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Minute 26.03.24

Renfrewshire Council · 14 May 2024
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Minute of Meeting
Renfrewshire Council Joint Negotiating Committee for
Teaching Staff 
Date Time Venue
Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:00 Corporate Meeting Room 2, Renfrewshire
House, 
PRESENT
Representing Renfrewshire Council Management 
Councillor J Paterson; E Henry and G Lyons, both Interim Head of Education (Childrens’
Services); and M Boyd, Head of People & Organisational Development and S Fanning,
Principal HR & OD Adviser (both Finance & Resources). 
Representing Renfrewshire Council Teaching Staff 
K Fella (Joint Secretary), B Kelly, Y Murray, M Russell, D Tollan and JP Tonner (all EIS); R
Kane (SSTA); and P Binns (NASUWT). 
IN ATTENDANCE
D Low, Democratic Services Manager and D Cunningham, Committee Services & Licensing
Officer (both Finance & Resources). 
APOLOGIES
Councillor Rodden; A Hall, M Thomas and J Colquhoun, all Education Managers
(Development); K Henry, Head Teacher, St Andrews Academy; J Houston, Head Teacher,
Mossvale Primary School; L Gibson (NASUWT); T Millar (EIS) and D Baxter, Adviser to
Teachers’ Side (EIS). 
DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST AND TRANSPARENCY STATEMENTS
There were no declarations of interest or transparency statements intimated prior to the
commencement of the meeting.

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ORDER OF BUSINESS
It was advised that Item 6 of the Agenda had been withdrawn and would be considered
at a future meeting of the Renfrewshire Joint Negotiating Committee. 
1 CHAIRPERSON
In accordance with the terms of the local recognition and procedure agreement, which
stated that the Chair of the Committee should alternate between the two sides
comprising the Renfrewshire Council Joint Negotiating Committee for Teaching Staff, it
was agreed that Mr John Paul Tonner would chair this meeting of the Renfrewshire
Council Joint Negotiating Committee for Teaching Staff. 
DECIDED: That Mr John Paul Tonner chair this meeting of the Renfrewshire Council
Joint Negotiating Committee for Teaching Staff. 
2 MINUTE OF PREVIOUS MEETING
There was submitted the Minute of the meeting held on 6 February 2024. 
DECIDED:  That the Minute be approved 
3 MATTERS ARISING
Under reference to Item 4 of the Minute, Violence and Aggression Update, the Principal
HR & OD Adviser informed JNC members that he had not received notification of any
specific issues in terms of reporting incidents on Business World (BW). There followed
a general discussion on reporting incidents using BW and it was agreed that Members
would notify the Principal HR & OD Adviser of any problems for these to be addressed. 
Under reference to Item 5 of the Minute, JNC/20 Scheme for the Appointment of
Temporary Teachers to Permanent Posts, the Teachers’ Side queried whether the
submission date change been updated on the SNCT website. It was advised that A
Hall, Education Manager (Development), would action this. 
Under reference to Item 6 of the Minute, Mobile ‘Phone use in Schools, it was advised
that G Lyons, Interim Head of Education would take this area of work forward. 
Under reference to Item 7 of the Minute, ASN Provision, it was agreed that the Joint
Secretaries would meet to discuss this further. 
Under reference to Item 8 of the Minute, In-Service Days and Time for Trade Union
Meetings, it was raised that time for trade union meetings on in-service days was not
applied consistently across all establishments. The Interim Head of Education advised
that she had emailed a reminder of this requirement to all Head Teachers and that she
would discuss this with the Teachers’ Side separately to identify specific cases where
this time was not being provided. 
DECIDED:

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(a) That Members of the JNC would notify the Principal HR & OD Adviser of any
problems reporting incidents via Business World; 
(b) That the amendment to the submission date for JNC/20 applications be updated on
the SNCT website; 
(c) That the review of the Mobile Phone Use in Schools policy be taken forward; 
(d) That the Joint Secretaries would meet to discuss ASN Provision; and 
(e) That the Interim Head of Education would discuss specific examples with the
Teachers’ Side where time for Trade Union meetings had not been provided 
4 ACTION LOG
The action log for the JNC was submitted. 
DECIDED: That the updates to the action log be noted   
5 TRANSITION OF CHILDREN AND YOUNG PEOPLE WITH
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT NEEDS - PART ONE
There was submitted a report by The Interim Head of Education relative to the provision
of an update to Members of the JNC on the revised Transition of Children with
Additional Support Needs Policy which was approved by the Education and Children’s
Services Policy Board on 14 March 2024. 
There was a general discussion around the various stages of transition and the
challenges faced due to the increased number of pupils who required ASN support
coupled with the reduced numbers of ASN teachers and support staff. The improved
number of Early Years pupils in enhanced transition as a result of the early detection of
support requirements was highlighted by the Interim Head of Education. 
DECIDED: That the content of the report be noted. 
6 LOCAL GOVERNMENT BUDGET AND MAINTENANCE OF TEACHER
AND SUPPORT STAFF NUMBERS
There was submitted a report by the Joint Secretary (Teachers’ Side) relative to
Renfrewshire Council’s Revenue Budget and Council Tax 2024/25 which was approved
at the Council meeting on 29 February 2024. 
The report highlighted statements made by the Director of Finance & Resources
regarding the maintenance of teaching and support staff numbers. The Teachers’ Side
sought assurances: that all conditions related to maintaining staffing numbers would be
satisfied. 
The Interim Head of Service confirmed that the 2024/25 Budget set out no change to
teacher and support staff numbers but highlighted that this was also subject to factors
such as recruitment processes and the retention of staff.

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DECIDED: 
(a) That the 2024/25 Budget set out no change to teacher and support staff numbers;
and  
(b) That otherwise the content of the report be noted. 
7 DATE OF NEXT MEETING
Members were asked to note that the next meeting of the Renfrewshire Council Joint
Negotiating Committee for Teaching Staff was scheduled to be held at 2.00pm on 14
May 2024.