%
Base: respondents stating “strongly agree” or “agree”
Several focus group respondents acknowledged that betting offices have been around
for a long time and can provide a useful service for some people. There was also an
acceptance that they help to create employment and contribute income to the area
through the payment of business rates.
The bookie’sbookies has always been part of our society and I’m sure there are
some who enjoy the odd punt. I had a friend who went to the bookies each
morning to place his bets then came home and spent the afternoon watching the
races on the TV. It wouldn’t appeal to meme, but he enjoyed it and it got him out of
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I’ve got a neighbourneighbour, and he likes to have a wee bet now and then. I’m
not opposed to that but surelysurely, we don’t need to have more than one or two
in the town.
Clydebank respondent
At least they pay business rates to the Council rather than there being even more
depressing empty premises which generate no income. It might not be the shop
that you want but it provides employment for some people.
Dumbarton respondent
However, there was widespread concern among most focus group respondents about
the number of betting offices, their siting at the heart of town centres and the growth of
fixed odds betting terminals.
Clydebank is a deprived area and people can’t afford to lose money through
gambling so I’m opposed to them being in busy places where people passing by
might be tempted to go in.
Clydebank respondent
As well as the bookies there are places in the shopping centre where there are
loads of fruit machines where kids as young as 10 or 12 can go. I think it’s
incredible that we are encouraging school kids to go to these places. In a few
years timeyear’s time they will graduate to the bookies and a lifetime of debt.
Clydebank respondent
In the olden days they (betting offices) were hidden up closes but now they are
right on the High Street. Unfortunately, they now seem to be right at the centre of
our community.
Dumbarton respondent
These fixed odds betting terminals just eat money. I heard that they keep about 99
pence out of every pound bet.
Dumbarton respondent
The profit from the slot machines (fixed odds betting terminals) is massive. They
are a real menace.
Clydebank respondent

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7. The number and clustering of pay day lenders and betting
offices in town centres
Given the views expressed above in relation to the perceived impact of pay day lenders
and betting offices in West Dunbartonshire’s town centres, it is not surprising that the
majority of Panel members stated they were concerned about the number of these
premises (75%) as well as their clustering in particular parts of the town centres (70%).
Conversely, typically only one in five respondents stated they were ‘not very concerned’
or ‘not concerned at all’.
Are you concerned about the number and clustering of pay day lenders and
betting offices in your town centre?
Very
concerned
Quite
concerned
Not very
concerned
Not
concerned
at all
Don’t
know
The overall number of
pay day lenders and
betting offices in the
town centre
31% 44% 15% 3% 7%
The clustering of pay
day lenders and betting
offices in particular parts
of the town centre
32% 38% 18% 3% 9%
Are you concerned about the number and clustering of pay day lenders and
betting offices in your town centre?
Dumbarton Clydebank Alexandria
The overall number of pay day
lenders and betting offices in the
town centre 82% 75% 69%
The clustering of pay day lenders
and betting offices in particular
parts of the town centre 69% 77% 59%
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Focus group respondents in both towns also raised the issue (unprompted) of the
clustering of pay day lenders and betting offices, with most saying they would prefer to
see fewer of these outlets in their town centre.
In the lower part of Clydebank (shopping centre) all you have are charity shops,
pound shops, pay day lenders, pawn shops and bookies. We definitely don’t need
any more of these. I understand some people want these placesplaces, but we
really don’t need three or four of each in such a small area.
Clydebank respondent
The top half of the centre is not too bad; there are some good shops there. But the
bottom part is all pound shops, charity shops, bookies, fruit machine places.
There is also a beautiful listedbeautiful, listed building, the old Co-operative
building that is lying empty.
Clydebank respondent
There are three pay day lenders or pawn shops in a row at the bottom end of the
shopping centre. I think there are more now than there were a few years ago. It’s
definitely not a problem that is going away.
Clydebank respondent
I wouldn’t want to see any more betting shops in the town centre. This is a
deprived area and betting shops can be fatal for those who have a gambling
addiction.
Dumbarton respondent
You also get these ‘cash generator’ type of shops opening all the time. They can
be good to get your foreign exchange when you’re going on holiday, but the pawn
broking and pay day loans side of the business is not welcome.
Dumbarton respondent
Two of the Council’s key criteria for the assessment of non-retail uses (such as pay day
lenders and betting offices) in core retail areas are:
 Whether a change would lead to the concentration of a particular use to the
detriment of the town centre’s vitality and viability or,
 Whether the proposed use would make a contribution to the vibrancy of the town
centre by increasing footfall
As illustrated in the table below, the vast majority of survey respondents (82%) agree
that more pay day lenders and betting offices would have a detrimental effect on the
vitality and vibrancy of their town centre. Conversely, only 4% agreed that more pay day
lenders and betting offices would improve the vitality and vibrancy and vitality of their

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town centre by increasing footfall. In addition, 81% agreed that more pay day lenders
and betting offices would be bad for the health and well beingwellbeing of the local
community. These views were strongly reflected within each of the three towns.
The effect of more pay day lenders and betting offices in your town centre
Strongly
agree
Agree Disagree Strongly
disagree
Don’t know
It would have a
detrimental effect on
the vitality and vibrancy
of the town centre
51% 31% 8% 1% 9%
It would improve the
vitality and vibrancy of
the town centre by
increasing footfall
2% 2% 45% 45% 6%
It would be bad for the
health and well being
of the community
43% 38% 6% 3% 10%
The effect of more pay day lenders and betting offices in your town centre
Dumbarton Clydebank Alexandria
It would have a detrimental effect on
the vitality and vibrancy of the town
centre 86% 77% 87%
It would improve the vitality and
vibrancy of the town centre by
increasing footfall 2% 6% 3%
It would be bad for the health and
well beingwellbeing of the
community
84% 81% 77%
Base: respondents stating “strongly agree” or “agree”
Survey respondents were asked to state the extent to which they agreed that the Council
should be able to restrict the number and clustering of pay day lenders and betting
offices in their town centre. Overall, 95% agreed with this statement, with 75% ‘strongly
agreeing’, a pattern found across all three town. Less than 1% disagreed.

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To what extent do you agree that the Council should be able to restrict the number
and clustering of pay day lenders and betting offices in your town centre?
Dumbarton Clydebank Alexandria West
Dunbartonshire
Strongly agree 76% 77% 69% 75%
Agree 19% 18% 24% 20%
Disagree 0% 1% 0% Under 1%
Strongly disagree 0% 1% 0% Under 1%
Don’t know 5% 3% 7% 5%
There was also universal agreement among focus group respondents that steps should
be taken to prevent more pay day lenders and betting offices from opening in town
centres, and in particular, from clustering in particular parts of the town centre.
I’m a gambler and I like the fact that having two or three bookies in the town
centre means there is competitioncompetition, and I can get shop around to get
better odds, but we don’t need any more than the ones we’ve got. Two or three is
plenty.
Clydebank respondent
We do not want more pay day lenders and bookies opening in the shopping centre
or the streets around it. We made that clear during the Harry Corry case. We were
up in arms about it.
Clydebank respondent
It would be a backward step to allow too many of these (pay day lenders and
betting offices) to be located on the High Street. Even though it might reduce the
number of empty premises, it would be detrimental to the well beingwellbeing of
our town and the community.
Dumbarton respondent
If there was a growth in the number of pay day lenders and bookies in Dumbarton,
you may as well turn the lights out because it would destroy the town. People
would avoid the High Street full stop. The High Street would be dead.
Dumbarton respondent
They give them catchy names likelike, but they are basically pawn shops. I get the
feeling these are the only shops which can fill up the empty spaces in the High
StreetStreet, but I wouldn’t say that was a good thing because there are simply too
many of them already. I can understand some people may need them but surely
one or two on the High Street is enough.
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The real problem is the proximity of bookies in one place. If there was one at either
end of the shopping centre, I don’t think people would complain. But having them
concentrated near each other, and near pawn shops or pay day lenders, is going
to create an environment that is very off putting to most people coming into the
centre.
Clydebank respondent
Siting a bookie’s next to a pay day lender or a pawn broker is just asking for
trouble.
Clydebank respondent
Surely it has reached the point where the local authorities can say, ‘That’s it. There
aren’t going to be any more bookies or any more pay day lenders’lenders. I
assume business of that nature have to be licensed so surely the Council can just
stop awarding licenses to restrict the numbers.
Dumbarton respondent
The Council licenses bookies so I can’t see why they don’t refuse more licenses to
reduce the number of premises.
Dumbarton respondent
Can’t the Council set a cap on the number of licenses issued?
Clydebank respondent
I don’t think the Council can do that (cap the number of licenses) because the
Harry Corry case was an example of where the Council seemed unable to prevent
the application for another betting office.
Clydebank respondent
What made me angry recently was when Harry Corry was closing someone wanted
to use the site for another bookie’s shop. The people of Clydebank all said no;   
we don’t want another bookie’s. That’s the last thing we need. But the Council said
they can go ahead and open a bookie’sbookies there. How can the Council take a
decision like that against the wishes of the people? What can the people of
Clydebank      do to stop more bookies being opened if the Council won’t help? It 
feels like we don’t have a voice.
Clydebank respondent
Respondents were informed that the Council has limited powers to address the number
and clustering of pay day lenders and betting offices in town centrescentres, but one
option would be to introduce planning policies so that the Council would have stronger
control over the change of use of a property into a pay day lender or a betting
office. As illustrated in the table below, 95% of Panel members said they would support
thissupport this proposal, with more than two thirds (68%) saying they would ‘strongly
support’ it. Only 2% said they opposed it.

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To what extent would you support planning policies so that the Council would
have stronger control over the change of a use of a property into pay day lender
or a betting office?
Dumbarton Clydebank Alexandria West
Dunbartonshire
Strongly support 67% 72% 61% 68%
Support 30% 21% 32% 27%
Oppose 1% 4% Under 1% 2%
Strongly oppose 0% 1% 0% Under 1%
Don’t know 2% 2% 7% 3%
This proposal was also widely welcomed by focus group respondents as an effective
way to prevent the future clustering of pay day lenders and betting offices in their town
centres.
That’s definitely something I would support. If only the Council had those powers
at the time of the Harry Corry case, we would have felt a lot happier. At the time we
felt we were being ignored but now I understand the Council and the Scottish
government had no option.
Clydebank respondent
It clearly won’t help with the existing problem of bookies and pay day lenders. We
have to accept that. But it will ensure the problem won’t get any worse.
Clydebank respondent
The Council should be in a position to be able to refuse an application for a new
bookie’s or pay day lender if they feel there are too many of them in the area
already and more would be detrimental to the well beingwellbeing of the town. If
the simplest way to do that is to amend the planning laws, then I’m all for that.
Dumbarton respondent
A lot of the political parties mentioned taking action against the proliferation of
pay day lenders and betting offices in their manifestos. It’s good to see that now
seems to be bearing fruit. The pay day lenders are the scourge of our
nationnation, and they need to be stopped.
Clydebank respondent
That sounds a lot better than playing around with the business rates. It tackles the
issue head on by refusing to allow more premises to be turned into pay day
lenders or bookies shops.
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I’m delighted to hear that action is being taken on this (dealing with the clustering
of pay day lenders and betting offices). It restores your faith in the political
process.
Clydebank respondent
The Scottish government has been criticised for being too authoritarian but this
(the clustering of pay day lenders and betting offices) is an issue which does need
intervention.
Dumbarton respondent

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8. Concluding Comments
The survey and focus group research programme with members of the West
Dunbartonshire Citizens’ Panel has generated feedback on three key issues:
The importance of a vibrant town centre – respondents widely acknowledged
the vital role a vibrant town centre can play in promoting community well
beingwellbeing and cohesion
Major concerns about the number and  clusteringand clustering of pay
day lenders and betting offices – there was universal concern about the
number of pay day lenders and betting offices premises, and in particular, their
clustering in some of the busiest parts of town centres where they had an
unhealthy impact on community well beingwellbeing. Significantly,
 82% of survey respondents agreed that more pay day lenders and betting
offices would be detrimental to their town centre’s vitality and vibrancy
(Criterion b for the assessment of non-retail uses in core retail areas)
 Only 4% stated that more pay day lenders and betting offices would
improve the vitality and vibrancy of the town centre by increasing footfall
(Criterion c)
 95% of Panel members agreed that the Council should be able to
restrict the number and clustering of pay day lenders and betting
offices in town centres
Widespread support for Supplementary Planning Guidance – there was
widespread support (95%) for planning policies which would give the Council
stronger control over the change of use of a property into a pay day lender or a
betting office
Jim Patton
Director
Hexagon Research and Consulting
September 2015

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Appendix 1
West Dunbartonshire Citizens’ Panel

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The West Dunbartonshire Citizens’ Panel was recruited with the following aims:
 To be representative of local residents and willing to be surveyed on a regular basis
about the policies and services of the community planning partners
 To recruit approximately 500 Panel members from the regeneration areas and a
further 500 across the rest of West Dunbartonshire
 To allow these views to be fed into the decision-making processes of the community
planning partners
 To keep Panel members informed of the actions taken by community planning
partners in response to the views expressed
Previous Recruitment Exercises
The original Panel recruitment exercise in 2005 produced 1,185 members, with 542 in 
thein t h e Regeneration areas and 639 across the rest of West Dunbartonshire. With the
aim of running typically four surveys with the Panel each year, it was agreed to refresh
the Panel on a regular basis and refresh exercises were carried out in October 2007,
March     2009, February 2011, September 2012 and March 2014.
The 2014 Refresh
Between late February and late March 2014, two exercises were completed to refresh
the Panel:
 To replace those removed from the Panel, a fresh sample of 7,500 residents was
drawn from the edited edition of the 2013 Electoral Register for West
Dunbartonshire. Of these, 5,000 lived in the Regeneration areas and 2,500 lived
elsewhere within West Dunbartonshire. Based on previous recruitment exercises,
it was anticipated there would be an interest to join the Panel from approximately
5% of those from the Regeneration areas and 10% from those who lived
elsewhere in West Dunbartonshire, generating approximately 500 new Panel
members. The recruitment questionnaire (Appendix 1) was therefore issued to

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the sample of 7,500 which generated 511 responses from residents who ticked a
declaration to indicate they wished to become Panel members
 In recognition of wanting to maintain the Panel at a similar size, the response to
the last two survey exercises was examined, revealing 490 Panel members who
had not replied to either. These were sent a letter advising them they would be
withdrawn from the Panel unless they indicated they wished to remain Panel
members through a Freepost reply. However, none responded to say they
wished to remain Panel members, leaving a core of 992 Panel members before
the refresh exercise
When the 511 new Panel members were added to the 992 existing Panel members, this
gave a refreshed Panel of 1,503 members, with 747 in the regeneration areas and 756 in
the rest of West Dunbartonshire.
2014 Panel Characteristics
Overall, the 2014 Panel has a very similar composition to the 2012 Panel and also
continues to reflect many of the characteristics of the West Dunbartonshire adult
population, with most variations being limited to only a few percentage points (a full
breakdown is provided in Appendix 2 to this report). This is particularly the case in terms
of the following characteristics:
 Residents aged 30-59 (53.5% of the Panel compared to 50.9% in the Council’s
estimate)
 Gender (56.1% of the Panel is female compared to 53.6% in the Council’s
estimate)
 Ethnicity (the Council estimates 99.3% of the adult population is white. Excluding
‘not stated’ responses, the Panel has 97.8% white members)
 Residents in owner occupation (62.6% of the Panel compared to 58% in the
Council’s estimate)

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However, the principal difference is that the Panel has a higher proportion of who are
aged 60+ (37.1% compared to 28.8% in the Council’s estimate).

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Appendix 2
Focus group discussion guide

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Supplementary Guidance on Pay Day Lending and Betting Offices Premises
Focus Group Discussion Guide
Introduction Welcome respondents and outline purpose of discussion:
Stress the confidentiality of the discussion
Your town
centre
How often do you visit your town centre?
What do you visit the town centre for?
Overall, how important is it to have a town centre that is ‘vibrant’ and
has a positive impact on the well beingwellbeing of the local
community?
Why do you say that?
Prompt:
Good for community cohesion
Important for the local economy
Provides an identity for the town
Diverse range of shopping outlets
Important community facilities
Important business location
A ‘vibrant’ town
centre
What are the characteristics you would associate with a good town
centre?
Prompt:
Good range of shops
Pharmacies/health facilities
Leisure centres/health clubs
Libraries
Museums/art galleries
Pubs
Cafes and restaurants
Good open/green spaces
Good parking facilities
Good public transport
What are the characteristics you would associate with a town centre
that was not good?
Prompt:
PDLs
BOs
Tanning salons
Fast food outlets
Vacant premises
Litter
Traffic congestion

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Rating your
town centre
Overall, how would you rate your town centre on these
characteristics?
What do you regard as the best aspects of your town centre?
What do you regard as the worst aspects of your town centre?
Prompt:
Clustering of PDLs and BOs
PDLs What are your views on the presence of PDLs in your town centre?
First of all, your positive views.
Prompt:
They help fill vacant premises
They help increase the footfall in the town centre
They provide a service for those who can’t access mainstream financial
institutions
Have you any negative views on the presence of PDLs in your town
centre?
Prompt:
They exploit the most vulnerable by making it too easy to get a loan
They charge very high interest rates
They are aggressive when pursuing payment
There are too many of them
They create a bad impression
They attract the wrong type of people into the town/put others off
They are not good for the well beingwellbeing of local
communities
BOs What are your views on the presence of BOs in your town centre?
First of all, your positive views.
Prompt:
They help fill vacant premises
They help increase the footfall in the town centre
They provide a service for those who like to gamble
Have you any negative views on the presence of BOs in your town
centre?
Prompt:
They exploit the most vulnerable by making it too easy to gamble
There are too many of them
They create a bad impression
They attract the wrong type of people into the town/put others off
They are not good for the well beingwellbeing of local
communities

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Clustering of
PDLs and BOs
Do you think that allowing more properties to change their use to
become PDLs or BOs would affect the town centre?
In what way?
Positive prompts:
It would be good for the vibrancy and vitality of the town centre
It would be good for community well being
It would help fill vacant premises
It would help increase the footfall in the town centre
It would provide a service for those who like to gamble
Negative prompts:
It would not be good for the vibrancy and vitality of the town centre
It would not be good for community well being
They exploit the most vulnerable by making it too easy to gamble
There are already too many of them
They create a bad impression
They attract the wrong type of people into the town/put others off
Solutions To what extent would you say you were concerned about the
clustering of PDLs and BOs in your town centre?
Overall, do you think action is needed to curtail the number and
clustering of PDLs and BOs in your town centre?
What steps do you think should be taken?
Prompt:
They should be charged higher business rates
Planning permission should be refused for a change of use to a PDL or BO
Closing
remarks
Council’s role in pilot scheme to develop supplementary guidance by
September for the Scottish Government
Thank respondents and end

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Appendix 3
Survey
Questions

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Section 2: Your Town Centre
Q7. Which of the following do you regard as your local town centre?
Dumbarton (the High Street, including the
Artizan Shopping Centre) 01
Clydebank (the Clyde Shopping Centre,
Sylvania Way South and the streets
near this)
02
Alexandria (Main Street, Bank Street and
Mitchell Way) 03
Q8. How often do you visit your local town centre?
Daily 01
2-3 times a week 02
Once a week 03
2-3 times a month 04
Once a month 05
Less than once a month 06
Never 07
Q9. How important do you think it is to have a vibrant town centre?
Very important 01
Quite important 02
Not very important 03
Not important at all 04
Don’t know 05

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Q10. How important are the following in a vibrant town centre?
Very
important
Quite
important
Not very
important
Not
important at
all
Don’t
know
Wide range of shops 01 02 03 04 05
Fast food outlets 01 02 03 04 05
Pharmacy/health facilities 01 02 03 04 05
Pubs 01 02 03 04 05
Charity shops 01 02 03 04 05
Cafes and restaurants 01 02 03 04 05
Betting offices 01 02 03 04 05
Libraries/museums/art
galleries
01 02 03 04 05
Banks 01 02 03 04 05
Good quality shops 01 02 03 04 05
Pay day lenders/pawn
brokers
01 02 03 04 05
Green/open spaces 01 02 03 04 05
‘Pound’ shops 01 02 03 04 05
Leisure facilities (cinema
etc)
01 02 03 04 05
Local Government/civic
uses
01 02 03 04 05

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Q11. Thinking of your own town centre, how satisfied or dissatisfied are you with the
following
Very
Satisfied
Quite
Satisfied
Neither
satisfied
nor
dissatisfied
Quite
dissatisfie
d
Very
dissatisfied
Don’t
Know
The range of shops 01 02 03 04 05 06
Fast food outlets 01 02 03 04 05 06
Pharmacy/health
facilities
01 02 03 04 05 06
Pubs 01 02 03 04 05 06
Charity shops 01 02 03 04 05 06
Cafes and
restaurants
01 02 03 04 05 06
Betting offices 01 02 03 04 05 06
Libraries
/museums/art
galleries
01 02 03 04 05 06
Banks 01 02 03 04 05 06
Good quality shops 01 02 03 04 05 06
Pay day
lenders/pawn
brokers
01 02 03 04 05 06
Green/open spaces 01 02 03 04 05 06
‘Pound’ shops 01 02 03 04 05 06
Leisure facilities
(cinema etc)
01 02 03 04 05 06
Local
Government/
civic uses
01 02 03 04 05 06

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Pay Day Lenders/Pawn Brokers
Q12. To what extent do you agree or disagree with the following statements about pay day
lenders/pawn brokers in your town centre?
Strongly
agree
Agree Disagree Strongly
disagree
Don’t know
They are important
because they help to fill
vacant premises
01 02 03 04 05
They charge very high
interest rates
01 02 03 04 05
They make an
important contribution
to the area by paying
business rates
01 02 03 04 05
They make it too easy
for vulnerable people to
get a loan
01 02 03 04 05
They add to the
vitality/vibrancy of the
town centre
01 02 03 04 05
There are too many of
them
01 02 03 04 05
They provide an
important service for
those who can’t access
mainstream financial
institutions
01 02 03 04 05
They attract the wrong
type of people into the
town/put others off
01 02 03 04 05
They are a valuable
employer in the town
centre
01 02 03 04 05
They are not good for
the well being of the
community
01 02 03 04 05

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Betting Offices
Q13. To what extent do you agree or disagree with the following statements about betting
offices (‘bookies’) in your town centre?
Strongly
agree
Agree Disagree Strongly
disagree
Don’t
know
They are important
because they help to fill
vacant premises
01 02 03 04 05
They make it too easy to
gamble
01 02 03 04 05
They make an important
contribution to the area
by paying business rates
01 02 03 04 05
There are too many of
them
01 02 03 04 05
They add to the
vitality/vibrancy of the
town centre
01 02 03 04 05
They attract the wrong
type of people into the
town/put others off
01 02 03 04 05
They provide an
important service for
those who like to gamble
01 02 03 04 05
They are not good for
the well being of the
community
01 02 03 04 05
They are a valuable
employer in the town
centre
01 02 03 04 05

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Q14. To what extent are you concerned about the number and clustering of pay day
lenders
and betting offices in your town centre?Very
Concerned
Quite
Concerned
Note Very
Concerned
Not
Concerned
at all
Don’t
know
The overall number
of pay day lenders
and betting offices
in the town centre
01 02 03 04 05
The clustering of pay
day lenders and
betting offices in
particular parts of the
town centre
01 02 03 04 05
Q15. What would be the effect of more pay day lenders and betting offices being opened in
your town centre? Please state whether you agree or disagree with the following
statements
Very
Concerned
Quite
Concerned
Note Very
Concerned
Not
Concerned
at all
Don’t
know
It would have a
detrimental
effect on the vitality
and vibrancy of the
town centre
01 02 03 04 05
It  wouldIt would
improve the vitality
and  vibrancyand
vibrancy  of  the 
town centre by
01 02 03 04 05
It  wouldIt would  be 
bad  for  the health
and well
beingwellbeing of the
community
01 02 03 04 05
Q16. To what extent do you agree the Council should be able to restrict the number and
clustering of pay day lenders and betting offices in your town centre?
Strongly
agree
Agree Disagree Strongly
disagree
Don’t know
01 02 03 04 05

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Q17. The Council has limited powers to address the number and clustering of pay day
lenders andbettingand betting offices in town centres.
One option would be to introduce planning policies so the Council would have
stronger control over the change of a use of a property into a pay day lender or a
betting office.
To what extent would you support this option?
Strongly
support
support oppose Strongly
oppose
Don’t know
01 02 03 04 05

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Appendix 2: Citizens Panel
Results 2023

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2023 Citizens Panel Survey Results – Pay Day Lending and Betting Shops
Questionnaires were sent out to the members of the citizens panel via an online
questionnaire. 282 responses were received..received.
The questions were a copy of a selection of questions from the citizens panel survey
undertaken in 2015, which provides the background for the original 2016 guidance.
While this citizenscitizen’s panel survey could not include all the questions of the
original survey, the included questions were used to gauge if attitudes towards
Payday lending/pawn shops and betting offices had changed. In the original survey
specific questions on hot food takeaways were not included. For consistency Hot
food takeaway questions were the same as pay day lending and betting shop
questions.
Alongside the results to each question there will be a comparison made to the results
to the same question in the original 2015 survey.
Town Centres
Which of the following do you regard as your local town centre
Dumbarton Clydebank Alexandria
80 137 65
28% 49% 23%
Almost half of respondents (49)%49) % considered Clydebank their local town
centre. Slightly over a quarter of respondents (28%) considered Dumbarton their
local town centre and slightly under a quarter of respondents (23%) considered
Alexandria their local town centre.
Importance to a vibrant town centre
Very
important
Quite
Important
Not very
important
Not
Important
at all
Don't
know
Betting offices 1% 5% 24% 62% 7%
Pay day lending/pawn
shops
1% 3% 17% 71% 8%
Pay day lending and betting shops were generally unimportant to a vibrant town
centre. Pay day lending/pawn shops had the strongest negative response, with 71%
of respondents stating they were “not important at all” and 17% saying they were
“not very important”. The response to betting offices was also negative overall, but
less strong with 62% of respondents stating they were “not important at all” and 24%
saying they were “not very important”. 
The negative response to Pay day lending/pawn brokers in the 2023 survey was
stronger than in the 2015 survey, with 14% more respondents stating they were “not
important at all”. A similar proportion of respondents stated they were “very
important” or “quite important” in each survey and there was 5% increase in those
stating “don’t know” in the 2023 survey.
The response to betting offices in the 2023 survey was similar to the 2015 survey,
however in the 2016 survey 6% more respondents saidsaid, “don’t know”.
“Very important” aspects of a town centre
Dumbarton Clydebank Alexandria
Hot food takeaways 11% 7% 8%

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Betting offices 3% 1% 0%
Pay day lending/pawn
shops
1% 1% 0%
Very few respondents stated that any of the premises asked about were “very
important”. A similar proportion of respondents stated that pay day lending/pawn
shops and betting offices were “very important” in 2015 and 2023.
Pay Day lenders/Pawn Brokers
Do you agree or disagree with the following statements about pay day lenders/pawn
brokers in your town centre
Strongly
Agree
Agree Disagree Strongly
Disagree
Don't
know
Important because
they help to fill
vacant premises
2% 8% 30% 51% 9%
Charge very high
interest rates
47% 22% 3% 6% 23%
Perform a valuable
contribution to the
area by paying
business rates
2% 20% 25% 31% 22%
Make it too easy for
vulnerable people to
get a loan
54% 28% 1% 6% 11%
Add to the
vibrancy/vitality of
the town centre
1% 5% 24% 61% 9%
There are too many
of them.
37% 29% 6% 4% 23%
Provide an
important service to
those who can't
access mainstream
finance
4% 24% 24% 27% 21%
Attract anti-social
behaviour/put others
off.
21% 28% 13% 4% 34%
Are a valuable
employer in the
town centre
2% 13% 32% 26% 27%
Are not good for the
wellbeing of the
community
35% 31% 6% 8% 19%
While the exact proportion of responses differ between the 2015 and 2023 surveys
the same general trends appeared, specifically agreement or strong agreement that:
 Make it  tooit too  easy for  vulnerable  people to get a loan  (90% agreed  with
this statement in 2015 and 82% in 2023);
 Charge very high interest rates (76% agreed  withagreed with this statement

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in 2015 and 69% in 2023);
 There are too many of them (71% agreed  withagreed with this statement in
2015 and 66% in 2023);
 They are not good for the well beingwellbeing of the community (71% agreed
with this statement in 2015 and 71% in 2023).
In most cases agreement was lower in 2023 than in 2015, however there is still a
majority agreement.
There is still a majority disagreeing with the following statements about Pay day
lenders/pawn brokers:
 they add to the vibrancy of the town centre (92% disagreed in 2015 and 85%
in 2023);).
 important for filling vacant premises (88% disagreed this was important in
2015 and 85% in 2023);).
 They perform a valuable contribution to business rates (62% disagreed with
this statement in 2015 and 56% in 2023).
Respondents who agree or strongly agree with the following statements about pay
day lenders/pawn shop
Dumbarton Clydebank Alexandria
Important because they
help to fill vacant premises
10% 12% 9%
Charge very high interest
rates
76% 64% 69%
Perform a valuable
contribution to the area by
paying business rates
20% 25% 20%
Make it too easy for
vulnerable people to get a
loan
88% 79% 83%
Add to the vibrancy/vitality
of the town centre
5% 7% 5%
There are too many of
them.
63% 72% 58%
Provide an important
service to those who can't
access mainstream finance
18% 31% 37%
Attract anti-social
behaviour/put others off.
53% 49% 43%
Are a valuable employer in
the town centre
13% 17% 15%
Are not good for the
wellbeing of the community
66% 69% 63%
Betting Offices
Do you agree or disagree with the following statements about Betting Offices
Agree Strongly
Agree
Disagree Strongly
Disagree
Don't
know
Are important because 16% 3% 36% 38% 7%

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they help to fill vacant
premises
Make it too easy to
gamble
30% 48% 11% 3% 7%
Make an important
contribution to the area
by paying business rates
32% 2% 26% 19% 21%
Are too many of them 32% 38% 9% 2% 18%
Add to the vitality/
vibrancy of the town
centre
9% 1% 41% 38% 11%
Attract anti-social
behaviour/put others off.
29% 22% 18% 2% 28%
Provide an important
service for those who like
to gamble
36% 5% 22% 21% 16%
Are not good for the
wellbeing of the
community
33% 35% 10% 5% 16%
Are a valuable employer
in the town centre
24% 4% 23% 24% 25%
While the exact proportion of responses differ between the 2015 and 2023 surveys
the same general trends appeared, specifically agreement or strong agreement that:
 There are too many of them (80% of participants agreed or strongly agreed in
2015 and 70% in 2023)
 They make it too easy to gamble (79% of participants agreed or strongly
agreed in 2015 and 78% in 2023)
 They are not good for the wellbeing of the community (66% of participants
agreed or strongly agreed in 2015 and 68% in 2023)
There was mostly disagreement or strong disagreement that
 They added  vitalityadded vitality  and  vibrancy  to  their  town  centre  (85% 
disagreed in 2015 and 71% in 2023)
 They were important because they help to fill vacant premises (81%
disagreed in 2015 and 74% in 2023)
Respondents who agree or strongly agree with the following about betting offices:
Dumbarton Clydebank Alexandria
Are important because
they help to fill vacant
premises
24% 17% 15%
Make it too easy to
gamble
83% 77% 74%
Make an important
contribution to the area by
35% 31% 42%

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paying business rates
Are too many of them 65% 74% 71%
Add to the
vitality/vibrancy of the
town centre
14% 7% 11%
Attract anti-social
behaviour/put others off.
51% 55% 43%
Provide an important
service for those who like
to gamble
45% 37% 45%
Are not good for the
wellbeing of the
community
64% 74% 65%
Are a valuable employer
in the town centre
34% 23% 32%
There
The Number of Pay Day Lenders/Pawn Shops and Betting offices
Are you concerned about the number and clustering of pay day lenders and betting
offices in your town centre?
Not
concerned
at all
Not very
concerned
Quite
concerned
Very
concerned
Don't
know
Number of betting
offices in the town
centre
5% 20% 40% 26% 8%
Number of pay day
lending/pawn shops
in the town centre
5% 19% 39% 23% 14%
Over 60% or respondents were either quite concerned or very concerned about the
number of pay day lending/pawn shops and betting offices in their town centre in the
2023 survey. This is the majority of respondents however the proportion of
respondents concerned is down from 75% in the 2015 survey
Respondents who are “quite concerned” or “very concerned” about the number of
pay day lending and betting offices
Dumbarton Clydebank Alexandria
Betting offices 54% 72% 71%
Pay day
lending/pawn shops
46% 72% 62%
Respondents in Clydebank and Alexandria were significantly more concerned than

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respondents in Dumbarton
Effect of more pay day lending and betting in the Town Centre
Strongly
Agree
Agree Disagree Strongly
Disagree
Don't
know
Would have a
detrimental effect
oneffect on  the 
vitality  and
vibrancy of the
town centre
45% 38% 2% 1% 13%
Would improve
the vitality and 
vibrancyand  
ofvibrancy of  the
town centre by
increasing footfall
3% 4% 43% 38% 12%
Would  beWould
be  bad  for  the
health and well
beingwellbeing of
the community
40% 41% 4% 0% 15%
Respondents in 2023 had a similar view to respondents in 2015, that more pay day
lenders and betting would be detrimental to the town centre and bad for the health
and wellbeing of the community. 
Agree or strongly agree with statements on the effect of more pay day lending and
betting on town centres
Dumbarton Clydebank Alexandria
Would have a detrimental effect  oneffect
theon   vitalitythe   andvitality and
vibrancy of the town centre
83% 81% 89%
Would improve the vitality and 
vibrancyand   ofvibrancy   theof   townthe
town centre by increasing footfall
9% 8% 3%
Would  beWould   badbe bad  for  the
health and well beingwellbeing of the
community
84% 80% 82%
The proportion of users of different town centres agreeing or strongly agreeing with
all of the above statements is very similar. A slightly larger proportion of users of
Alexandria town centre agreed they would have a detrimental effect on vitality and
vibrancy of the town centre. A slightly lower proportion of users of Alexandria town
centre agreed they would improve vibrancy and vitality by increasing footfall.

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Appendix 3: Betting Office
and Pay day loan customer
count
Introduction
This research provides background information in support of the Pay Day Lending and Betting
Shops Planning Guidance. The guidance will assist in the decision making of planning
applications for pay day lending and betting shops.
It was considered it would be useful to  establishto establish what contribution pay day
lending  and betting shops make to footfall in Clydebank and Dumbarton town centres in
comparison
to other town centre uses.
Survey methodology
A total of 6 units were surveyed in each town centre across the typical shopping hours of
9.30am - 5.30pm and extended to count evening footfall generated by betting shops. This
was carried out on a Thursday 10th September and Saturday 12th September in Clydebank;
and Saturday 19th September and Thursday 1st October in Dumbarton; two days for each
town centre. Of the 6 units surveyed in each town centre, a betting office and pay day lender
were included, as well as 4 other retail/commercial related uses (see charts below). The
method was to count the number of people entering each unit, with some exclusions such as
young children, staff and postal workers. Surveys were based on a 10 minute10-minute count
per unit per hour, and therefore do not reflect the actual footfall count for the day. However,
the results have been weighted to reflect what an average count for the day would have
been, based on the
10-minute results. The weighted results can be seen in the charts below.
A further evening count of the betting offices was undertaken to gauge footfall coming into
the centre after normal shop opening hours.
The survey was undertaken by Council staff.
Footfall results
Figures 1 and 2 show the Clydebank results for each day. On Thursday the betting office
was the fourth busiest shop, with the charity shop, newsagent and bakery attracting more
customers. On Saturday, the betting office was the 2nd busiest unit, with the highest number
of customers visiting the newsagent.
For both survey days, the pawnbroker attracted the least customers of all six units. It should be
noted that the bank on both days closed earlier than the other stores (4.30pm on Thursday and

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3.30pm on Saturday), as did the pawnbroker on the Thursday count (4.30pm). Results have
been weighted to reflect the average count for that day
Figure 1
*Bank and Pawnbroker closed during last hour of count (4.30pm - 5.30pm)

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1Figure 2
*Bank closed during last two hours of count (3.30pm - 5.30pm)
Figures 3 - 5 show the results for Dumbarton. Thursday’s footfall was of a similar pattern to
Clydebank, the betting shop was the fourth busiest unit when compared to the others. On
Saturday morning the betting shop faired the busiest with higher footfall than the other units
surveyed. In the afternoon this dropped to the third highest footfall.
The pawnbroker took the second lowest footfall on Thursday with only the card shop taking
less. On Saturday the pawnbroker had the lowest footfall for both morning and afternoon.
There are two separate charts displayed for Saturday. This is due to the bank closing at
midday, and for the afternoon a public house was surveyed instead.
Figure 3

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Figure 4
Figure 5
Evening count
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typical closing hours of other stores. Betting shops in both town centres were open late into the
evening.
In Clydebank two betting shops were surveyed for half hour periods between 5.30pm and  7and
7pm on Thursday 12 September.
In Dumbarton. A single betting shop was surveyed between 5.30pm and 7.00pm on Thursday 1
October, with numbers recorded for half hour periods.
Summary
From the results above, it is demonstrated that the betting offices attract a similar and at times
higher footfall than that of other high street retailers/commercial users. It is also evident that such
uses attract footfall into the early evening.
Generally speaking, the pawnbrokers did not have many customers in comparison to other high
street occupiers.

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Customer count - actual recorded
results
Clydebank: Thursday 10th September
Weather conditions: Good, generally sunny throughout
Hour: 9.30 - 10.30 Hour: 10.30 - 11.30 Hour: 11.30 - 12.30
Unit Tally Unit Tally Unit Tally
Clydesdale Bank 7 Clydesdale Bank 5 Clydesdale Bank 3
Paddy Power 4 Paddy Power 8 Paddy Power 11
British Heart Foundation 5 British Heart Foundation 13 British Heart Foundation 22
H & T Pawn 2 H & T Pawn 1 H & T Pawn 3
RS McColl 14 RS McColl 11 RS McColl 16
Greggs 8 Greggs 11 Greggs 22
Hour: 12.30 - 13.30 Hour: 13.30 - 14.30 Hour: 14.30 - 15.30
Unit Tally Unit Tally Unit Tally
Clydesdale Bank 7 Clydesdale Bank 4 Clydesdale Bank 4
Paddy Power 10 Paddy Power 8 Paddy Power 5
British Heart Foundation 12 British Heart Foundation 7 British Heart Foundation 3
H & T Pawn 1 H & T Pawn 2 H & T Pawn 2
RS McColl 14 RS McColl 10 RS McColl 7
Greggs 18 Greggs 13 Greggs 3
Hour: 15.30 - 16.30 Hour: 16.30 - 17.30
Unit Tally Unit Tally
Clydesdale Bank 10 Clydesdale Bank   CLOSED
Paddy Power 2 Paddy Power 5
British Heart Foundation 2 British Heart Foundation 1
H & T Pawn 1 H & T Pawn   CLOSED
RS McColl 9 RS McColl 10
Greggs 3 Greggs 3
Clydebank: Thursday 10th September, evening count
Weather conditions: Good, light
Time
17.30 - 18.00
Unit
Ladbrokes
Tally
9
18.00 - 18.30 Paddy Power 10
18.00 - 18.30 Ladbrokes 3

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Customer count -actual recorded
results
Clydebank: Saturday 12th September
Weather conditions: Overcast, occasional rain
Hour: 9.30 - 10.30 Hour: 10.30 - 11.30 Hour: 11.30 - 12.30
Unit Tally Unit Tally Unit Tally
Royal Bank of Scotland 16 Royal Bank of Scotland 13 Royal Bank of Scotland 16
Paddy Power 5 Paddy Power 17 Paddy Power 16
British Heart Foundation 6 British Heart Foundation 12 British Heart Foundation 10
H & T Pawn 1 H & T Pawn 0 H & T Pawn 2
RS McColl 21 RS McColl 21 RS McColl 22
Greggs 6 Greggs 10 Greggs 12
Hour: 12.30 - 13.30 Hour: 13.30 - 14.30 Hour: 14.30 - 15.30
Unit Tally Unit Tally Unit Tally
Royal Bank of Scotland 10 Royal Bank of Scotland 6 Royal Bank of Scotland 13
Paddy Power 17 Paddy Power 13 Paddy Power 22
British Heart Foundation 19 British Heart Foundation 16 British Heart Foundation 10
H & T Pawn 1 H & T Pawn 4 H & T Pawn 1
RS McColl 14 RS McColl 14 RS McColl 10
Greggs 8 Greggs 23 Greggs 7
Hour: 15.30 - 16.30 Hour: 16.30 - 17.30
Unit Tally Unit Tally
Royal Bank of Scotland
Paddy Power
x
4
Royal Bank of Scotland
Paddy Power
x 
13
British Heart Foundation 9 British Heart Foundation 9
H & T Pawn 0 H & T Pawn 1
RS McColl 13 RS McColl 12
Greggs 10 Greggs 5

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Customer count -actual recorded results
Dumbarton: Saturday 19th SeptemberWeather conditions: Cloudy
Hour: 9.30 - 10.30 Hour: 10.30 - 11.30 Hour: 11.30 - 12.30
Unit Tally Unit Tally Unit Tally
Ramsdens 1 Ramsdens 2 Ramsdens 4
Bank of Scotland 12 Bank of Scotland 17 Bank of Scotland 18
Superdrug 6 Superdrug 1 Superdrug 9
William Hill 14 William Hill 20 William Hill 27
Farmfoods 10 Farmfoods 2 Farmfoods 16
Hallmark & Thorntons 0 Hallmark & Thorntons 7 Hallmark & Thorntons 6
Hour: 12.30 - 13.30 Hour: 13.30 - 14.30 Hour: 14.30 - 15.30
Unit Tally Unit Tally Unit Tally
Ramsdens 4 Ramsdens 5 Ramsdens 0
Bank of Scotland 5 Bank of Scotland 3 Bank of Scotland 3
Superdrug 5 Superdrug 3 Superdrug 10
William Hill 8 William Hill 8 William Hill 6
Farmfoods 13 Farmfoods 12 Farmfoods 4
Hallmark & Thorntons 2 Hallmark & Thorntons 0 Hallmark & Thorntons 5
Hour: 15.30 - 16.30 Hour: 16.30 - 17.30
Unit Tally Unit Tally
Ramsdens 2 Ramsdens 0
Bank of Scotland 5 Bank of Scotland 2
Superdrug 5 Superdrug 4
William Hill 1 William Hill 4
Farmfoods 9 Farmfoods 7
Hallmark & Thorntons 4 Hallmark & Thorntons 1

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Customer count -actual recorded
results
Dumbarton: Thursday 1st October
Weather conditions: Foggy start, clear/sunny for remainder
Hour: 9.30 - 10.30 Hour: 10.30 - 11.30 Hour: 11.30 - 12.30
Unit Tally Unit Tally Unit Tally
Ramsdens 1 Ramsdens 0 Ramsdens 3
Bank of Scotland 16 Bank of Scotland 22 Bank of Scotland 12
Superdrug 2 Superdrug 8 Superdrug 6
Farmfoods 8 Farmfoods 10 Farmfoods 25
Hallmark & Thorntons 0 Hallmark & Thorntons 1 Hallmark & Thorntons 2
William Hill 1 William Hill 1 William Hill 2
Hour: 12.30 - 13.30 Hour: 13.30 - 14.30 Hour: 14.30 - 15.30
Unit Tally Unit Tally Unit Tally
Ramsdens 2 Ramsdens 3 Ramsdens 3
Bank of Scotland 18 Bank of Scotland 17 Bank of Scotland 7
Superdrug 9 Superdrug 8 Superdrug 9
Farmfoods 10 Farmfoods 20 Farmfoods 15
Hallmark & Thorntons 4 Hallmark & Thorntons 1 Hallmark & Thorntons 1
William Hill 6 William Hill 3 William Hill 11
Hour: 15.30 - 16.30 Hour: 16.30 - 17.30
Unit Tally Unit Tally
Ramsdens 0 Ramsdens 2
Bank of Scotland 9 Bank of Scotland 8
Superdrug 4 Superdrug 2
Farmfoods 15 Farmfoods 18
Hallmark & Thorntons 1 Hallmark & Thorntons 0
William Hill 3 William Hill 4
Dumbarton: Thursday 1st October, evening countWeather conditions: Good, light
Time
17.30 - 18.00
Unit
William Hill
Tally
10
18.00 - 18.30 William Hill 10

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18.00 - 18.30 William Hill 9