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APPROVED Minute of Joint Licensing Board and Forum - 14 November 2023 v2

West Dunbartonshire Council · 14 November 2023
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JOINT MEETING OF WEST DUNBARTONSHIRE LICENSING BOARD AND
LOCAL LICENSING FORUM 
At a Hybrid Joint Meeting of West Dunbartonshire Licensing Board and Local
Licensing Forum held in the Civic Space, 16 Church Street, Dumbarton on Tuesday,
14 November 2023 at 2.00 p.m. 
Present:  West Dunbartonshire Councillors Gurpreet Singh Johal, June
McKay (Chair of West Dunbartonshire Licensing Board), Chris
Pollock and Hazel Sorrell. 
Paul Smith, Premises Operator for late night Entertainment
(Chair of Licensing Forum)  
Peter Clyde, Licensing Standards Officer (LSO) West
Dunbartonshire Council 
Lawrence Knighton, Licensing Standards Officer (LSO), West
Dunbartonshire Council 
Pauline Orr Larking, Bonhill and Dalmonach Community Council 
Craig McLaughlin, Personal/Premises License Holder 
Arun Thapar, Personal/Premises License Holder 
John Struthers, Representative of Members Clubs  
Ryan Hegarty, Representative for Pubwatch Members  
Ronnie McColl, Personal/Premises License Holder 
Attending: Chris Kelly, Health Improvement Lead - Health and Social Care
Partnership; Michael McDougall, Depute Clerk to the Licensing
Board, West Dunbartonshire Council and Nicola Moorcroft and
Lynn Straker, Committee Officers. 
Apologies: Apologies for absence were intimated on behalf of Councillor
Lawrence O’Neill (West Dunbartonshire Council), Sergeant
David Holmes, Police Scotland and Isobel Plunkett,
Representative of Old Kilpatrick Community Council. 
Paul Smith in the Chair 
Mr Smith, Chair of Licensing Forum, welcomed everyone to the joint meeting. 
OPERATION OF THE LICENSING (SCOTLAND) ACT 2005 DURING THE
PREVIOUS 12 MONTH PERIOD 
Mr Smith, Chair and Mr McDougall, Depute Clerk to the Licensing Board advised
Members of the reason for the annual joint meeting of the Licensing Board and
Licensing Forum and also discussed the operation of the Licensing (Scotland) Act
2005 during the last 12 months.

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RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE LICENSING BOARD AND LICENSING FORUM 
Members considered the relationship between the Licensing Board and the
Licensing Forum during the previous 12 month period and the shared outcome of the
new Licensing Policy for the future. Mr McDougall emphasised the value of having
the Licensing Forum feed into the Licensing Board and gaining a well-rounded
perspective from various representatives in West Dunbartonshire. 
SCOTTISH GOVERNMENT CONSULTATION: MINIMUM UNIT PRICING –
CONTINUATION AND FUTURE PRICING 
Mr McDougall noted that the Scottish Government was consulting on the
continuation of minimum unit pricing and if continued, the future setting of a minimum
unit price. Mr McDougall undertook to keep both the Licensing Board and Licensing
Forum up to date. 
UPDATE FURTHER TO THE SCOTTISH GOVERNMENT’S
TRAINING/AWARENESS RAISING SESSION 
Mr McDougall provided a verbal update in relation to the Scottish Government's
efforts to further support local Licensing Forums on a non-legislative basis. 
MEETING OF THE LICENSING FORUM 
The meeting of the Licensing Forum convened at 2.21 p.m. with all those listed in the
sederunt present with the exception of Councillors Gurpreet Singh Johal and Hazel
Sorrell, West Dunbartonshire Council. 
Paul Smith in the Chair 
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING 
The Minutes of the Meeting of the Licensing Forum held on 29 August 2023 were
submitted and approved as a correct record. 
PROPOSAL FOR NEW MEMBER OF WEST DUNBARTONSHIRE LICENSING
FORUM 
The Licensing Standards Officers submitted a proposal for a new Member of West
Dunbartonshire Licensing Forum - Mr Ryan Hegarty.

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After discussion, Members of the Forum agreed to accept Mr Hegarty as a new
Member of the Forum as a Representative for Pubwatch Members.   
LICENSING STANDARDS OFFICERS – UPDATE 
The Licensing Standards Officers provided a verbal update on issues and events
that may be of interest to the Forum, highlighting the following:- 
• Festive Extensions to trade in December;
• Festive visits - upcoming inspections of high street on sales, festive vigilance
particularly with large supermarkets display areas;
• Assisting premises which has been having various issues; and
• Annual Fees - collection of annual fees going well, 38 reminder letters issued
recently, compliance notices will be issued to premises who have failed to
pay.    
UPDATE FROM POLICE SCOTLAND 
In his absence, the following update was provided by Sergeant David Holmes, Police
Scotland, on policing in the West Dunbartonshire area:- 
Activity within West Dunbartonshire since our last meeting at the end of
August 2023, nothing significant to report in respect of the operation of
licensed premises within West Dunbartonshire nor had the requirement to
carry out any formal intervention work during this period. 
We do continue to work in partnership with WDC Licensing Standards
Officer’s, to support the operation of premises within the area, through such
initiatives as Pubwatch etc., ensuring licensed premises continue to be
operated in a manner consistent with the 5 key Licensing Objectives. 
Since the last meeting, Police Scotland has conducted no fewer than 76
licensed inspections within West Dunbartonshire, supporting the licensing
trade and night time economy with an overt presence to detect and deter
offences and continue this work through focussed and intelligence led action
plans. 
We have attended no less than 32 incidents at licensed premises, which
predominantly involved theft of alcohol from off sale premises, disorderly
conduct/failing to quit with licensed premises and assault. 
From a prevention perspective, the Youth Engagement Officers continue to
work within schools, delivering educational talks and seminars in respect of
the dangers of alcohol/drug misuse and the use of vapes etc. 
Moving forward into the forthcoming period, we are supporting events
associated with the festive period and developing our festive policing plans,
due to the annual increase in demand during this period, especially at

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licensed premises due to additional party nights out and celebrations at this
time 
VERBAL UPDATE FROM NHS GREATER GLASGOW AND CLYDE/WEST
DUNBARTONSHIRE HEALTH AND SOCIAL CARE PARTNERSHIP 
Chris Kelly, Health Improvement Lead - Health and Social Care Partnership,
provided a verbal update on issues that may be of interest to Members with regards
to concerns with care in West Dunbartonshire, in particular in areas where
Overprovision has been highlighted as a concern. 
LICENSING (SCOTLAND) ACT 2005 – STATISTICAL INFORMATION:
PERSONAL AND PREMISES LICENCES 
Members were advised that premises and personal licence applications, in terms of
the Licensing (Scotland) Act 2005 for the period 29 August to 1 November 2023,
have been received as follows:- 
Premises Licence Applications   No.  
Applications for Premises Licences granted   268 
Applications for Premises Licences refused     13 
Applications for Premises Licences (Members’ Clubs) granted     32 
Applications for Major Variation of Premises Licence granted   212 
Applications for Variation of Premises Licence pending Hearings       3 
Applications for Provisional Premises Licence pending Hearings       1 
Application for Provisional Premises Licence (Members’ Club)       0 
Application for Temporary Premises Licence pending Hearing       0 
Application for Premises Licence pending       0 
Premises Licences revoked       0 
Personal Licence Applications   No. 
Applications for Personal Licences received   1594 
Personal Licences issued   1580 
Application for Personal Licence refused         4 
Application for Personal Licence revoked         3 
DATE OF NEXT MEETING 
It was agreed that the next meeting of the Licensing Forum would be held on
Tuesday, 5 March 2024 at 4.00 p.m. in the Civic Space as a Hybrid Meeting, with
Members having the option of attending in person in the Civic Space, 16 Church
Street, Dumbarton, or remotely via Zoom Video Conference. 
The meeting closed at 2.50 p.m.

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