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Item 6 - Minutes of JCF

West Dunbartonshire Council · 1 November 2023
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JOINT CONSULTATIVE FORUM
At a Meeting of the Joint Consultative Forum held in the Civic Space, Council
Offices, 16 Church Street, Dumbarton on Thursday, 7 September 2023 at 2.00 p.m.
Present: Councillors Jim Bollan, Karen Murray Conaghan, David
McBride, Michelle McGinty and Martin Rooney; Michael Dolan
and James Halfpenny (EIS); David Scott (GMB); Claire
MacKenzie (SSTA); Sean Davenport, Susan Shannon and
David Smith (UNISON); and Norman King, Chris Rossi and
Margaret Wood (Unite).
Attending: Victoria Rogers, Chief Officer – People and Technology; Alan
Douglas, Chief Officer – Regulatory and Regeneration; Amanda
Graham, Chief Officer – Citizen, Culture and Facilities; Gail
Macfarlane, Chief Officer – Roads and Neighbourhood; Claire
Cusick, Senior Education Officer; Fiona Taylor, Head of Health
and Community Care; John Duffy, People, Quality and
Governance Lead; Louise Hastings, People and Change
Partner; Michael McDougall, Principal Solicitor; and Ashley
MacIntyre, Committee Officer.
Apologies: Apologies for absence were intimated on behalf of Councillor
Hazel Sorrell; John Wagner (GMB); David Smith (UNISON); and
Laura Mason, Chief Education Officer.
APPOINTMENT OF CHAIR, VICE CHAIR AND JOINT SECRETARIES
The Principal Solicitor invited the Forum to consider, in terms of its constitution, a
number of appointments for the next year and it was agreed:-
(a) that Chris Rossi (UNITE) and David Smith (UNISON) be appointed as joint
Chairs of the Forum;
(b) that Councillor David McBride be appointed as Vice Chair; and
(c) that John Wagner (GMB) be appointed as Joint Secretary for the Trade Union
Side and Victoria Rogers, Chief Officer – People and Technology, be
appointed as the Joint Secretary for the Council Side.
Mr Rossi then assumed the Chair.
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Mr Chris Rossi in the Chair
DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST
It was noted that there were no declarations of interest in any of the items of
business on the agenda.
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
The Minutes of Meeting of the Joint Consultative Forum held on 8 June 2023 were
submitted and approved as a correct record.
ANNUAL MONITORING REPORT 2022/23 – EMPLOYMENT EQUALITIES
A report was submitted by the Chief Officer – People and Technology advising of
employment equalities matters for the year 2022/23.
After discussion and having heard the Chief Officer – People and Technology in
explanation of the nature of the paragraph in question, i.e., it describes the Council’s
General and Public Sector Equality Duties as set out in the Equality Act 2010 and
therefore not being capable of being amended so to include bullying as would render
the content false but that the Forum’s concerns could be incorporated into a
separate paragraph, the Forum heard additionally from the Principal Solicitor, the
Chief Officer – Regulatory and Regeneration and the People, Quality and
Governance Lead in further explanation and in answer to Members’ questions.  
Thereafter, Councillor Bollan, seconded by Mr Halfpenny, moved:-
We request the word ‘bullying’ is added to section 3.2 of the report moving
forward, this would enforce what we are trying to achieve. The wording would
become:-
‘Eliminating discrimination, harassment, victimisation and bullying’
As an amendment, Councillor McBride, seconded by Councillor McGinty, moved:-
The JCF takes elimination of bullying as seriously as discrimination,
harassment and victimisation. We request that the Chief Officer includes
bullying statistics in future equality reports to JCF.
On a vote being taken 4 Members voted for the amendment, namely Councillors
Murray Conaghan, McBride, McGinty and Rooney, and 8 Members voted for the
motion, namely Councillor Bollan, Mr Dolan, Mr Halfpenny, Mr Scott, Ms MacKenzie,
Mr Davenport, Ms Shannon, Mr Smith, Mr King and Ms Wood.  The motion was
accordingly declared carried.

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TRADES UNION ISSUES 
‘HSCP Redesign’ (item requested by Joint Trades Union) 
Mr Scott provided the undernoted statement in advance of the meeting in relation to
the above issue. 
Lack of information (job profiles redesign) and request to show training
records still not received. 
Lack consultation (medication policy). 
Has been discussed at all levels with management/JSF. 
Having heard Mr Scott, it was noted that the trades union and HSCP officers had
discussed this matter outwith the Forum and that consequently it would not be raised
at the present meeting. 
PROGRAMME OF FUTURE MEETINGS 
The Forum agreed the undernoted dates, times and venues for future meetings:- 
• Thursday, 14 December 2023 at 2.00 p.m. in the Council Chambers,
Clydebank Town Hall.
• Thursday, 14 March 2024 at 2.00 p.m. in the Civic Space, 16 Church
Street, Dumbarton.
• Thursday, 13 June 2024 at 2.00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, Clydebank
Town Hall.
• Thursday, 12 September 2024 at 2.00 p.m. in the Civic Space, 16 Church
Street, Dumbarton. 
The meeting closed at 2.55 p.m.