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Agenda
Special Meeting
Educational Services Committee
Date:  Friday, 7 July 2023
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Time:  10:00
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Format:  Hybrid Meeting
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Contact:   Scott Kelly, Committee Officer
Tel: 01389 737220.  Email: scott.kelly@west-dunbarton.gov.uk
Dear Member
Please attend a special meeting of the Educational Services Committee as
detailed above.  
Members will have the option to attend the meeting remotely or in person at the Civic
Space, 16 Church Street, Dumbarton.
The business is shown on the attached agenda. 
Yours faithfully
PETER HESSETT
Chief Executive
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Distribution:
Councillor Clare Steel (Chair) Councillor Gordon Scanlan
Councillor Karen Conaghan  Councillor Hazel Sorrell
Councillor Gurpreet Singh Johal  Mrs Barbara Barnes
Councillor Daniel Lennie  Ms Kirsty Connolly 
Councillor David McBride  Mr Gavin Corrigan
Councillor Jonathan McColl Miss Cara Cusick MSYP
Councillor Michelle McGinty Miss Ellen McBride 
Councillor June McKay  Ms Hannah Redford
Councillor John Millar (Vice Chair) Ms Julia Strang
Councillor Lawrence O’Neill Miss Tian Qi Yu MSYP
Councillor Lauren Oxley  Vacancy
Councillor Martin Rooney
All other Councillors for information
Chief Education Officer 
Date of Issue: 16 June 2023
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EDUCATIONAL SERVICES COMMITTEE
FRIDAY, 7 JULY 2023
AGENDA
1 STATEMENT BY CHAIR – AUDIO STREAMING
The Chair will be heard in connection with the above.
2 APOLOGIES
3 DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST
Members are invited to declare if they have an interest in the item of business
on this agenda and the reasons for such declarations.
4 RECORDING OF VOTES
The Committee is asked to agree that all votes taken during the meeting will
be carried out by roll call vote to ensure an accurate record.
5 RESPONSE ON STATUTORY CONSULTATION TO  5 – 67
DISCONTINUE ARRANGEMENTS FOR THE PROVISION OF
TRANSPORT FOR PUPILS ATTENDING CATCHMENT
SCHOOLS 
Submit report by the Chief Education Officer informing of the outcome of the
statutory consultation exercise under the terms of the Schools (Consultation)
(Scotland) Act 2010 on the proposal to discontinue arrangements for the
provision of transport for pupils attending catchment schools.
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WEST DUNBARTONSHIRE COUNCIL
Report by Chief Education Officer 
Educational Services Committee – 7 July 2023
Subject: Response on Statutory Consultation to discontinue arrangements for
the provision of transport for pupils attending catchment schools
1. Purpose
1.1 The purpose of the report is to inform the Educational Services Committee of
the outcome from the statutory consultation under the terms of the Schools
(Consultation) (Scotland) Act 2010 on the proposal to discontinue
arrangements for the provision of transport for pupils attending catchment
schools.
2. Recommendation
2.1 It is recommended that the Committee:
(i) Notes the findings from the statutory consultation exercise and the
content of the associated Education Scotland report;
(ii) Agrees to keep the existing home to school distance of 1 mile for
primary schools and 2 miles for secondary schools as prescribed in the
existing school transport policy; and
(iii) Agrees to implement an alternative transport related saving
maximizing the use of the Under 22 Travel Pass scheme, in place of
Council provided travel passes.
3. Background
3.1 At the meeting on 8 March 2023, the Educational Services Committee
approved the launch of the statutory consultation document by the Chief
Education Officer under the terms of the Schools (Consultation) (Scotland)
Act 2010 on the proposal to discontinue arrangements for the provision of
transport for pupils attending catchment schools.
3.2 Committee further agreed that a report outlining the results of the
consultation and making appropriate recommendations be presented to a
meeting of the Educational Services Committee provisionally scheduled to
be held on Wednesday 5th July 2023, subsequently confirmed as Friday 7th
July 2023.
3.3 The consultation has been undertaken in accordance with the Schools
(Consultation) (Scotland) Act 2010 and copies of the proposal document were
made available to all stakeholders as prescribed by the Act.  The consultation
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ran from Thursday 9th March 2023 until Tuesday 9th May 2023, a total of 31
days when the schools were open for pupils.
4. Consultation Process / Considerations
4.1 The statutory consultation process was undertaken with a Proposal Paper
setting out the proposal on which the Council was consulting being published
on the Council’s website and stakeholders invited to participate in the
consultation exercise. An electronic link to the consultation page and
Proposal Paper, was issued by email to the consultees listed within the
document and was also published on the Council’s website and publicised
via the Council’s social media channels.
4.2 As part of the Council’s consultation process we undertook the following
activities:
• Publicising the consultation and dates of public meetings through the
Council’s website, through public notices in local newspapers and on
social media.
• Advising relevant stakeholders by email of the consultation and providing
an electronic link to the website.
• Holding a series of online and in-person public consultation meetings,
one in each of the three main population centres of Dumbarton,
Clydebank and the Vale of Leven.
• Utilising the Council’s consultation web page to make documentation on
the proposal, link to the online survey, background information and
details on how to participate in the survey available.
• Setting up a direct telephone line and email address to deal with queries.
4.3 Three public consultations meetings were held between 18 and 25 April
2023 to allow Officers to explain the proposal and enable interested parties
to make comment and ask questions regarding the proposal.
4.4 A total of 48 members of the public attended the public meetings in-person,
with a further 8 member of the public attending online. A representative from
Education Scotland was also in attendance at the Dumbarton meeting, as
part of their role in the statutory consultation process.  Minutes were taken at
all three meetings (Appendix 1, 2 and 3).  
4.5 An online survey was available during the consultation period, with 542
respondents registering.  In answer to the question “Do you agree that West
Dunbartonshire Council should bring transport provision for schools more in
line with the safe walking distance to school?”  347 (64%) stated ‘yes’, and
195 (36%) stated ‘no’. It should be noted however that this response did not
correspond with the comments received during the consultation. Comments
received in the online survey, by email and during the public meetings were
overwhelmingly against the proposed change. A total of 230 respondents
chose to provide a reason for their answer in the online survey. On closer
inspection, responses stating ‘yes’ did not reconcile with the comments
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offered. When viewing only the 230 responses who also commented, 26
were in favour (11.4%), with 203 (88.6%) being against the proposal. (one
comment was excluded, as the response was not a word).     
4.6 The main issues raised by participants in the consultation have been
grouped into headings below and the education response to the points
raised are detailed within the Consultation Report. 
• Safety
• Impact on attendance
• Time taken to walk to school
• Weather 
• Households with children attending different establishments
• Contracts for school transport
• Accessibility of consultation
• Identification and realization of benefits
• Provision of public transport
• Promise of provision of transport at the time of OLSP relocation 
• Equity of provision 
• Impact on denominational schools 
4.7 15 responses were received by email, and one response was made by
phone. Responses were also received from The Archdiocese of Glasgow of
the Roman Catholic Church, Strathclyde Partnership for Transport (SPT) and
First Bus. None of these responses supported the proposal. 
Education Scotland Report and Considerations 
4.8 The Schools (Consultation) (Scotland) Act 2010 requires HM Inspectors
from Education Scotland to be involved in the formal consultation proposal. 
The full report from Education Scotland (Appendix 6 of the Consultation
Report) was published on their website and also published as part of the
Consultation Report. 
4.9 As part of this process HM Inspectors undertook the following activities in
considering the educational aspect of the proposal: 
• attendance at a public meeting held on 18 April 2023 in connection with
the Council’s proposals; 
• consideration of all relevant documentation provided by the Council in
relation to the proposal, specifically the educational benefits statement
and related consultation documents, written and oral submissions from
parents and others; 
• consideration of further representations made directly to Education
Scotland on relevant educational aspects of the proposal; 
• visits to St Eunan’s Primary School, Knoxland Primary School,
Clydebank High School, St Peter the Apostle High School, Dumbarton
Academy, Vale of Leven Academy and Our lady and St Patrick’s High
School, including discussion with relevant consultees and; 
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• discussion with relevant consultees, including representatives from the
Archdiocese of Glasgow.
Education Scotland Summary and Recommendations
4.10 Education Scotland produced a report whose purpose is to provide an
independent and impartial consideration of West Dunbartonshire Council’s
proposal to alter arrangements for the provision of transport by West
Dunbartonshire Council for pupils attending mainstream schools. 
4.11 Within the report, Education Scotland concluded:
“In their proposal, West Dunbartonshire Council state that there will be
educational benefits gained through active travel. HM Inspectors agree that
the proposal is in line with national guidance and statutory walking distances.
HM Inspectors agree that there are potential benefits through active travel.
However, HM Inspectors do not agree that the Council have set out
sufficiently the potential educational benefits to address concerns raised by
stakeholders. Almost all stakeholders raised significant concerns. These
include the safety of children and young people while walking to and from
school, and the reliability, availability and capacity of public transport to meet
increased demand. Most stakeholders also have a concern that the
proposal, if implemented, would incur financial costs for families already
facing significant financial hardship. Stakeholders are also concerned about
the potential for lower attendance which will impact on attainment and
achievement. Should this proposal be agreed, it will be important for the
Council to work with stakeholders to address their concerns. 
The online survey main question may have been misunderstood by
respondents and therefore the outcome may not be accurate. The survey
responses do not fully reflect the comments or the issues raised by
stakeholders who met with HM Inspectors. The Council will need to consider
if this data should be used to inform the final decision.”
Next Steps
4.12 Response to the consultation was overwhelmingly negative, with
stakeholders raising significant concerns. As the grounds for the proposal
were based on a saving to the Council, a reasonable alternative would be
to maintain the existing home to school distance, but remove the provision
of bus passes by the Council for use on public service buses, requiring
children and young people who use public service buses to make use of
their Under 22 travel pass instead. In the exceptional circumstance where a
child or young person is unable to obtain or utilise an Under 22 Travel
Pass, the Council would ensure the young person was provided with
suitable support. This change would have no direct impact on stakeholders,
and save the Council in the region of £185,000 per annum. This would be
£15,000 short of the projected saving for 2023/24, and £115,000 short of
the projected saving for 2024/25. 
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Consultation Report 
4.13 The Council is required to prepare and publish its final Consultation Report
when the consultation exercise has been concluded.  In preparing the report,
the Council must consider the report from Education Scotland and other
responses to the consultation.  The consultation report must explain how the
Council has reviewed the proposal, a summary of the points raised during
the consultation and the Council’s response to them. It should consider if
there are any other reasonable alternatives to the proposal.   
4.14 The Council is required to publish the Consultation Report and Educational
Services Committee cannot take a decision on whether to formally
implement a proposal until 3 weeks have elapsed from the date it publishes
the Consultation Report.  The Consultation Report was published on the
website on Friday 16 June 2023. 
5. People Implications 
5.1 There are no people implications within this report. 
6. Financial and Procurement Implications 
6.1 Not implementing the proposal would see the Council fail to make an
identified saving of £200,000 in 2023/24, and £300,000 in 2024/25. The
alternative suggested in 4.12 above would realize an annual saving of
£185,000 from 2023/24. This would be £15,000 short of the projected saving
for 2023/24, and £115,000 short of the projected saving for 2024/25. 
7. Risk Analysis 
7.1 HM Inspectors agree that the proposal is in line with national guidance and
statutory walking distances. HM Inspectors agree that there are potential
benefits through active travel. However, HM Inspectors do not agree that the
Council have set out sufficiently the potential educational benefits to address
concerns raised by stakeholders. Implementing the proposal of the statutory
consultation would bring financial hardship to families, impact on school
attendance and attainment and may indirectly influence parental choice of
school. 
8. Equalities Impact Assessment (EIA) 
8.1 This report was considered under the Council’s Equalities Impact
Assessment process. The Equalities Impact Assessment is included as
Appendix 2. 
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9. Consultation
9.1 Consultation on the proposed changes was undertaken in accordance with the
Schools (Consultation) (Scotland) Act 2010.
9.2 Legal Services and the Section 95 Officer have been consulted on the
content of this report.
10. Strategic Assessment
10.1 Undertaking a statutory consultation ensures we meet our
responsibilities as defined by the Schools (Consultation) (Scotland)
Act 2010. It works towards all three of the Community Planning
Partnership priorities of ‘empowered’, ‘sustainability’ and ‘wellbeing’
by ensuring that the views of local citizens are sought and
incorporated into our plans, and that we work to promote the
wellbeing of our children, young people and families.
Laura Mason
Chief Education Officer
Person to Contact: Andrew Brown, Senior Education Officer
andrew.brown@west-dunbarton.gov.uk
Appendices: Appendix 1 – Consultation Report 
Appendix 2 – Equalities Impact Assessment
Background Papers: Report and Proposal Paper submitted to Education
Committee on 08.03.2023
Equalities Impact Assessment No.749
Wards Affected: All wards
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West Dunbartonshire Council
Education, Learning and Attainment
REPORT ON THE OUTCOME OF THE CONSULTATION
RELATING TO THE PROPOSAL 
to discontinue arrangements for the provision of transport for pupils attending
catchment schools.
Published 16 June 2023
This report has been published by West Dunbartonshire Council in response to the
statutory consultation undertaken under the terms of the Schools (Consultation)
(Scotland) Act 2010.  The report will be published on the Council’s website for a
period of no less than 3 weeks prior to final consideration by the Educational
Services Committee on 7 July 2023.  
Appendix 1
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C O N T E N T S 
Section Title Page
Number/s 
1 Introduction 3 
2 Background 3 – 4 
3 The Consultation Process 4 – 5 
4 Public Consultation Meetings  5 – 6 
5 Responses to Consultation Exercise 6 – 8 
6 Summary of issues raised by stakeholders and
Education Authority response 
8 – 16 
7 Education Scotland Report and Education
Authority Response 
16 – 17 
8 Alleged Omissions or Inaccuracies 17 
10 Compliance with Section 9(1) of the Schools
(Consultation) (Scotland) Act 2010 
17
11 Legal Issues / Next Steps 18 
Appendix A  Dumbarton Public Consultation Meeting 
Appendix B  Clydebank Public Consultation Meeting 
Appendix C  Vale of Leven Public Consultation Meeting 
Appendix D  Submission from the Archdiocese of Glasgow of
the Roman Catholic Church 
Appendix E  Submission from Strathclyde Partnership for
Transport (SPT) 
Appendix F Education Scotland Report 
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1. INTRODUCTION 
1.1 This is a consultation response report prepared in compliance with the
Schools (Consultation) (Scotland) Act 2010 following consultation on the West
Dunbartonshire Council (The Council) proposal to discontinue arrangements
for the provision of transport for pupils attending catchment schools. 
1.2 The purpose of the response report is to: 
• Provide a record of the total number of responses made during the
Statutory Consultation period;
• Provide summary of the written responses;
• Provide details of oral representations made at the public meetings held
on 18, 19 and 25 April 2023;
• Provide a statement of the Council’s response to those written and oral
representations;
• Provide the full text of Education Scotland’s report and a statement of the
Council’s response to this report;
• State how the Council reviewed the above proposal following the
representations received during the Statutory Consultation period and the
report from Education Scotland;
• Provide details of any omission from, or inaccuracy in, the Proposal Paper
and state how the Council acted on it; and
• State how the Council has complied with Sections 11A to 13 of the
Schools (Consultation) (Scotland) Act 2010 when reviewing the above
proposals. 
2. BACKGROUND 
2.1 On 21 December 2022, Council approved a savings option to reduce School
Transport towards statutory limits taking account of safe routes to school and
increasing free bus pass update and work with bus companies to increase
provision at busy times. 
2.2 Because this saving option, if enacted, would involve discontinuing the
existing arrangements for the provision of transport to pupils attending
denominational schools, the Council was required to carry out a consultation
process as detailed in the Schools (Consultation) (Scotland) Act 2010,
Schedule 1, Paragraph 8 which states: 
“Transport to denominational school proposal to discontinue arrangements for
the provision of transport by the education authority for pupils attending a
denominational school.” 
2.3 On 8 March 2023 the Educational Services Committee agreed to commence
formal consultation on the proposal, and that a report outlining the results of
the consultation and making appropriate recommendations be presented to a
meeting of the Educational Services Committee that was provisionally
scheduled to be held on Wednesday 5 July 2023 (subsequently confirmed for
Friday 7 July 2023).
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2.4      THE PROPOSAL 
2.4.1 West Dunbartonshire Council proposed, subject to approval from Education Services
Committee and the outcome of the consultation process: 
• from August 2023, the discontinuation of the existing school transport
arrangements whereby any primary aged pupil who resides more than 1 mile
from their catchment school, and any secondary aged pupil who resides more
than 2 miles from their catchment school will be provided with transportation; 
• replacing the existing school transport arrangements with a revised home to
school distance, whereby any primary aged pupil who resides more than 2
miles from their catchment school, and any secondary aged pupil who resides
more than 3 miles from their catchment school will be provided with
transportation. 
3. THE CONSULTATION PROCESS 
3.1 The statutory consultation process, which requires the Council to adopt a
robust and transparent framework for school consultations was undertaken in
respect of the proposal. The consultation document developed for
consideration included information on the: 
• Proposal;
• Consultation process;
• Arrangements for public meetings;
• On how to participate in the consultation;
• Educational benefits of the proposal; and
• Consultation timeline 
3.2 An electronic link to the Proposal Paper was issued by email to the
stakeholders detailed within that document.  The Proposal Paper and details
of the consultation were made available on the consultation section of the
Council’s website: School Transport Consultation 
3.3 The Act requires a consultation period of at least 6 weeks which must include
at least 30 school days. The consultation period for this project was from
Thursday 9th March 2023 until Tuesday 9th May 2023 inclusive (the period
covered a total of 44 days to allow for the “clear days” rule and accommodate
13 days where schools were closed due to an in-service day, a long weekend
and the spring break). 
3.4 The requirements for consulting on a relevant proposal relating to schools are
set out in the Schools (Consultation) (Scotland) Act 2010 and the following
steps were taken to ensure compliance with the Act: 
• Proposal Paper published on Friday 24 March 2023.
• Statutory consultees were sent an email providing a link to the Proposal
Paper and details of where, and how to obtain a paper copy free of
charge and how to participate in the consultation.
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• Schools distributed details of the consultation to staff and
parents/carers.
• Proposal Paper published on the West Dunbartonshire Council website
and available in paper copy upon request, and information on the
consultation published on social media.
• Public notice in the ‘Dumbarton Reporter’ and ‘Clydebank Post’
newspapers advising of the consultation.
• Public consultation meetings were held on 18, 19 and 25 April 2023 to
facilitate participation, sharing of information and gathering views. 
• Education Scotland’s involvement consisted of: Proposal Paper being
sent to them, attendance at public consultation meetings, follow up
consultation meetings with Head Teachers, Pupils, Parent Council
representatives, and Church representatives.  Education Scotland were
also provided with copies of online survey results/comments, written
representations and minutes of the public meetings held which
contained oral representations. 
3.5 In accordance with statutory requirements and good practice, the following
relevant stakeholders were consulted: 
• Education Scotland;
• The Archdiocese of Glasgow of the Roman Catholic Church;
• the Parent Councils of West Dunbartonshire Primary and Secondary
Schools; 
• the parents/carers of pupils attending all West Dunbartonshire Primary and
Secondary Schools; 
• the parents/carers of any children expected by West Dunbartonshire
Council to attend the primary schools listed in section 4.1 above within two
years of the date of publication of this Proposal Document (with that date
of publication being defined in the table included in section 7.2 above),
including those pupils attending all private and voluntary pre-school
nurseries in the West Dunbartonshire area; 
• the pupils attending all West Dunbartonshire Primary and Secondary
Schools (insofar as this is possible and taking cognisance of the age and
maturity of the pupils); 
• the teaching and support staff of all West Dunbartonshire Primary and
Secondary Schools;
• the trade union representatives of the above staff; 
• the constituency MSPs; 
• the constituency MP; and 
• Neighbouring local authorities. 
4. PUBLIC CONSULTATION MEETINGS 
4.1 Three public consultation meetings were held, one in each of the main
population centres of Dumbarton, Clydebank and the Vale of Leven. 
4.2 The first meeting was held on 18 April 2023 in Our Lady & St. Patrick’s High
School (7.00 p.m. – 8.30 p.m.) with 30 members of the public, 5 staff
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members and an HM Inspector attending the meeting. It was also possible to
attend the meeting online, with 3 participants joining remotely. Notes from
this meeting are included as Appendix A. 
4.3 The second consultation meeting was held on 19 April 2023 in St Peter the
Apostle High School (7.00 p.m. – 8.30 p.m.) with 8 members of the public
and 4 staff members attending the meeting. It was also possible to attend
the meeting online, with 2 participants joining remotely. Notes from this
meeting are included as Appendix B. 
4.4 The third consultation meeting was held on 25 April 2023 in Vale of Leven
Academy (7.00 p.m. – 8.30 p.m.) with 10 members of the public and 4 staff
members attending the meeting. It was also possible to attend the meeting
online, with 3 participants joining remotely. Notes from this meeting are
included as Appendix C. 
5. RESPONSES TO THE CONSULTATION EXERCISE 
5.1 Members of the public were encouraged to respond to the consultation
through the online survey, by phone or in writing. 
5.2 A total of 542 respondents responded through the online survey as detailed
below. 
Are you a resident of West
Dunbartonshire?
Number of
responses
% of
responses
Yes 527 97.8%
No 12 2.2%
TOTAL 539 
5.3 A breakdown of category of interest from respondents is detailed below. 
From the options below, please
select the most appropriate one to
indicate your interest in this
consultation
Number of
responses
% of
responses
Child / Young Person in receipt of
school transport
97 18%
Child / Young Person not in receipt of
school transport
119 22%
Parent / Carer of child / young person in
receipt of school transport
111 20.6%
Parent / Carer of child / young person
not in receipt of school transport
180 33.3%
Member of teaching / non teaching staff 10 1.9%
Trade Union Representative 0 0%
Representative of School Parent
Council
4 0.7%
Other 13 2.4%
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TOTAL 540 
Note – ‘Other’ includes (‘Child who will eventually need transport’ (1),
‘Concerned Citizen’ (1), ‘Concerned Member of the public’ (1), ‘Concerned
Uncle’ (1), ’Grandparent’ (1), ‘Grandparent of child travelling from Old
Kilpatrick’ (1), ‘Interested individual’ (1), ‘Milton resident’ (1), ‘My daughter has
used the school bus before to Milton’ (1), ‘Parent’ (1), ‘Parent of child not yet
at school but will benefit from the transport currently offered when he does go’
(1), ‘Parent of future pupil’ (1), and ‘Relative of pupil’ (1)) 
5.4 A summary of the completed online responses to the consultation question
‘Do you agree that West Dunbartonshire Council should bring transport
provision for schools more in line with the safe walking distance to
school?’ is detailed below. Although the majority of the respondents stated
they were in favour of the proposal, this does not correspond with the
comments received, which is further explored in 5.5 below. 
Do you agree that West
Dunbartonshire Council should bring
transport provision for schools more
in line with the safe walking distance
to school?
Number of
responses
% of
responses
Yes 347 64%
No 195 36%
TOTAL 542 
5.5 A total of 230 respondents chose to provide a reason for their answer. On
closer inspection, responses stating ‘yes’ did not reconcile with the comments
offered. When viewing only the 230 responses who also commented, 26 were
in favour (11.4%), with 203 (88.6%) being against the proposal. (one comment
was excluded, as the response was not a word). 
If you wish, please provide a reason
for your answer:
Number of
responses
% of
responses
In favour of the proposal 26 11.4%
Against the proposal 203 88.6%
TOTAL 230 
It is clear from this that many respondents had misunderstood the question.
This was raised directly as a question at the Vale of Leven public consultation
meeting, but not at the Dumbarton or Clydebank meetings. 
5.6 With 230 responses, it was not possible to respond to each individually.
Instead, points raised across all the responses have been grouped into
themes below, with a response provided to the theme. 
5.7 There were 15 responses by email and 1 response by phone. No written
responses were received by post. The points raised in the responses have
been grouped with the responses to the online survey and the public
meetings, as the same themes were raised. We received a submission from
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the Archdiocese of Glasgow of the Roman Catholic Church and First Bus
during the consultation period, and a response from SPT received out with the
consultation period (which has been included). 
6. SUMMARY OF ISSUES RAISED BY STAKEHOLDERS AND EDUCATION
AUTHORITY RESPONSE 
6.1 From the 230 online response forms that included a comment, the points
raised at the public meetings and the submissions received by email, a
number of key themes emerged. The theme and response from Education
Services is detailed below. 
Theme 1: Safety 
The largest volume of concerns raised related safety. This took many forms,
whether it was safety of children and young people walking to school, the
routes that they would follow, the availability of suitable crossing points, the
speed of traffic on the roads, the suitability of footpaths, the impact of
weather, the seasonal variability of daylight, the provision of street lighting,
safety of children and young people from other pedestrians (including other
children), behavior of children and young people walking to school, gritting of
pavements during winter, assessments of safe routes, and independent
verification of safety assessments. 
Response: Where transport is not provided, it is the parents’ responsibility to
ensure their children and young people get to school. Only children and young
people who have the required road safety sense should walk to school
unaccompanied by an adult. A number of routes were regarded as unsafe to
walk by the roads team, and will therefore still be eligible for transport. Where
a route was regarded as safe to walk, this was due to the suitability of
footpaths, crossing points, lighting and gritting of pavements in winter. Where
routes were walked by the roads team, it is accepted that this was done at a
certain time of day, and did not experience the variety of seasonal conditions,
or the volume and behavior of young people also walking the same route. This
also did not account for carrying equipment/musical instruments to and from
school. It was suggested that independent verification of safety assessments
should be provided, but this was not the view of corporate health and safety. 
Theme 2: Impact on Attendance 
Many respondents raised the issue of the impact the increased walking
distance would have on attendance. With a greater distance to walk to school,
many pupils will simply not attend school on the days where weather is wet or
clothing was wet from the day before, or days that they cannot take another
form of transportation.   
Response: This is an existing risk for children and young people who already
walk to school, but it is accepted that the proposed change may increase the
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number of children and young people affected. Schools and central staff will
monitor attendance of affected children and young people to ascertain if this
presents as a pattern or has an impact. 
Theme 3: Time taken to walk to school 
Increasing the distance from 2 miles to 3 miles for secondary age pupils will
see some young people having to walk for two hours each day on their
journeys to and from school. This has an impact on the length of their day, but
also on their preparedness – tiredness, providing suitable clothing and
footwear increases costs for households, and some young people have to
carry work/materials/sports equipment/musical instruments to and from
school. 
Response: The 2 miles distance from primary and 3 miles distance from
secondary is suggested by the Scottish Government as being a safe walking
distance. For those not used to walking such distances each day, it will initially
have an impact on energy levels, but regular exercise has been proven to
impact positively on mental and physical health. It is accepted that carrying
some items to and from school without transportation will be challenging.
Providing suitable clothing for walking to and from school will place a burden
on households. Some schools already offer a second hand clothing bank
where items that no longer fit can be exchanged for others, and all schools
would be encouraged to offer similar. 
Theme 4: Weather 
With the weather frequently being wet, children and young people will now be
at greater risk of arriving at school wet, and having to sit through school with
wet shoes/clothes, only to then have to make the return journey home at the
end of the day in wet clothes. Providing suitable wet weather clothing and
footwear will negatively impact households financially, as will drying clothes
and footwear that has got wet in time for the next day. 
Response: This is presently a risk for anyone walking to school irrespective
of the proposed change, but a rise in the number of children and young
people walking to school would increase this, and increase the financial
pressure on households. Some schools already offer a second hand clothing
bank where items that no longer fit can be exchanged for others, and all
schools would be encouraged to offer similar. 
Theme 5: Households with children attending different establishments 
A number of households have children attending different establishments. It
will be impossible for some households to take a child to nursery whilst also
walking a child to primary school. 
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Response: For some households who have children attending multiple
establishments this is an existing challenge, irrespective of the change in
home to school distance, however the proposed change could see an
increase in the number of households affected. Some households choose to
ask family or friends to assist, or group together to share the journeys.
Nurseries, schools or Parent Council’s may be able to offer advice to
households looking to group together to share journeys. 
Theme 6: Contracts for school transport 
There are existing contracts in place for school transport, and some presently
being procured for replacement. Many respondents asked about the timescale
for changes, and the capacity of existing contracts to carry more children and
young people. 
Response: The proposal would see changes introduced in two phases – in
August 2023 ceasing the provision of WDC purchased travel passes for those
children and young people presently making use of public transport to get to
and from school, requiring them to make use of the Under 22 Travel Pass to
access the same service instead. The second phase in August 2024 would
see the removal of dedicated contracts for those children and young people
who would no longer be eligible. In effect, there would therefore be no
discernable difference for children, young people and families the school
session 2023-24, allowing a greater time to prepare for the change. 
Contracts would continue to operate for those children and young people that
would still be eligible for transport. Due to the size of vehicle used by
operators, some of these contracts run with spare capacity – where this
occurs, WDC offer a ‘privilege seats’, where children and young people can
make use of these spare seats at a cost. More information about privilege
seats can be found on our website at https://www.west-
dunbarton.gov.uk/schools-and-learning/schools/school-travel-and-
trips/school-transport/   
Theme 7: Accessibility of consultation 
A number of responses questioned how accessible the consultation was,
referring to publicity of the consultation, the accessibility of the materials
published and shared, and the locations of the public meetings. 
Response: The method of sharing consultation materials was agreed at
committee in March 23. Materials were publicized and shared on the website
and social media, and the public consultation were made available online. The
locations of the public meetings were chosen to ensure that there was a
public meeting in each of the main population centres of Dumbarton,
Clydebank and the Vale of Leven. Feedback gathered on the methods of
publicity will be used to inform future consultations.   
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Theme 8: Identification and realization of benefits 
A number of responses questioned the process to identify benefits, and
several responses questioned whether benefits would ever be realized. 
Response: Benefits were identified by Council Officers, and did not involve a
benefits workshop or scoring mechanism with stakeholders. It is conceded
that many of the benefits would only be realized if children and young people
swapped the existing bus journeys for a more active method of travel to and
from school. Without this, it is anticipated that vehicular traffic to and from
affected schools may increase. 
Theme 9: Provision of public transport 
A high number of respondents questioned the provision, availability and
suitability of public transport, as many felt that young people would make use
of this instead of walking to school, but many respondents felt that the
provision was insufficient. It was also suggested that provision of public
transport should be guaranteed prior to any change in the policy. 
Response: The intention of the change in policy would be to increase the
volume of active travel, but it is to be expected that any change would have
an impact on both the use of private vehicles and public transport. First Bus
responded directly to the consultation stating that ‘Any decision should not
assume that the required capacity on local service buses will automatically
exists or be provided. [We] would strike to accommodate any displaced pupils
within [our] existing timetables, however it is unlikely that additional journeys
would be provided given the cost to provide this and the variability of school
finish times throughout the week.’ Whilst the existing services offered would
be able to accommodate pupils in the Clydebank area making their way to
and from school, the provision in Dumbarton and the Vale of Leven would not.   
Theme 10: Promise of provision of transport at the time of OLSP relocation 
At the time of the consultation on the proposal to move Our Lady & St.
Patrick’s High School from the previous site in Castlehill to its existing site in
Bellsmyre assurances were made about the provision of transport for children
and young people from Dumbarton West – particularly the areas of Brucehill,
Castlehill and Westcliff and the surrounding streets that would qualify for
transportation to school. 
Response: The planning condition on the development of the existing OLSP
stipulated that a School Travel Plan and Workplace Travel Plan would be
produced and implemented. At the time it was noted that the eight services
transporting pupils to school would continue, but this was nine years ago, and
not a planning condition. 
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Theme 11: Equity of provision 
Due to the location of OLSP and the proposed 3 mile distance, privately
owned houses at the extremities of Dumbarton West will still qualify for school
transport, when local authority and housing association tenants in Brucehill,
Castlehill and Westcliff and the surrounding streets would not. 
Response: The 2 miles distance from primary and 3 miles distance from
secondary is suggested by the Scottish Government as being a safe walking
distance. The location of the school would always impact households on
either side of the 2 or 3 mile distance. Whilst it is true that the areas of
Brucehill, Castlehill and Westcliff would no longer qualify for transportation to
OLSP, there are many privately owned houses in the area also affected. 
Theme 12: Impact on denominational schools 
The legislation is there to ensure that any change does not adversely affect
denominational schools more than non-denominational schools. It is clear that
due to the size of their catchment areas, OLSP, St. Mary’s (Alexandria) and
St. Eunan’s are more affected than others. 
Response: Of the schools affected, OLSP shares the same catchment area
as both Dumbarton Academy and Vale of Leven Academy combined. The
change negatively impacts 130 young people (24.4%) transported to OLSP,
whilst 403 young people transported (75.6%) will still receive transportation.
Of those being transported to Vale of Leven Academy, 153 are negatively
impacted (83.2%), with 31 still receiving transportation (16.8%). Of the young
people transported to Dumbarton Academy, 5 will be negatively impacted
(22%), with 18 (78%) still receiving transportation.  Whilst a small number of
children would still be eligible for transport to Linnvale Primary due to the size
of the catchment area, no children would still be eligible for transport to St.
Eunan’s Primary, or St. Mary’s (Alexandria). It must be noted however that if
you live in West Dumbarton, Dumbarton Academy is physically closer than
OLSP, which may indirectly impact people’s choice of school. 
6.2 A written submission was received from the Archdiocese of Glasgow of the
Roman Catholic Church (Appendix D), who, for the following reasons, do not
agree with the proposal: 
1. The proposal would further disadvantage pupils who reside in SIMD 1 and 2
datazones by taking a blanket approach to distance – perhaps a clause that
allows pupils in these areas more support, considering their personal
circumstances, ensuring an equitable approach. 
a. Response: The proposal was based on home to school distance, and
not a change based on any other criteria.
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2. While you are encouraging ‘safe walking’ and list benefits of this, many
parents will not want their sons and daughters to undertake this mode of
travel for safety reasons. This may mean more car journeys or parents having
to accompany younger pupils on buses which may impact on their ability to
undertake employment thus causing further hardship. 
a. Response: It is conceded that many of the benefits would only be
realized if children and young people swapped the existing bus
journeys for a more active method of travel to and from school. Without
this, it is anticipated that vehicular traffic to and from affected schools
may increase. Parents having to accompany younger children on
buses may impact on their employment and cause further hardship. 
3. For some, if not travelling by bus, the journey to school will take longer. We
consider that this may mean increased absences from school particularly in
winter and inclement/cold weather. This may result in a fall in the attainment
of those pupils resulting in increased disadvantage for them. 
a. Response: This is an existing risk for children and young people who
already walk to school, but it is accepted that the proposed change
may increase the number of children and young people affected.
Schools and central staff will monitor attendance of affected children
and young people to ascertain if this presents as a pattern or has an
impact.  
4. If children are walking to school, they will require proper clothing for wet and
windy weather if they are to remain healthy and fit to learn. This will place
even more financial pressure on parents already struggling in our economic
climate. 
a. Response: This is presently a risk for anyone walking to school
irrespective of the proposed change, but a rise in the number of
children and young people walking to school would increase this, and
increase the financial pressure on households. Some schools already
offer a second hand clothing bank where items that no longer fit can be
exchanged for others, and all schools would be encouraged to offer
similar. 
5. It is recognised and appreciated that all young people between the ages of
five and twenty-two years in Scotland have access to free bus travel, which in
itself is a huge support to families. However, travelling by public transport at
peak school times will be problematic not only for pupils but for the wider
population, in terms of ease of access, reliability and safety. This may result in
increased late coming to schools at the start of the day and a later time home
for pupils thus increasing the length of their journeys and their overall ‘school’
day. 
a. Response: The proposal was based on children and young people
taking an active travel route to school, but it is conceded that many will
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look to make use of public transport. Whilst the existing services
offered would be able to accommodate pupils in the Clydebank area
making their way to and from school, we understand from local
providers that the provision in Dumbarton and the Vale of Leven would
not.   
6. Given that if this proposal is passed it will impact on the provision of buses
and bus timetabled, we note that the bus companies are not included in the
list of consultees. 
a. Response: School transport is procured through SPT, who responded
to the consultation. Some local operators responded through the
consultation exercise. 
7. That the two denominational secondary schools have a wider catchment area
that the non-denominational secondary schools. In fact, half of the population
of Our Lady and St Patrick’s High School will lose transport if your proposal
goes through. It may be that parents rather, than having their children travel
the new distance by foot or public transport, may feel forced to decide to send
their son or daughter to the nearest non-denominational school. This could be
regarded as indirect discrimination by the Council towards Catholic pupils. 
a. Response: Due to assessments of safe walking routes, 403 young
people presently transported to OLSP (75.6%) will still receive
transportation, with 130 young people (24.4%) no longer being eligible.
From the 3 mile boundary of OLSP in West Dumbarton, it is only 2.1
miles to Dumbarton Academy, so it is accepted that it would be quicker
and easier to travel to the non-denominational school than the
denominational school. 
8. At a reasonable pace an adult will walk 3 miles in one hour. This means that
some secondary aged pupils will be adding 2 hours onto their school day.
This will impact on their capacity to remain in school for clubs, supported
study and on their opportunity to do homework. 
a. Response: Increasing the distance for eligibility will impact on the
length of time taken to get to school. The existing provision of school
transport impacts on the potential of after-school clubs, as buses leave
the school at a specific time. 
9. While the intention to encourage walking to school is admirable, there is
concern that removing organised school transport will only increase private
cars, with parents (who have cars) choosing to drive their children to school,
thus causing congestion and pollution at peak times. 
Response: It is conceded that many of the benefits would only be realized
if children and young people swapped the existing bus journeys for a more
active method of travel to and from school. Without this, it is anticipated
that vehicular traffic to and from affected schools may increase, resulting
in greater congestion and pollution and peak times. 
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6.3 Submissions were also received from First Bus during the consultation period,
and from Strathclyde Partnership for Transport (SPT) (Appendix E) after the
consultation period had ended. The main points raised by First Bus and SPT
are outlined below: 
1. First Bus responded stating that ‘Any decision should not assume that the
required capacity on local service buses will automatically exists or be
provided. [We] would strike to accommodate any displaced pupils within [our]
existing timetables, however it is unlikely that additional journeys would be
provided given the cost to provide this and the variability of school finish times
throughout the week.’ 
a. Response: The Council welcomes the responses from First Bus notes
that whilst the existing services offered would be able to accommodate
pupils in the Clydebank area making their way to and from school, we
understand from local providers that the provision in Dumbarton and
the Vale of Leven would not. 
2. SPT responded suggesting that an Equalities Impact Assessment be
undertaken prior to any change in policy to ensure that the travel needs of
children and young people were understood, the sustainable transport and
transport infrastructure were assessed, and that the strategy develops
sustainable travel and transport infrastructure in West Dunbartonshire. 
a. Response: An EIA has been undertaken in relation to this proposal. 
3. SPT welcomed the Council’s reference to safety in the proposal and
considered this to be the most critical factor in decision making. An analysis of
increase in car journeys should be undertaken if the change is implemented,
as well as ensuring that it is not a blanket introduction of the change in
eligibility, but that safety of individual routes is taken into consideration. It may
be that additional infrastructure to promote active travel is required prior to the
implementation of any change. 
a. Response: It is anticipated that vehicular traffic to and from affected
schools may increase, resulting in greater congestion and pollution and
peak times. A survey of this would be undertaken, with a view to any
change measures being implemented. Individual routes have been
assessed by the roads team to determine suitability. Regular reviews of
schools Travel Plans would accommodate any change in infrastructure
at school level, and would fit with the wider Council objective to
promote sustainability. 
4. SPT highlighted the potential increase in demand for public transport services.
Prior to the implementation of any change, the Council should confirm through
dialogue with local operators whether the existing infrastructure would be able
to accommodate the increase in demand, or whether they would seek to
strengthen provision to meet this need. The Council should engage with
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Sustrans and continue to promote the uptake of the Under 22 Travel pass
scheme. 
a. Response: First bus also responded to the consultation. Whilst the
existing services offered would be able to accommodate pupils in the
Clydebank area making their way to and from school, we understand
from local providers that the provision in Dumbarton and the Vale of
Leven would not. The Council continue to engage with Sustrans to
develop sustainable infrastructure and to support active travel. The
Council has a high uptake of the Under 22 Travel pass scheme, with
direct intervention in our schools by partners to target individual young
people who are yet to benefit from the scheme.   
7. EDUCATION SCOTLAND REPORT AND EDUCATION AUTHORITY
RESPONSE 
7.1 In accordance with the Schools (Consultation) (Scotland) Act 2010, a report
was produced by Education Scotland on the educational aspects of the
proposal.  Education Scotland agree that the proposal is in line with national
guidance and statutory walking distances. Education Scotland also agree that
there are potential benefits through active travel, but do not agree that the
Council have set out sufficiently the potential educational benefits to address
concerns raised by stakeholders. 
7.2 The Education Scotland report can be read in full in Appendix F, and the
summary conclusions from the report are presented below. 
7.3 The Council welcomes the report from Education Scotland and accepts its
response to the Council’s proposal.  The report highlighted that almost all
stakeholders raised significant concerns. These include the safety of children
and young people while walking to and from school, and the reliability,
availability and capacity of public transport to meet increased demand. Most
stakeholders also have a concern that the proposal, if implemented, would
incur financial costs for families already facing significant financial hardship.
Stakeholders are also concerned about the potential for lower attendance
which will impact on attainment and achievement. Should this proposal be
agreed, it will be important for the Council to work with stakeholders to
address their concerns. 
• Response: The safety of children and young people walking to and
from school; the reliability, availability and capacity of public transport
to meet increased demand; the financial impact on families already
facing significant financial hardship; and the impact on attendance and
attainment were amongst the themes identified by stakeholders during
the consultation. A number of walking routes were identified as not
being safe, so in these instances transport would still be provided.
Whilst the existing public transport services offered in the Clydebank
area would be able to accommodate pupils making their way to and
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from school, we understand from local providers that the provision in
Dumbarton and the Vale of Leven would not. Whilst some schools
already have facilities in place for families to exchange items of
clothing, it is conceded that there would be a financial impact on
households catering for children and young people walking to and from
school, many of whom are already facing significant financial hardship.
The proposed change may also have an impact on attendance and
attainment. 
7.4 The report also highlighted that the online survey main question may have
been misunderstood by respondents and therefore the outcome may not be
accurate. The survey responses do not fully reflect the comments or the
issues raised by stakeholders who met with HM Inspectors. The Council will
need to consider if this data should be used to inform the final decision. 
• Response: as stated in 5.4 and 5.5 above, the response to the main
question in the online survey does not reflect the vast majority of
comments made throughout the consultation, as reflected in the 12
themes shown in section 6.1 above. Whilst a small number of
comments were in favour of the proposed change, the vast majority
were against the proposal. 
8. ALLEGED OMISSIONS OR INACCURACIES 
8.1 Section (10) (3) of the 2010 Act also places a requirement on the Council to
provide details of any inaccuracy or omission within the Proposal Paper
which has either been identified by the Council or raised by consultees.  This
section of the 2010 Act also requires the Council to provide a statement on
the action taken in respect of the inaccuracy or omission, or, if no action was
taken, to state that fact and why. 
8.2 In the course of the consultation exercise, there were no areas identified
by respondents as being inaccurate or omitted from the Proposal Paper
during the consultation period. 
9. COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 9(1) OF THE SCHOOLS
(CONSULTATION) (SCOTLAND) ACT 2010 
9.1 Section 9(1) of the Schools (Consultation) (Scotland) Act 2010 states that:
After the Education Authority has received Education Scotland’s report, the
Authority is to review the relevant proposal having regard (in particular) to: 
(i) written representations received by the Authority (from any
person) during the consultation period;
(ii) oral representations made to it (by any  person) at the public
Meeting; and
(iii) Education Scotland’s report. 
9.2 Following receipt of the Education Scotland report, the Council has reviewed
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the proposal, having regard to the written and oral representations made and
to Education Scotland’s report. 
9.3 The feedback from the consultation was considered by officers where all the
questions and comments raised were considered in detail.  This ensured that
the Council met the requirements to review the proposal under section 9(1)
and 13(5) of the 2010 Act. 
9.4 Officers of the Education Authority have listened carefully to the points made
at the public meeting and have considered equally carefully the Education
Scotland report, online representations and written submission.   
9.5 The proposal was reviewed to consider whether any of the representations led
to the Council to reconsider any other reasonable alternatives to the proposal. 
It is clear from the responses received that the vast majority of stakeholders
are against the proposal. 
9.6 As the grounds for the proposal were based on a saving to the Council, a
reasonable alternative would be to maintain the existing home to school
distance, but remove the provision of bus passes by the Council for use on
public service buses, requiring children and young people who use public
service buses to make use of their Under 22 travel pass instead. In the
exceptional circumstance where a child or young person is unable to obtain or
utilise an Under 22 Travel Pass, the Council would ensure the young person
was provided with suitable support. This change would have no direct impact
on stakeholders, and save the Council in the region of £185,000 per annum.
This would be £15,000 short of the projected saving for 2023/24, and
£115,000 short of the projected saving for 2024/25. 
9.6 The educational benefits were reviewed in respect of the Education Scotland
report and representations made. It is clear that the Council did not set out
sufficiently the potential educational benefits to address concerns raised by
stakeholders. Further work will be done through school travel plans to
increase the uptake of active travel options, and Education will continue to
support the wider work of the Council to improve sustainability. 
10. LEGAL ISSUES/NEXT STEPS 
10.1 The Council has complied in full with the requirements of the Schools
(Consultation) (Scotland) Act 2010 throughout this statutory
consultation. 
10.2 Under the terms of the Schools (Scotland) (Consultation) Act 2010, it is a
legal requirement that the Council should not reach any formal decision
without waiting until a period of three weeks starting on the day on which this
Consultation Report is published in electronic and printed form has expired. 
10.3    This Consultation Report will  be published, both electronically and available
in written form, if required, on Friday 16 June 2023, this meets the statutory
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requirement to publish this report for three weeks before the report on the
consultation is considered by Educational Service Committee on Friday 7
July 2023 for final decision. If approved the Council will ensure continued
engagement with all stakeholders throughout the implementation of any
change to the policy. 
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APPENDIX 1 
WEST DUNBARTONSHIRE COUNCIL 
PUBLIC CONSULTATION MEETING 1
DUMBARTON VENUE - Our Lady & St. Patrick’s High School
(Also made available online)
Tuesday 18th April 2023 – 7.00 p.m. 
ATTENDING: 
Laura Mason (LM), Chief Education Officer, WDC
Andrew Brown (AB), Senior Education Officer, WDC
Claire Cusick (CC), Senior Education Officer, WDC
Julie McGrogan (JM), Senior Education Officer, WDC 
Lyn Pennycook (LP), Education Support Officer, WDC
Sheila Brown (SB), HMIe, Education Scotland 
In Attendance: 
30 members of the public in person, and 3 members of the public online. 
Welcome and Introduction 
LM opened the meeting and welcomed the members of the public in attendance to
the statutory consultation meeting.  LM introduced herself and the Council Officers in
attendance and outlined the format of the meeting.   
Consultation Process 
LM continued by explaining the consultation process, and stated that West
Dunbartonshire Council are required by law to conduct a statutory consultation for
any proposed change to denominational transport, but have taken the opportunity to
consult more widely on the changes for all schools affected. LM advised that
presently, around 1,200 children and young people are transported to 12 of our
schools. At the meeting on the 8th of March, Educational Services committee
approved the launch of this consultation, and agreed that it should run from the 9th
of March until the 9th May, and that a report outlining the results of this consultation
and making appropriate recommendations be presented to a meeting of the
educational services committee in the week beginning the 5th July. 
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LM continued that in terms of the timeline for the consultation, we aim to provide
individual outcomes to those in receipt of transport currently this week. This is the
first of our public events for geographical areas, with a further two to take place in
Clydebank and the Vale of Leven. When the consultation formally closes all
responses will be collated, and provided to Education Scotland who will then
undertake some fieldwork - they will sample visit a number of schools, and look to
speak with children and young people, the Parent Council and a wider group of
parents. Education Scotland will then produce a report to the Council based on how
the consultation was conducted, and this report will form part of the material
submitted in the report to the Educational Services committee to be held in the week
beginning the 5th of July. West Dunbartonshire Council (WDC) are required by law
to publish their Consultation Response Report three weeks before the committee
meeting. 
Should the Educational Services committee agree to implement any changes, it is
proposed to do these in two phases - the first phase affecting children and young
people who presently use public transport for their journey to school in time for the
start of the next academic year, and the second phase to time with the start of the
following year in 2024 - this is of course all subject to the findings of this consultation,
and committee approval.   
Proposed Changes 
AB spoke to the proposed changes being addressed in this consultation. The
proposal is to increase the distance a pupil resides in order to qualify for
transportation. For primary aged pupils that would mean a change from the existing
1 mile distance to 2 miles, And for secondary, a change from the existing 2 miles to 3
miles. AB stated that throughout the documentation we have stated that this is more
in line with legislation, as Scottish Government do not specify a distance for local
authorities to provide transport, but instead refer to a ‘safe walking distance’. WDC
have not measured distances ‘as the crow flies’, but instead have used the West
Dunbartonshire Mapping and Geographical Information Centre tool which is
developed by ESRI. This is a tool that is used worldwide, and the same tool that is
used for all council mapping applications – for example, the tool on the WDC website
allowing residents to find out what day their bins are collected. In education, the tool
is used for school catchment areas, and for school transport. Using this tool, we first
pinpointed the school gates, or access points to school sites which then allowed us
to define, on the maps, the distance from our schools to any address. 
AB shared a number of images [due to the projected image in the OLSP hall, it was
acknowledged that these were difficult to see on screen]. The software can identify
routes that are walkable. The image displayed showed part of the Vale of Leven that
has walkable routes to OLSP - those routes were shown as purple lines in the
image. The software helps to understand which of those walkable routes are within
three miles of OLSP shown here, and a similar exercise was undertaken for each of
the schools affected. Understandably, the software highlighted areas that are outwith
the 2 or 3 mile distance, showing addresses that would be eligible for transport
provision.  By plotting on the mapping software the location of the home addresses
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for children and young people that presently receive transport, allow us to see what
this would mean for individuals affected by the proposed changes. 
Whilst the mapping software will tell if something is walkable, we need to ensure that
it is a safe route to walk. What do we mean by ‘safe’? By safe, we mean that there is
provision of an accessible footpath, maintained to a suitable quality. There is
adequate provision of street lighting, so that this path is lit and can be walked safely.
Where crossing points need to be used, is there is safe way to cross the road, and
where there is a high volume of traffic, or a higher speed of traffic, this has been
taken into consideration. This isn’t new to us - we have been providing school
transport for decades, so we already have a considerable amount of knowledge and
experience in this area. There are presently a number of young people who are
provided with transport on the grounds of the being no suitable route for them to walk
- this will not change. Where concerns have been raised, we have walked routes,
and checked all of those with colleagues in the Roads team. 
AB drew attention to two specific areas - the Stirling Road, the A813 at the ‘Lions
Head’ roundabout near the Vale of Leven Industrial Estate, and the junction of the
A82 and A814 at Milton to highlight this point - although these are ‘walkable’ routes -
we do not consider them to be a ‘safe walkable’ routes. So, in the example of OLSP
although many of the addresses in the Vale of Leven are within the 3 mile distance
proposed, if you are coming from the Vale to attend OLSP, we will still have to
provide you with transport, as there is not presently a safe route for you to walk. The
same applies for addresses in Milton and Renton. Children and young people
attending the catchment schools of St. Patrick’s Primary, Knoxland Primary,
Dumbarton Academy and OLSP from these geographical area will similarly still be
eligible for transport on the grounds of safety. 
LM mentioned at the beginning that we would be writing to each family who is
presently in receipt of school transport with the outcome of this exercise for your
individual circumstances so that each of you know how this will impact you. 
AB shared a table highlighting the affect the proposal would have on the number of
children and young people presently transported to schools. 
School Existing Numbers Not Eligible
Gartocharn Primary School 17 
Knoxland Primary School 21 5
Linnvale Primary School * *
St. Eunan’s Primary School 22 22
St. Mary’s (Alexandria) Primary School 16 16
St. Mary’s (Duntocher) Primary School 12 *
St. Patrick’s Primary School * *
Clydebank High School 249 179
Dumbarton Academy 23 5
Our Lady & St. Patrick’s High School 533 130
St. Peter the Apostle High School 106 81
Vale of Leven Academy 184 153 
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If accepted, we would propose to make changes in two phases - first by making the
most straightforward change. Many of our children and young people are transported
using ‘service’ buses. At the moment, we pay First Bus to transport our young people
on the very same service bus you or I could also get. With the introduction of the
Under 22 Travel Pass, young people would be able to get exactly the same transport
without additional cost to the council. Technically, the public purse is paying twice for
this service. We have been working with SDS, the Senior Phase team and
Working4U to maximise the uptake of the travel pass scheme, and would seek to
ensure that all young people that need a card have one prior to the summer
holidays. 
The second phase would see us making changes to the dedicated transport
provision that we presently have contractors operating - most notably Marbil,
McColls and a number of local taxi providers. We would be looking to make these
changes in time for the following session starting in August 2024, due to the terms of
the existing contracts and termination clauses and timescales. 
Education Benefits 
AB highlighted the benefits and dis-benefits associated with this proposal.  As LM
stated at the introduction, the council needs to identify areas where we could reduce
our operating costs, and as already made mention of areas here where the public
purse is paying twice. There are of course other benefits associated with this
proposal. 
UN Convention on the Rights of the Child Article 3 which affirms that ‘in all actions
concerning children, whether undertaken by public or private social welfare
institutions, courts of law, administrative authorities or legislative bodies, the best
interests of the child shall be a primary consideration’, so in all of our decision
making, we need to ensure that the long term benefits for our young people are at
the centre of our thinking. 
The Scottish Government is committed to a long term vision for active travel that
encourages promotes walking, cycling, public transport and car sharing in preference
to single occupancy car use for movement of people, and encourages efficient and
sustainable freight. 
There are a number of benefits associated with physical health:
● The World Health Organisation reported that walking for 30 minutes or cycling
for 20 minutes on most days reduces mortality risk by at least 10%
● Active commuting is associated with an approximate 10% decrease in risk for
cardiovascular disease and a 30% decrease in type 2 diabetes risk
● Cancer-related mortality is 30% lower among bike commuters
● The Scottish Health Survey of 2021 identified 28% of children at risk of being
overweight. An active lifestyle combined with a healthy diet can help to reduce
this 
Equally, there are benefits to mental health:
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● Improve focus – in one study, brain activity in the areas of focus and attention
were increased following a period of walking. Walking to school can therefore
improve focus on school activities
● Walking has been found to improve people’s mood and develop creativity 
Building relationships with those you walk with. Whether it be a group of friends or
family, spending time walking together can help build relationships as people talk
about their day or other things that are on their mind. For those children that do not
have the required sense of road safety to walk unaccompanied, parents or carers
may have to accompany their children on the journey to and from school. In other
local authorities, many parents have benefitted from sharing this with a group of
other parents whose children live near them. This has reduced the impact on
individuals, led to increased connections with neighbours, and an increased sense of
community. 
Reducing the number of people taking car or bus journeys can help to improve our
air quality.    
A walking survey in 2021 found that participation was lower amongst residents of the
10% most deprived areas.     
Whilst there are benefits to making a change, there are equally dis-benefits
associated with this proposal:
● Journey time – for some, the journey to school time will increase if not
travelling by bus. This may result in an earlier start to the day for some, as
they plan for their journey taking longer.
● Inclement weather – weather in the West of Scotland is frequently inclement,
resulting in families having to equip children and young people for wet and
windy weather. This may increase financial pressure on households.   
● Some benefits are only realised if children and young people swap the
passive bus journey for an active means of getting to school 
AB concluded by highlighting that The Eco-Schools Scotland programme (with which
all of our school are engaged) encourages active travel for our children and young
people.  
The programme promotes:
● encouraging and enabling parents and children to walk, cycle and use public
transport;
● setting up a working group with school, parent, local authority, community,
police, and transport representatives to run a school travel or 'safer routes to
school' project;
● writing and implementing a school travel plan;
● running an effective road safety awareness programme for pupils;
● raising awareness of the damage caused by transport to the environment and
people's health, and;
● providing adequate support and information about travelling to school for
pupils and staff who wish to walk, cycle or use public transport.  
All schools will be encouraged to revisit their school travel plan to encourage an
increasing uptake of active travel. 
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Questions 
LM opened the meeting for questions from those in attendance. 
Q. Will Milton be impacted? 
A. Transport will still be provided to children and young people from Milton who
attend St. Patrick’s Primary, Knoxland Primary, Dumbarton Academy and Our Lady
& St Patrick’s High School on the grounds of safety. 
Q. Re dedicated buses, child didn’t get a bus pass (Dumbarton Academy). 
A. Bus passes were ordered through our partner SPT. We were not aware that they
had not been provided to Dumbarton Academy pupils, as this hadn’t been brought to
our attention. We will pick this up with both SPT and the school. 
Comment. Suggestion that transport to secondary schools be removed but
retain primary transport. 
Q. Was it taken in to account that Milton Primary closed and pupils were
transferred to Knoxland which is the next school. The stress this could cause
of child walking this distance, ability to concentrate, lot to ask of a 4 year old. 
A. Yes, this was taken into account, and children living in Milton will still be provided
with transport. 
Q. Pupil at Knoxland, lives in Garshake, with undiagnosed ASN. Queried
whether individual circumstances would be considered. If did not qualify could
people come back re this? 
A. Transport provision for children with ASN is not governed by the same criteria,
and individual assessments and outcomes are made for individual needs. ASN
queries can be followed up with the school. 
Q. Is A82 considered a safe walking route? 
A. The A82 has a number of controlled crossing points. 
Q. Various people were looking for confirmation whether they would be
affected or not. 
A. Individual outcomes for those presently in receipt of school transport will be
provided. 
Q. Question about transport from Renton, as there are concerns of safety
walking from Renton due to roads, lorries, safety, blind spots. 
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A .Children and young people travelling from Renton to OLSP would still be provided
with transportation on the grounds of safety.   
Comment. Concern re reliability of bus from Milton. Noted that on occasion
First Bus drives past the stop as does not want to pick up school pupils. 
Q. Query if there would be an increase in First Buses due to increased
demand? 
A. Should the recommendation be implemented, we will provide local service
operators with the data we have showing the number of children and young people
we would no longer be transporting. 
Q. Timeframe for dedicated serviced (2024) - will this end in 24 and would we
have to go through this process again? 
A. If implemented, we would propose to end the dedicated services for those no
longer eligible at the start of session 2024/25, so they would still have transport up
until then.   
Comment. On understanding the health benefits, some routes may be
considered safe to walk but not safe due to behaviours. 
Q. What provision will be in place for ASN children? 
A. Transport provision for children with ASN is not governed by the same criteria,
and individual assessments and outcomes are made for individual needs. ASN
queries can be followed up with the school, with a ‘Team Around the Child’ meeting
in the first instance. 
Comment. Safe routes may not be the same for all due to behaviour of children
- noted removal of crossing patrollers. 
Comment. Suggested that there are not any educational benefits from this. 
Q. Who walked the routes and are the results published? 
A. Routes have been walked by Education Transport and checked by Roads.
Documentation can be provided. 
Q. Will the safety report be independently verified? 
A. This has not been a requirement that we have been made aware of, but will
discuss further with Corporate Health & Safety. 
Q. Does this take in to account pupils who are carrying art work, instruments,
time for exams etc. and the stress/anxiety this could cause pupils. 
A. Adults were involved in the assessment of routes with an understanding of the
needs of children attending school.
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Q. If we don’t agree with the report will there be time to walk the route to log
disagreement? 
A. Yes. 
Q. The bus will be picking up in Milton so why not pick up at Garshake? 
A. The size of vehicle used is determined by the number of pupils being transported.
There are occasions where there are spare seats on vehicles, which are offered
through our ‘Privilege Seat’ process. Further information can be found about this on
the Education Transport page of the website. 
Q. Where is the saving? Kids who are being put off the bus are being put at
risk. 
A. The saving is being made by no longer paying for the transportation of some
pupils. 
Comment. The traffic is fast on the A82 and poses a risk to life. 
Comment. Weather is awful, and kids will have to walk far in it. 
Q. Further question on reliability of busses which don’t stop and make pupils
late for school. 
A. Reliability of service would be a matter for the operator. 
Q. Could we look at savings from elsewhere (Young Scot Cards)? 
A. Savings would be made from not paying for a bus pass for those already making
use of service buses and their Young Scot card. 
Q. Brucehill/Castlehill/Westcliff - people living in different streets would be not
eligible from someone living in the next street. Would the bus pick them up? 
A. The bus would only pick up those eligible for transport, or those with a privilege
seat. 
Q. Would we be looking at smaller busses for areas? 
A. The size or type of vehicle is determined by the operator on the basis of the
number of pupils transported. 
Q. What is the course of action if disagree with safe route? 
A. A process is already in place for such queries. If you contact education transport
they will be able to assist. 
Q. Request for slides to be made public.
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A. Slides will be published on the consultation page of the West Dunbartonshire
website. 
Next Steps 
LM addressed what will happen next in the consultation. The consultation remains
open until midnight on 9th May 2023, and anyone wishing to make their views on the
proposal known can do so in a number of ways including: online survey (this asks
whether you are in favour of the proposal - yes or no), by phone, in writing, or by
email.  At the end of the consultation period all documents and views obtained
through the consultation process are collated and shared with Education Scotland,
who will undertake fieldwork to assist them with writing an independent report on the
consultation, and respond to Laura Mason.  Andrea McMillan and Sheila Brown from
Education Scotland will undertake meetings with parents/staff/children from a
number of schools affected in the week beginning 15th May 2023. A report including
recommendation will be submitted to the Education Services Committee in July 2023
to make a final decision. 
Close of Meeting 
LM thanked everyone for attending and reminded those attending that views on the
consultation can be made through the online survey, by email letter, phone or
through an informal chat and you have until 9th May 2023 to submit your response. 
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APPENDIX 1 
WEST DUNBARTONSHIRE COUNCIL 
PUBLIC CONSULTATION MEETING 2
CLYDEBANK VENUE - St. Peter the Apostle High School
(Also made available online)
Wednesday 19th April 2023 – 7.00 p.m. 
ATTENDING: 
Laura Mason (LM), Chief Education Officer, WDC
Andrew Brown (AB), Senior Education Officer, WDC
Claire Cusick (CC), Senior Education Officer, WDC
Julie McGrogan (JM), Senior Education Officer, WDC 
Lyn Pennycook (LP), Education Support Officer, WDC 
In Attendance: 
8 members of the public in person, and 2 members of the public online. 
Welcome and Introduction 
LM opened the meeting and welcomed the members of the public in attendance to
the statutory consultation meeting.  LM introduced herself and the Council Officers in
attendance and outlined the format of the meeting.   
Consultation Process 
LM continued by explaining the consultation process, and stated that West
Dunbartonshire Council are required by law to conduct a statutory consultation for
any proposed change to denominational transport, but have taken the opportunity to
consult more widely on the changes for all schools affected. LM advised that
presently, around 1,200 children and young people are transported to 12 of our
schools. At the meeting on the 8th of March, Educational Services committee
approved the launch of this consultation, and agreed that it should run from the 9th
of March until the 9th May, and that a report outlining the results of this consultation
and making appropriate recommendations be presented to a meeting of the
educational services committee in the week beginning the 5th July. 
LM continued that in terms of the timeline for the consultation, we aim to provide
individual outcomes to those in receipt of transport currently this week. This is the
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second of our public events for geographical areas, with one taking place last night
for the Dumbarton area, with a further one taking place next week in the Vale of
Leven. When the consultation formally closes all responses will be collated, and
provided to Education Scotland who will then undertake some fieldwork - they will
sample visit a number of schools, and look to speak with children and young people,
the Parent Council and a wider group of parents. Education Scotland will then
produce a report to the Council based on how the consultation was conducted, and
this report will form part of the material submitted in the report to the Educational
Services committee to be held in the week beginning the 5th of July. West
Dunbartonshire Council (WDC) are required by law to publish their Consultation
Response Report three weeks before the committee meeting. 
Should the Educational Services committee agree to implement any changes, it is
proposed to do these in two phases - the first phase affecting children and young
people who presently use public transport for their journey to school in time for the
start of the next academic year, and the second phase to time with the start of the
following year in 2024 - this is of course all subject to the findings of this consultation,
and committee approval.   
Proposed Changes 
AB spoke to the proposed changes being addressed in this consultation. The
proposal is to increase the distance a pupil resides in order to qualify for
transportation. For primary aged pupils that would mean a change from the existing
1 mile distance to 2 miles, And for secondary, a change from the existing 2 miles to 3
miles. AB stated that throughout the documentation we have stated that this is more
in line with legislation, as Scottish Government do not specify a distance for local
authorities to provide transport, but instead refer to a ‘safe walking distance’. WDC
have not measured distances ‘as the crow flies’, but instead have used the West
Dunbartonshire Mapping and Geographical Information Centre tool which is
developed by ESRI. This is a tool that is used worldwide, and the same tool that is
used for all council mapping applications – for example, the tool on the WDC website
allowing residents to find out what day their bins are collected. In education, the tool
is used for school catchment areas, and for school transport. Using this tool, we first
pinpointed the school gates, or access points to school sites which then allowed us
to define, on the maps, the distance from our schools to any address. 
AB shared a number of images from the Clydebank area. The software used can
identify routes that are walkable. The image displayed showed part of Clydebank
that has walkable routes to St. Peter the Apostle High School - those routes were
shown as purple lines in the image. The software helps to understand which of those
walkable routes are within three miles of St. Peter the Apostle High School shown
here, and a similar exercise was undertaken for each of the schools affected.
Understandably, the software highlighted areas that are outwith the 2 or 3 mile
distance, showing addresses that would be eligible for transport provision.  By
plotting on the mapping software the location of the home addresses for children and
young people that presently receive transport, allow us to see what this would mean
for individuals affected by the proposed changes. 
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Whilst the mapping software will tell if something is walkable, we need to ensure that
it is a safe route to walk. What do we mean by ‘safe’? By safe, we mean that there is
provision of an accessible footpath, maintained to a suitable quality. There is
adequate provision of street lighting, so that this path is lit and can be walked safely.
Where crossing points need to be used, is there is safe way to cross the road, and
where there is a high volume of traffic, or a higher speed of traffic, this has been
taken into consideration. This isn’t new to us - we have been providing school
transport for decades, so we already have a considerable amount of knowledge and
experience in this area. There are presently a number of young people who are
provided with transport on the grounds of the being no suitable route for them to walk
- this will not change. Where concerns have been raised, we have walked routes,
and checked all of those with colleagues in the Roads team. 
LM mentioned at the beginning that we would be writing to each family who is
presently in receipt of school transport with the outcome of this exercise for your
individual circumstances so that each of you know how this will impact you. 
AB shared a table highlighting the affect the proposal would have on the number of
children and young people presently transported to schools. 
School Existing Numbers Not Eligible
Gartocharn Primary School 17 
Knoxland Primary School 21 5
Linnvale Primary School * *
St. Eunan’s Primary School 22 22
St. Mary’s (Alexandria) Primary School 16 16
St. Mary’s (Duntocher) Primary School 12 *
St. Patrick’s Primary School * *
Clydebank High School 249 179
Dumbarton Academy 23 5
Our Lady & St. Patrick’s High School 533 130
St. Peter the Apostle High School 106 81
Vale of Leven Academy 184 153 
If accepted, we would propose to make changes in two phases - first by making the
most straightforward change. Many of our children and young people are transported
using ‘service’ buses. At the moment, we pay First Bus to transport our young people
on the very same service bus you or I could also get. With the introduction of the
Under 22 Travel Pass, young people would be able to get exactly the same transport
without additional cost to the council. Technically, the public purse is paying twice for
this service. We have been working with SDS, the Senior Phase team and
Working4U to maximise the uptake of the travel pass scheme, and would seek to
ensure that all young people that need a card have one prior to the summer
holidays. 
The second phase would see us making changes to the dedicated transport
provision that we presently have contractors operating - most notably PJ Travel and
a number of local taxi providers. We would be looking to make these changes in time
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for the following session starting in August 2024, due to the terms of the existing
contracts and termination clauses and timescales. 
Education Benefits 
AB highlighted the benefits and dis-benefits associated with this proposal.  As LM
stated at the introduction, the council needs to identify areas where we could reduce
our operating costs, and as already made mention of areas here where the public
purse is paying twice. There are of course other benefits associated with this
proposal. 
UN Convention on the Rights of the Child Article 3 which affirms that ‘in all actions
concerning children, whether undertaken by public or private social welfare
institutions, courts of law, administrative authorities or legislative bodies, the best
interests of the child shall be a primary consideration’, so in all of our decision
making, we need to ensure that the long term benefits for our young people are at
the centre of our thinking. 
The Scottish Government is committed to a long term vision for active travel that
encourages promotes walking, cycling, public transport and car sharing in preference
to single occupancy car use for movement of people, and encourages efficient and
sustainable freight. 
There are a number of benefits associated with physical health:
● The World Health Organisation reported that walking for 30 minutes or cycling
for 20 minutes on most days reduces mortality risk by at least 10%
● Active commuting is associated with an approximate 10% decrease in risk for
cardiovascular disease and a 30% decrease in type 2 diabetes risk
● Cancer-related mortality is 30% lower among bike commuters
● The Scottish Health Survey of 2021 identified 28% of children at risk of being
overweight. An active lifestyle combined with a healthy diet can help to reduce
this 
Equally, there are benefits to mental health:
● Improve focus – in one study, brain activity in the areas of focus and attention
were increased following a period of walking. Walking to school can therefore
improve focus on school activities
● Walking has been found to improve people’s mood and develop creativity 
Building relationships with those you walk with. Whether it be a group of friends or
family, spending time walking together can help build relationships as people talk
about their day or other things that are on their mind. For those children that do not
have the required sense of road safety to walk unaccompanied, parents or carers
may have to accompany their children on the journey to and from school. In other
local authorities, many parents have benefitted from sharing this with a group of
other parents whose children live near them. This has reduced the impact on
individuals, led to increased connections with neighbours, and an increased sense of
community. 
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Reducing the number of people taking car or bus journeys can help to improve our
air quality.    
A walking survey in 2021 found that participation was lower amongst residents of the
10% most deprived areas.     
Whilst there are benefits to making a change, there are equally dis-benefits
associated with this proposal:
● Journey time – for some, the journey to school time will increase if not
travelling by bus. This may result in an earlier start to the day for some, as
they plan for their journey taking longer.
● Inclement weather – weather in the West of Scotland is frequently inclement,
resulting in families having to equip children and young people for wet and
windy weather. This may increase financial pressure on households.   
● Some benefits are only realised if children and young people swap the
passive bus journey for an active means of getting to school 
AB concluded by highlighting that The Eco-Schools Scotland programme (with which
all of our school are engaged) encourages active travel for our children and young
people.  
The programme promotes:
● encouraging and enabling parents and children to walk, cycle and use public
transport;
● setting up a working group with school, parent, local authority, community,
police, and transport representatives to run a school travel or 'safer routes to
school' project;
● writing and implementing a school travel plan;
● running an effective road safety awareness programme for pupils;
● raising awareness of the damage caused by transport to the environment and
people's health, and;
● providing adequate support and information about travelling to school for
pupils and staff who wish to walk, cycle or use public transport.  
All schools will be encouraged to revisit their school travel plan to encourage an
increasing uptake of active travel. 
Questions 
LM opened the meeting for questions from those in attendance. 
Q. What will happen on dark winter mornings? 
A. Under the proposal, more children would be walking to school, or using alternative
modes of transport. 
Comment. Feel it is dangerous for young children. 
Q. What is the saving to the council? 
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A. The saving will be made by no longer requiring certain contracts to transport
children. The saving would be between £200,000 - £300,000 per annum. 
Q. Will this be put back into education? 
A. No. Savings are made to help the council present a balanced budget. 
Q. Currently live 1.5 miles from primary school, and am concerned about
safety of children walking to school. 
A. If the proposed changes are brought into effect, then only children with the
required road sense should be walking to school unaccompanied. 
Q. Have alternative methods of transport been considered? For example, bus
instead of taxi? 
A. The provision is largely determined by the operator, considering the number of
children to be transported, and their needs. 
Q. Traffic management around schools. Have these considerations been
factored in due to timeframes for families in the morning? St. Eunan’s specific
example of congestion in the morning, and availability of parking in the area. 
A. Example given of schools revising their travel plan to best advise parents of
getting children to school safely. 
Comment. I have a 10 year old and a 4 year old, and am considering
registration in my local non-denominational school instead. 
Comment – should be considered for secondary only as opposed to primary –
too dangerous for young children 
Comment – additional burden for working parents. If changes take place then
parents will require support to plan alternatively. 
Comment – concerns re behaviour of secondary pupils impacting on primary
children walking to school. 
Comment – concern about youngest children being able to access buses
safely. 
Comment – request for a bus bay to be installed in St. Eunan’s. 
Next Steps 
LM addressed what will happen next in the consultation. The consultation remains
open until midnight on 9th May 2023, and anyone wishing to make their views on the
proposal known can do so in a number of ways including: online survey (this asks
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whether you are in favour of the proposal - yes or no), by phone, in writing, or by
email.  At the end of the consultation period all documents and views obtained
through the consultation process are collated and shared with Education Scotland,
who will undertake fieldwork to assist them with writing an independent report on the
consultation, and respond to Laura Mason.  Andrea McMillan and Sheila Brown from
Education Scotland will undertake meetings with parents/staff/children from a
number of schools affected in the week beginning 15th May 2023. A report including
recommendation will be submitted to the Education Services Committee in July 2023
to make a final decision. 
Close of Meeting 
LM thanked everyone for attending and reminded those attending that views on the
consultation can be made through the online survey, by email letter, phone or
through an informal chat and you have until 9th May 2023 to submit your response. 
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APPENDIX 1
WEST DUNBARTONSHIRE COUNCIL
PUBLIC CONSULTATION MEETING 3
VALE OF LEVEN VENUE – Vale of Leven Academy
(Also made available online)
Wednesday 25th April 2023 – 7.00 p.m.
ATTENDING:
Laura Mason (LM), Chief Education Officer, WDC
Andrew Brown (AB), Senior Education Officer, WDC
Claire Cusick (CC), Senior Education Officer, WDC
Julie McGrogan (JM), Senior Education Officer, WDC
In Attendance:
10 members of the public in person, and 3 members of the public online.
Welcome and Introduction
LM opened the meeting and welcomed the members of the public in attendance to
the statutory consultation meeting.  LM introduced herself and the Council Officers in
attendance and outlined the format of the meeting.  
Consultation Process
LM continued by explaining the consultation process, and stated that West
Dunbartonshire Council are required by law to conduct a statutory consultation for
any proposed change to denominational transport, but have taken the opportunity to
consult more widely on the changes for all schools affected. LM advised that
presently, around 1,200 children and young people are transported to 12 of our
schools. At the meeting on the 8th of March, Educational Services committee
approved the launch of this consultation, and agreed that it should run from the 9th
of March until the 9th May, and that a report outlining the results of this consultation
and making appropriate recommendations be presented to a meeting of the
educational services committee in the week beginning the 5th July. 
LM continued that in terms of the timeline for the consultation, we aim to provide
individual outcomes to those in receipt of transport currently this week. This is the
third and final of our public events for geographical areas, with two having taken
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place last week for the Dumbarton and Clydebank areas. When the consultation
formally closes all responses will be collated, and provided to Education Scotland
who will then undertake some fieldwork - they will sample visit a number of schools,
and look to speak with children and young people, the Parent Council and a wider
group of parents. Education Scotland will then produce a report to the Council based
on how the consultation was conducted, and this report will form part of the material
submitted in the report to the Educational Services committee to be held in the week
beginning the 5th of July. West Dunbartonshire Council (WDC) are required by law
to publish their Consultation Response Report three weeks before the committee
meeting. 
Should the Educational Services committee agree to implement any changes, it is
proposed to do these in two phases - the first phase affecting children and young
people who presently use public transport for their journey to school in time for the
start of the next academic year, and the second phase to time with the start of the
following year in 2024 - this is of course all subject to the findings of this consultation,
and committee approval.   
Proposed Changes 
AB spoke to the proposed changes being addressed in this consultation. The
proposal is to increase the distance a pupil resides in order to qualify for
transportation. For primary aged pupils that would mean a change from the existing
1 mile distance to 2 miles, And for secondary, a change from the existing 2 miles to 3
miles. AB stated that throughout the documentation we have stated that this is more
in line with legislation, as Scottish Government do not specify a distance for local
authorities to provide transport, but instead refer to a ‘safe walking distance’. WDC
have not measured distances ‘as the crow flies’, but instead have used the West
Dunbartonshire Mapping and Geographical Information Centre tool which is
developed by ESRI. This is a tool that is used worldwide, and the same tool that is
used for all council mapping applications – for example, the tool on the WDC website
allowing residents to find out what day their bins are collected. In education, the tool
is used for school catchment areas, and for school transport. Using this tool, we first
pinpointed the school gates, or access points to school sites which then allowed us
to define, on the maps, the distance from our schools to any address. 
AB shared a number of images from the Vale of Leven area. The software used can
identify routes that are walkable. The image displayed showed part of the Vale of
Leven that has walkable routes to Vale of Leven Academy - those routes were
shown as purple lines in the image. The software helps to understand which of those
walkable routes are within three miles of Vale of Leven Academy shown here, and a
similar exercise was undertaken for each of the schools affected. Understandably,
the software highlighted areas that are outwith the 2 or 3 mile distance, showing
addresses that would be eligible for transport provision.  By plotting on the mapping
software the location of the home addresses for children and young people that
presently receive transport, allow us to see what this would mean for individuals
affected by the proposed changes. 
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Whilst the mapping software will tell if something is walkable, we need to ensure that
it is a safe route to walk. What do we mean by ‘safe’? By safe, we mean that there is
provision of an accessible footpath, maintained to a suitable quality. There is
adequate provision of street lighting, so that this path is lit and can be walked safely.
Where crossing points need to be used, is there is safe way to cross the road, and
where there is a high volume of traffic, or a higher speed of traffic, this has been
taken into consideration. This isn’t new to us - we have been providing school
transport for decades, so we already have a considerable amount of knowledge and
experience in this area. There are presently a number of young people who are
provided with transport on the grounds of the being no suitable route for them to walk
- this will not change. Where concerns have been raised, we have walked routes,
and checked all of those with colleagues in the Roads team. 
LM mentioned at the beginning that we would be writing to each family who is
presently in receipt of school transport with the outcome of this exercise for your
individual circumstances so that each of you know how this will impact you. 
AB shared a table highlighting the affect the proposal would have on the number of
children and young people presently transported to schools. 
School Existing Numbers Not Eligible
Gartocharn Primary School 17 
Knoxland Primary School 21 5
Linnvale Primary School * *
St. Eunan’s Primary School 22 22
St. Mary’s (Alexandria) Primary School 16 16
St. Mary’s (Duntocher) Primary School 12 *
St. Patrick’s Primary School * *
Clydebank High School 249 179
Dumbarton Academy 23 5
Our Lady & St. Patrick’s High School 533 130
St. Peter the Apostle High School 106 81
Vale of Leven Academy 184 153 
If accepted, we would propose to make changes in two phases - first by making the
most straightforward change. Many of our children and young people are transported
using ‘service’ buses. At the moment, we pay First Bus to transport our young people
on the very same service bus you or I could also get. With the introduction of the
Under 22 Travel Pass, young people would be able to get exactly the same transport
without additional cost to the council. Technically, the public purse is paying twice for
this service. We have been working with SDS, the Senior Phase team and
Working4U to maximise the uptake of the travel pass scheme, and would seek to
ensure that all young people that need a card have one prior to the summer
holidays. 
The second phase would see us making changes to the dedicated transport
provision that we presently have contractors operating - most notably in this area
McColls and a number of local taxi providers. We would be looking to make these
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changes in time for the following session starting in August 2024, due to the terms of
the existing contracts and termination clauses and timescales. 
Education Benefits 
AB highlighted the benefits and dis-benefits associated with this proposal.  As LM
stated at the introduction, the council needs to identify areas where we could reduce
our operating costs, and as already made mention of areas here where the public
purse is paying twice. There are of course other benefits associated with this
proposal. 
UN Convention on the Rights of the Child Article 3 which affirms that ‘in all actions
concerning children, whether undertaken by public or private social welfare
institutions, courts of law, administrative authorities or legislative bodies, the best
interests of the child shall be a primary consideration’, so in all of our decision
making, we need to ensure that the long term benefits for our young people are at
the centre of our thinking. 
The Scottish Government is committed to a long term vision for active travel that
encourages promotes walking, cycling, public transport and car sharing in preference
to single occupancy car use for movement of people, and encourages efficient and
sustainable freight. 
There are a number of benefits associated with physical health:
● The World Health Organisation reported that walking for 30 minutes or cycling
for 20 minutes on most days reduces mortality risk by at least 10%
● Active commuting is associated with an approximate 10% decrease in risk for
cardiovascular disease and a 30% decrease in type 2 diabetes risk
● Cancer-related mortality is 30% lower among bike commuters
● The Scottish Health Survey of 2021 identified 28% of children at risk of being
overweight. An active lifestyle combined with a healthy diet can help to reduce
this 
Equally, there are benefits to mental health:
● Improve focus – in one study, brain activity in the areas of focus and attention
were increased following a period of walking. Walking to school can therefore
improve focus on school activities
● Walking has been found to improve people’s mood and develop creativity 
Building relationships with those you walk with. Whether it be a group of friends or
family, spending time walking together can help build relationships as people talk
about their day or other things that are on their mind. For those children that do not
have the required sense of road safety to walk unaccompanied, parents or carers
may have to accompany their children on the journey to and from school. In other
local authorities, many parents have benefitted from sharing this with a group of
other parents whose children live near them. This has reduced the impact on
individuals, led to increased connections with neighbours, and an increased sense of
community. 
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Reducing the number of people taking car or bus journeys can help to improve our
air quality.    
A walking survey in 2021 found that participation was lower amongst residents of the
10% most deprived areas.     
Whilst there are benefits to making a change, there are equally dis-benefits
associated with this proposal:
● Journey time – for some, the journey to school time will increase if not
travelling by bus. This may result in an earlier start to the day for some, as
they plan for their journey taking longer.
● Inclement weather – weather in the West of Scotland is frequently inclement,
resulting in families having to equip children and young people for wet and
windy weather. This may increase financial pressure on households.   
● Some benefits are only realised if children and young people swap the
passive bus journey for an active means of getting to school 
AB concluded by highlighting that The Eco-Schools Scotland programme (with which
all of our school are engaged) encourages active travel for our children and young
people.  
The programme promotes:
● encouraging and enabling parents and children to walk, cycle and use public
transport;
● setting up a working group with school, parent, local authority, community,
police, and transport representatives to run a school travel or 'safer routes to
school' project;
● writing and implementing a school travel plan;
● running an effective road safety awareness programme for pupils;
● raising awareness of the damage caused by transport to the environment and
people's health, and;
● providing adequate support and information about travelling to school for
pupils and staff who wish to walk, cycle or use public transport.  
All schools will be encouraged to revisit their school travel plan to encourage an
increasing uptake of active travel. 
Questions 
LM opened the meeting for questions from those in attendance. 
Comment – consultation document should make reference to the source of
research. 
Comment – There is too much reliance on public transport that is already a
poor service .You can’t take what works in other parts of the country and
expect it work here. 
Comment – example given of an 11 year old walking to school if there is poor
lighting, gangs and possible predators.
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Comment – the proposal actually encourages travel by car, and will not
encourage active travel. There is a potential increase in the volume of traffic.
The reader is obliged to check legislation to respond to the question in the
consultation. 
Q. Can you give an indication of the response so far? 
A. There have been approximately 400 responses received to the online survey to
date.   
Q. Has safety been a theme in the other consultation meetings? Why was
safety not one of Officers main concerns? 
A. Safety has been raised at the two previous meetings. Where routes were not
regarded as safe, transport would still be provided. 
Q. Was it not considered that children walking along a 40mph route was a
safety risk? 
A. Colleagues in the Roads team did regard this as a safety issue in some locations,
and therefore recommended that some routes were not safe. 
Q. What is the safe walking route for my child, and how do I know? 
A. It is the parents responsibility to get their child to school. 
Q. The Milton bus will still run and go by Garshake. Why is this a saving? 
A. The bus will still run for those addresses in Milton eligible for transport. Where
there is spare capacity on any contract, we offer ‘privilege seats’. 
Q. How do I go about getting a privilege seat? 
A. Further advice is given about this on the website. 
Q. The existing provision is above the statutory requirement. When this was
put in place, what were the original reasons for this? What was it based on? 
A. Unfortunately, this predates officers and records. The existing provision dates
back to Strathclyde Regional Council days. 
Comment – Previous Director of Education promised a provision of transport
when OLSP moved from Castlehill to Bellsmyre. This is poor to now change
this. 
Comment – I feel this is impacting on the education of Catholic children more
than others. 
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Comment – the consultation does not feel inclusive. Accessing meetings
should have been easy for those most affected. Should have been held in
Brucehill or Castlehill. 
Comment – the materials produced were not accessible. 
Q. HMIe will speak to parents and children – is this cherry picked? 
A. Schools will work directly with Education Scotland to identify focus group
members. 
Comment. The consultation question feels loaded to gather a specific
response. 
Q. Who was involved in identifying benefits? Were a wide group of
stakeholders involved? 
A. Central officers were involved in identifying benefits. A wider group of stakeholder
were not used. 
Next Steps 
LM addressed what will happen next in the consultation. The consultation remains
open until midnight on 9th May 2023, and anyone wishing to make their views on the
proposal known can do so in a number of ways including: online survey (this asks
whether you are in favour of the proposal - yes or no), by phone, in writing, or by
email.  At the end of the consultation period all documents and views obtained
through the consultation process are collated and shared with Education Scotland,
who will undertake fieldwork to assist them with writing an independent report on the
consultation, and respond to Laura Mason.  Andrea McMillan and Sheila Brown from
Education Scotland will undertake meetings with parents/staff/children from a
number of schools affected in the week beginning 15th May 2023. A report including
recommendation will be submitted to the Education Services Committee in July 2023
to make a final decision. 
Close of Meeting 
LM thanked everyone for attending and reminded those attending that views on the
consultation can be made through the online survey, by email letter, phone or
through an informal chat and you have until 9th May 2023 to submit your response. 
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The Archdiocese of Glasgow is a Designated Religious Body, Charity Number SC018140
ARCHBISHOP OF GLASGOW
Curial Offices, 196 Clyde Street
Glasgow, G1 4JY
Tel: +44 (0) 141 226 5898
Fax: +44 (0) 141 225 2600
E-mail: archbishop@rcag.org.uk
www.rcag.org.uk   
2 May 2023 
Ms Laura Mason
Chief Education Officer
West Dunbartonshire Council
16 Church Street
Dumbarton G82 1QL 
A Proposal Document 
to
Alter arrangements for the provision of transport by West Dunbartonshire
Council for pupils attending mainstream schools 
Response of the Archdiocese of Glasgow 
The Archdiocese of Glasgow welcomes the opportunity to respond to the proposal
within this consultation paper and to be involved in any discussions about
denominational education within West Dunbartonshire Council. 
It is important to state that we, in the Archdiocese, understand and appreciate that
Local Councils, are in severe economic straits and need to use their funds to ensure
the best possible outcomes for all people in their authority.   
We note, therefore, that West Dunbartonshire council is proposing to discontinue their
transport arrangements for primary and secondary pupils and reverting to the provision
of conveyancing of pupils between home and school contained in the 1980 Education
(Scotland) Act recommendation of a safe walking distance of 2 miles for primary
children and 3 miles for secondary pupils. 
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This is disappointing given that West Dunbartonshire is one of the most deprived
Council areas in Scotland with many of its families residing in Quintile 1, SIMD 1-2,
regarding (Scottish Index of Multiple Deprivation). 
It is obvious therefore, that families face great hardship in trying to feed and clothe
their children and young people as well as striving to provide heating, lighting,
electricity, and rent, in order to survive in these unprecedented times of economic
hardship.   
However before taking your transport proposals for pupils in West Dunbartonshire
further, we would urge you to consider: 
• That by this travel proposal you may be promoting further disadvantage for
pupils in Quintile 1 (SIMD 1-2), as you are proposing a blanket approach for all
pupils.  Perhaps there should be a clause that allows pupils in these areas more
support, considering their personal circumstances, ensuring an equitable
approach.  
• While you are encouraging ‘safe walking’ and list benefits of this, many parents
will not want their sons and daughters to undertake this mode of travel for safety
reasons.  This may mean more car journeys or parents having to accompany
younger pupils on buses which may impact on their ability to undertake
employment thus causing further hardship.  
• You note in your Consultation Paper that for some, if not travelling by bus, the
journey to school will take longer.  We consider that this may mean increased
absences from school particularly in winter and inclement/cold weather.  This
may result in a fall in the attainment of those pupils resulting in increased
disadvantage for them.
• If children are walking to school, they will require proper clothing for wet and
windy weather if they are to remain healthy and fit to learn.  This will place even
more financial pressure on parents already struggling in our economic climate.
• It is recognised and appreciated that all young people between the ages of five
and twenty-two years in Scotland have access to free bus travel, which in itself
is a huge support to families.  However, travelling by public transport at peak
school times will be problematic not only for pupils but for the wider population,
in terms of ease of access, reliability and safety.  This may result in increased
late coming to schools at the start of the day and a later time home for pupils
thus increasing the length of their journeys and their overall ‘school’ day. 
• Given that if this proposal is passed it will impact on the provision of buses and
bus timetabled, we note that the bus companies are not included in the list of
consultees. 
• That the two denominational secondary schools have a wider catchment area
that the non-denominational secondary schools. In fact, half of the population
of Our Lady and St Patrick’s High School will lose transport if your proposal
goes through.  It may be that parents rather, than having their children travel
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the new distance by foot or public transport, may feel forced to decide to send
their son or daughter to the nearest non-denominational school.  This could be
regarded as indirect discrimination by the Council towards Catholic pupils.
• At a reasonable pace an adult will walk 3 miles in one hour.  This means that
some secondary aged pupils will be adding 2 hours onto their school day.  This
will impact on their capacity to remain in school for clubs, supported study and
on their opportunity to do homework.
• While the intention to encourage walking to school is admirable, there is
concern that removing organised school transport will only increase private
cars, with parents (who have cars) choosing to drive their children to school,
thus causing congestion and pollution at peak times. 
Given our points for your consideration raised above we do not agree that West
Dunbartonshire Council should bring transport provision for school more in line with
the Government’s safe walking distance to school.  We wish you well in your decision
making for the pupils of West Dunbartonshire. 
We, in the Archdiocese, look forward to ongoing discussions on this and any other
proposals which might affect denominational education in your Council area.
With my very best wishes for your continued work. 
+William Nolan
Archbishop of Glasgow
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Schools (Consultation) (Scotland) Act 2010 
Report by Education Scotland addressing educational aspects of
the proposal by West Dunbartonshire Council to alter arrangements
for the provision for pupils attending mainstream schools. 
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1. Introduction 
1.1 This report from Education Scotland has been prepared by His Majesty’s Inspectors of
Education (HM Inspectors) in accordance with the terms of the Schools (Consultation) (Scotland)
Act 2010 (“the 2010 Act”). The purpose of the report is to provide an independent and impartial
consideration of West Dunbartonshire Council’s proposal to alter arrangements for the provision of
transport by West Dunbartonshire Council for pupils attending mainstream schools. Section 2 of
the report sets out brief details of the consultation process. Section 3 of the report sets out HM
Inspectors’ consideration of the educational aspects of the proposal, including significant views
expressed by consultees. Section 4 summarises HM Inspectors’ overall view of the proposal.
Upon receipt of this report, the Act requires the council to consider it and then prepare its final
consultation report. The council’s final consultation report should include this report and must
contain an explanation of how, in finalising the proposal, it has reviewed the initial proposal,
including a summary of points raised during the consultation process and the council’s response to
them. The council has to publish its final consultation report three weeks before it takes its final
decision. 
1.2 HM Inspectors considered:
• the likely effects of the proposal for children and young people of the schools; any other
users; children likely to become pupils within two years of the date of publication of the
proposal paper.
• any other likely effects of the proposal;
• how the council intends to minimise or avoid any adverse effects that may arise from the
proposal; and
• the educational benefits the council believes will result from implementation of the proposal,
and the council’s reasons for coming to these beliefs. 
1.3 In preparing this report, HM Inspectors undertook the following activities:
• attendance at a public meeting held on 18 April 2023 in connection with the council’s
proposals; 
• consideration of all relevant documentation provided by the council in relation to the
proposal, specifically the educational benefits statement and related consultation
documents, written and oral submissions from parents and others;
• consideration of further representations made directly to Education Scotland on relevant
educational aspects of the proposal;
• visits to the site of St Eunan’s Primary School, Knoxland Primary School, Clydebank High
School, St Peter the Apostle High School, Dumbarton Academy, Vale of Leven Academy
and Our lady and St Patrick’s High School, including discussion with relevant consultees
and;
• discussion with relevant consultees, including representatives from the Archdiocese of
Glasgow.   
2. Consultation process 
2.1 West Dunbartonshire Council undertook the consultation on its proposal(s) with reference
to the Schools (Consultation) (Scotland) Act 2010. 
2.2 The consultation ran between 9 March and 9 May 2023. The council published information
on the proposal on its website and provided printed versions at the council headquarters and in all
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the affected schools, including alternative formats and in translation. The council created an online
survey for stakeholders to provide their views on the proposal. Responses were also accepted by
telephone, letter or email. West Dunbartonshire Council held three public meetings about the
proposal. These took place on 18, 19 and 25 April 2023. A total of 48 stakeholders attended these
public meetings in person. A further eight attended using an online link. 
2.3 The council received 542 survey responses. Parents and carers submitted the majority of
responses. Children and young people submitted a minority of the responses. Representatives of
Parent Councils, school staff and other local residents submitted a few responses. West
Dunbartonshire Council received additional submissions by email or letter from a few individuals.
Most of these individuals opposed the proposal. The consultation survey asked, ‘Do you agree
that West Dunbartonshire Council should bring transport provision for schools more in line with the
safe walking distance to school?’. Most stakeholders who engaged with the consultation through
the online survey answered ‘yes’ to this question. However, ‘yes’ responses do not align with the
comments which are negative overall. A few respondents specifically commented on the lack of
clarity in the survey question. Less than half of survey respondents left a comment in the survey.
However, of those that did, most were not in agreement with the proposal. Respondents who
identified themselves as Roman Catholic were less likely than others to answer ‘yes’ to the survey
question. 
2.4 A few stakeholders who made a positive comment identified the potential health benefits of
the proposal in terms of children and young people walking to school. Stakeholders who
completed the survey and those who attended public meetings expressed a range of concerns,
including safety of the proposed walking routes to school. These concerns covered the proximity
of some routes to busy roads and a lack of suitable crossing places. Stakeholders also expressed
concern about the distances children would be walking, especially younger children. A minority of
respondents noted a lack of reliable public transport which does not align with school day timings.
A minority of negative comments expressed concern about the impact on wellbeing for children
and young people, for example when walking in poor weather conditions. A few stakeholders
consider that if the proposal is agreed, this would lead to greater traffic congestion, since more
parents may choose to drive their children to school. A few commented that this may lead to
higher levels of carbon emissions, which the proposal hopes to reduce. A few stakeholders
suggested that the proposal may lead to challenges for families. For example, working parents
and carers finding it difficult to walk or drive their children to school. There are also concerns about
how this might impact on children’s participation in after-school activities. In some schools staff
carried out consultations with young people. However, there was not a coordinated approach to
consultations with young people in their schools. 
3. Educational aspects of proposal 
3.1 The council believes that the proposal, if implemented, will bring educational benefits
through improved health and wellbeing. Active travel to school brings opportunities for physical
activity and social interaction which support physical and mental wellbeing. There would also be a
positive impact on the environment if parents encourage children to participate in active travel. A
few stakeholders who met with HM Inspectors agree with the health benefits of walking. The
council have acknowledged that some of these benefits will only be realised if children and young
people walk to school. HM Inspectors agree that walking to school has potential health and
wellbeing benefits. However, HMI Inspectors do not agree that the council have not fully
demonstrated the educational benefits of the proposal to stakeholders, including young people. 
3.2 Almost all stakeholders reject the environmental benefits put forward by the council. A few
parents that spoke to HM Inspectors feel that there may be an increase in traffic if more parents
drive their child to school. They are concerned that this contradicts the council’s stated benefit to
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active travel, leading to increased emissions from the volume of traffic. Congestion at school gates
at peak times is already a concern of both staff and parents who met with HM Inspectors. Parents
at St Eunan’s Primary School are particularly concerned as this will result in school transport being
withdrawn completely from their school. The council should have further dialogue with these
parents to discuss ways to address the issues raised. 
3.3 Almost all stakeholders, including young people, who met with HM Inspectors are against
the proposal. They feel strongly that walking longer distances to school will potentially lead to an
increase in late coming. This will have a detrimental impact on attainment and achievement.
Stakeholders expressed concerns about both the safety of walking routes to schools and the
reliability and frequency of public buses. Whilst recognising that many young people will have a
Young Scot Card, not all parents are happy for their child to travel on the public bus. Stakeholders
cited examples of public buses being full and not picking school pupils up. Currently, monitors on
school buses help to regulate behaviour, but this would not be available on a public bus leading to
an increase in anti-social behaviour. Parents are also concerned that young people will be reliant
on the continuation of Young Scot Under 22 travel scheme. Most stakeholders feel that walking
three miles to school is not acceptable, particularly in bad weather. They are worried that this
means sitting in classrooms all day in wet clothing. Young people and staff at Clydebank High
School do not think that this proposal will have a significant impact for them. Many young people
who would be entitled to school transport are using their Young Scot card to access public buses. 
3.4 Staff who met with HM Inspectors also had reservations about the proposal. There is
concern that the most deprived communities in West Dunbartonshire will be adversely impacted.
In a few schools, attendance of young people from these communities is already lower than those
from other areas. They fear that the proposals may lead to some children and young people not
attending on days they face challenges getting to school. As a result, they may not be able to
access free school meals. 
3.5 HM Inspectors met with a representative of the Archdiocese of Glasgow. They are not in
favour of the proposal. The Diocese expressed concern that the proposal, if implemented, may
further disadvantage pupils living in the most deprived areas. In line with other respondents, they
are concerned that young people may have to walk long distances in inclement weather. This may
restrict after-school activities and homework. There is also a concern that the withdrawal of the
bus service from some pupils will lead to a negative impact on attendance and ultimately
educational attainment. The Archdiocese believes that Roman Catholic parents may then choose
to send their child to a non-denominational school, due to transport difficulties. 
3.6 A few parents who met with HM Inspectors raised concerns about the online survey and the
process of engagement for the proposal. They felt that the survey question was unclear and
potentially misleading. As a result, they do not think that this was an open and fair process. 
4. Summary 
In their proposal, West Dunbartonshire Council state that there will be educational benefits gained
through active travel. HM Inspectors agree that the proposal is in line with national guidance and
statutory walking distances. HM Inspectors agree that there are potential benefits through active
travel. However, HM Inspectors do not agree that the council have set out sufficiently the potential
educational benefits to address concerns raised by stakeholders. Almost all stakeholders raised
significant concerns. These include the safety of children and young people while walking to and
from school, and the reliability, availability and capacity of public transport to meet increased
demand. Most stakeholders also have a concern that the proposal, if implemented, would incur
financial costs for families already facing significant financial hardship. Stakeholders are also
concerned about the potential for lower attendance which will impact on attainment and
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achievement. Should this proposal be agreed, it will be important for the council to work with
stakeholders to address their concerns. 
The online survey main question may have been misunderstood by respondents and therefore the
outcome may not be accurate. The survey responses do not fully reflect the comments or the
issues raised by stakeholders who met with HM Inspectors. The council will need to consider if this
data should be used to inform the final decision. 
HM Inspectors
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AssessmentNo 749 Owner andbrown
Resource Transformation Service/Establishment Budget Ed
First Name Surname Job title
Head Officer Laura Mason Chief Education Officer
(include job titles/organisation)
Members
Laura Mason - Chief Education Officer Andrew Brown - Senior Education
Officer Kathy Morrison - Senior Education Officer Julie McGrogan -
Senior Education Officer Claire Cusick - Senior Education Officer Ellen
Moran - Principal Educational Psychologist
(Please note: the word 'policy' is used as shorthand for stategy policy
function or financial decision)
Policy Title Statutory Consultation to alter arrangement for school transport
The aim, objective,purpose and intended out come of policy
To undertake a statutory consultation on the proposal to alter
arrangements for school transport, bringing it more in line with the safe
walking distance to schools of 2 miles for primary and 3 miles for
secondary schools.
Service/Partners/Stakeholders/service users involved in the
development and/or implementation of policy.
Consultation with affected stakeholders - children and young people,
parents and carers, staff, Parent Councils, local elected members,
Strathclyde Partnership for Transport (SPT) and the Archdiocese of
Glasgow of the Roman Catholic Church.
Does the proposals involve the procurement of any goods or
services? Yes
If yes please confirm that you have contacted our
procurement services to discuss your requirements. Yes
SCREENING
You must indicate if there is any relevance to the four areas
Duty to eliminate discrimination (E), advance equal
opportunities (A) or foster good relations (F) Yes
Relevance to Human Rights (HR) Yes
Relevance to Health Impacts (H) Yes
Relevance to Social Economic Impacts (SE) Yes
Who will be affected by this policy?
Children and young people who will attend our schools, but reside between 1 and 2
miles from their catchment primary school, or between 2 and 3 miles from their
catchment secondary school. This proposed change in policy will also impact on parents
and carers due to an increased financial pressure on households, and on school
attendance.
Who will be/has been involved in the consultation process?
West Dunbartonshire Council was required to undertake a statutory consultation under
the terms of the Schools (Consultation) (Scotland) Act 2010 on the proposal to
discontinue arrangements for the provision of transport for pupils attending catchment
schools. Children and young people, parents and carers, staff, Trade Unions, Parent
Councils of affected schools, Strathclyde Partnership for Transport (SPT), and the
Archdiocese of Glasgow of the Roman Catholic Church were all consulted as part of this
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process. Education Scotland provide an independent view and assessment of the process
in their own report.
Please outline any particular need/barriers which equality groups may have in
relation to this policy list evidence you are using to support this and whether
there is any negative impact on particular groups.
Needs Evidence Impact
Age
Cross Cutting
Disability
Social & Economic
Impact
Low income
households.
Introducing this
policy change would
adversely affect low
income households.
Households would
need to provide
suitable clothing and
footwear for walking
longer distances to
school.
Negative
Sex
Women/single
parents; Priority
group in terms of
child poverty
Around 90% of
single parents are
women. They would
be
disproportionately
affected by the
introduction of this
policy, as they would
need to provide
suitable clothing and
footwear for walking
longer distances to
school. A greater
number of single
parent households
would also have to
manage the
challenge of
potentially getting
children to multiple
locations (ie one
child at nursery, and
one at primary
school) each day.
Negative
Gender Reassign
Health
Human Rights
Marriage & Civil
Partnership
Pregnancy &
Maternity
Race .
Religion and Belief We are required to The introduction of Negative
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provide access to
denominational and
non-denominational
schools for children
and young people
living in our
catchment areas.
this change in policy
would adversely
affect choice of
school, due to some
non-denominational
schools being easier
to access than
denominational
schools.
Sexual Orientation
Actions
Policy has a negative impact on an equality group,but is still to be implemented,
please provide justification for this.
The response to the statutory consultation was negative, and highlighted impacts on
equality groups as noted above. Through the consultation, an alternative was identified,
whereby a saving could still be made on the cost of providing transport (by asking a
number of young people to make use of their Under 22 Travel Pass instead of a local
authority provided bus pass to access the same transport to and from school), but by not
implementing the proposed change to the policy. This would therefore not impact the
equality groups.
Will the impact of the policy be monitored and reported on an ongoing bases?
The proposed change to policy will not be implemented, but instead an alternative
pursued whereby some young people make use of their under 22 Travel Pass instead of
being provided with a local authority bus pass. Officers will work with partners to
ensure uptake of the Under 22 Travel Pass scheme, ensuring that no young person is
without a pass to get to and from school. Head Teachers and Central Education Officers
will report back to Educational Services committee the progress with implementing this
change, but the policy will stay the same.
Q7 What is you recommendation for this policy?
Modify
Please provide a meaningful summary of how you have reached the
recommendation
EIA 749: Introducing the proposed change to the school transport policy would
adversely affect low income households, single parent households and may indirectly
affect parental choice of denominational or non-denominational school. It is
recommended that the change proposed in the consultation is not introduced, but that
savings are made in another way that does not affect equality groups.
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