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Renfrewshire Council · 14 March 2024
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Minute of Meeting
Education and Children's Services Policy Board 
Date Time Venue
Thursday, 14 March 2024 13:00 Council Chambers (Renfrewshire), Council
Headquarters, Renfrewshire House, Cotton
Street, Paisley, PA1 1AN 
Present: Councillor Jennifer Adam, Councillor Fiona Airlie-Nicolson, Ms Mary Jane Bird,
Provost Lorraine Cameron, Councillor Carolann Davidson, Councillor Audrey Doig, Councillor
Edward Grady, Councillor Gillian Graham, Councillor Anne Hannigan, Councillor Lisa-Marie
Hughes, Councillor Alec Leishman, Councillor David McGonigle, Councillor Iain McMillan,
Councillor Will Mylet, Mr Jack Nellaney, Councillor Iain Nicolson, Councillor Jim Paterson,
Councillor Emma Rodden, Mr Ravinder Singh, Councillor Ben Smith 
Chair
Councillor Rodden, Convener, presided. 
In Attendance
J O'Neill, Director of Children's Services, E Henry, Interim Head of Education, G Lyons,
Interim Head of Service and J Trainer, Head of Child Care & Criminal Justice (all Children's
Services); and M Conaghan, Head of Corporate Governance, R Conway, Finance
Business Partner, E Gray, Senior Committee Services Officer and D Cunningham,
Committee Services and Licensing Officer (all Finance & Resources). 
Webcasting of Meeting
Prior to the commencement of the meeting the Convener intimated that this meeting of the
Board would be filmed for live or subsequent broadcast on the Council's internet site. 
Declarations of Interest
There were no declarations of interest intimated prior to the commencement of the
meeting.

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Transparency Statements
Councillor McMillan indicated that he had a connection to item 2 by reason of his son
being employed by BAE Systems. However, he indicated that he had applied the
objective test and did not consider he had an interest to declare.  
Councillor Paterson indicated that he had a connection to item 1 by reason of having
a child who was attending a school which was in receipt of funding. However, he
indicated that he had applied the objective test and did not consider he had an
interest to declare.  
Councillor Paterson indicated that he had a connection to item 6 by reason of having
a child who was entitled to 1140 provision and attended a partnership nursery.
However, he indicated that he had applied the objective test and did not consider he
had an interest to declare.  
Councillor Davidson indicated that she had a connection to item 6 by reason of having
a grandchild who was entitled to 1140 provision and attended a partnership nursery.
However, she indicated that she had applied the objective test and did not consider
she had an interest to declare. 
1 Revenue and Capital Budget Monitoring as at 5 January 2024
There was submitted a joint revenue & capital budget monitoring report by the
Director of Finance & Resources and the Director of Children's Services for the period
to 5 January 2024.  
The report intimated that the projected revenue outturn at 31 March 2024 for
Children’s Services was an overspend of £1.888 million against the revised budget for
the year. The projected capital outturn at 31 March 2024 for Children’s Services was
an underspend of £0.143 million.  
DECIDED:  
(a) That the projected revenue outturn position for Children’s Services detailed in
Table 1 of the report be noted, and that it be further noted that the forecast position
was based on best estimates and confirmed government support at the time;  
(b) That the projected capital outturn position for Children’s Services detailed in Table
2 of the report be noted; and  
(c) That the budget adjustments detailed in sections 4 and 6 of the report be noted.

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2  Learning Estate Update
There was submitted a report by the Director of Children's Services relative to
the current capital projects to develop and improve the learning estate.  
The report provided an update in terms of the work around the new primary school in
Dargavel and advised that the Council had engaged with Space Zero to develop
a strategic planning brief which involved engagement with key stakeholders, visioning
sessions, focus groups and general data gathering around requirements and
expectations for the new school. This work would inform the next key stage in the
design process which was the production of an accommodation schedule, which
would in turn enable clearer cost forecasting before producing the final brief to be
handed over to the architects.  
The report also advised that the solution for the internal alterations at the existing
Dargavel Primary School had been agreed and that work was expected to take place
during the summer of 2024 and be completed prior to the commencement of the
2024/25 school session.    
In respect of Park Mains High School, works to repurpose the existing modular unit
were underway, with an expected completion date of April 2024.  Four steering group
sessions had been carried out and the feedback from these would be used to finalise
the strategic brief.  
In respect of Bishopton Primary School, it was advised that work was underway to
replace the current classroom block with a permanent facility and work was expected
to be completed prior to the commencement of the 2024/25 school session.  
DECIDED: That the content of the report be noted.  
Sederunt
Jack Nellaney joined the meeting during consideration of the following item of
business. 
3 Attainment of 2022/23 School Leavers
There was submitted a report by the Director of Children's Services relative to the
performance of the 2022/23 leavers cohort in four key measures: attainment in
literacy and numeracy; improving attainment for all; attainment versus deprivation;
and leavers’ destinations.  
The Scottish Government's evaluation tool, INSIGHT, had been used to benchmark
the performance in each of the key measures. It was noted that this cohort were the
first since the pandemic who were not impacted by the cancellation of exams in 2020
however their results did include the alternative certification model in 2021.

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The report set out the data for each key measure and made comparisons to previous
years and the national average. Details on the poverty related attainment gap were
provided together with the impact of the work which had been undertaken around
improving attainment for all.  
DECIDED:  
(a) That the content of the report be noted; and  
(b) That the efforts of Renfrewshire's young people and the school communities in
bringing about these results be noted. 
4 Distribution of Funding to Support Services for Children and
Families – Funding Allocation for 2024/25
There was submitted a report by the Director of Children's Services relative to the
Council's contribution to early years provision in Renfrewshire through the allocation
of funding to support a range of private and voluntary sector organisations which
delivered services for families with young children.  
The report provided information on the proposed allocation of funding during 2024/25
to out of school care groups in the private and voluntary sector and for early years
voluntary sector organisations, playgroups and toddler groups. The proposed awards
were set out in full in Appendices 1-3 of the report.  
DECIDED:  
(a) That the resource allocation to support the delivery of services for children and
young people as outlined in Appendix 1 to the report be approved; and  
(b) That the proposed allocation of grant funding for out of school care and pre-five
voluntary sector, as detailed in Appendices 2 and 3 of the report be agreed, subject to
the completion of satisfactory checks and assessments. 
5 Early Learning and Childcare Consultation - 2023
There was submitted a report by the Director of Children's Services relative to
the Early Learning and Childcare consultation which was carried out between August
and October 2023. The findings of the consultation were set out in full at Appendix 1
to the report.  
The report outlined the Council's duty under the Children and Young People
(Scotland) Act 2014 to consult representative populations of parents and carers on
how mandatory early learning and childcare, day care, out of school care and
discretional services should be made available. This consultation was carried out in
2023 with 723 responses received.  A summary of the key findings were set out in
section 4 of the report together with detailed findings and analysis provided at
Appendix 1.  
DECIDED: That the findings of the Early Learning and Childcare Consultation - 2023,
as set out in the appendix to the report, be noted.

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6  Early Learning and Childcare Entitlement – Proposed Changes to
Starting Dates for Children Aged 3
There was submitted a report by the Director of Children's Services relative to
proposed changes to the starting date in terms of 1,140 hours of childcare entitlement
for three-year-olds in Renfrewshire.  
The report detailed the variance between the Scottish Government’s Early Learning
and Childcare Statutory Guidance and the current practice in Renfrewshire which
resulted in some children aged three years of age in Renfrewshire accessing their
early learning and childcare place in advance of the recommended starting dates. The
report proposed an alignment between the Council's practice and the Scottish
Government's guidance. 
Councillor Rodden, seconded by Councillor Paterson, moved:  
(a) That the proposal to realign child entitlement to 1,140 hours of early learning and
childcare to the Early Learning and Childcare Statutory Guidance, July 2021 be
approved;  
(b) That it be noted that the change to starting dates would take effect from the first
day of the new school session in August 2024; and  
(c) That the changes to Standard Circular 3a: Early Learning and Childcare
Admissions policy guidance for staff to reflect the change to entitlement be noted.  
Councillor G Graham, seconded by Councillor McMillan, moved as an amendment
that the recommendations set out in Section 2 of the report not be approved.  
On the roll being called, the following members voted for the amendment: Councillors
Davidson, Grady, G Graham, Hannigan, Leishman, McGonigle, McMillan, Mr
Ravinder Singh and Councillor Smith.  
The following members voted for the motion: Councillors Adam, Airlie-Nicolson, Ms
Bird, Provost Cameron, Councillors Audrey Doig, Hughes, Mylet, Nicolson, Paterson
and Rodden.  
The following member abstained: Mr Jack Nellaney.  
10 members having voted for the motion, 9 members having voted for the amendment
and 1 member having abstained, the motion was declared carried.  
DECIDED:  
(a) That the proposal to realign child entitlement to 1,140 hours of early learning and
childcare to the Early Learning and Childcare Statutory Guidance, July 2021 be
approved;  
(b) That it be noted that the change to starting dates would take effect from the first
day of the new school session in August 2024; and

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(c) That the changes to Standard Circular 3a: Early Learning and Childcare
Admissions policy guidance for staff to reflect the change to entitlement be noted. 
7 Transition of Children and Young People with Additional Support
Needs - Part One
There was submitted a report by the Director of Children's Services relative to
proposed changes to the Transition of Children and Young People with Additional
Support Needs policy.  The policy was set out in full at Appendix 1 to the report.  
The report made reference to the Code of Practice (ASL Act 2009) which set out the
requirements of Education authorities when planning school education changes for
children and young people and summarised the best practice. It was advised that Part
1 of the policy, appended to the report, focussed on the transitions from early years to
primary school and from primary school to secondary school and would be
complimented by a parent friendly version which was being developed by the
Parent/Carer Ambassador Group.  Part 2 of the policy was being developed and
would focus on supporting the transition of children and young people with additional
support needs from school to adult life.  
DECIDED:  
(a) That the Transitions of Children and Young People with Additional Support Needs
(Part 1) policy be approved; and  
(b) That the Director of Children’s Services be instructed to take appropriate steps to
ensure the above policy's implementation in all schools and early learning and
childcare settings across Renfrewshire.  
Transparency Statement
Councillor Davidson indicated that she had a connection to item 8 by reason of her
daughter being employed in the residential care sector. However, she indicated that
she had applied the objective test and did not consider she had an interest to declare. 
8 Renfrewshire children outwith the care of their birth family
There was submitted a report by the Director of Children's Services relative to
Renfrewshire children who were cared for outwith their birth family.  
The report set out the Council's duty under the Children (Scotland) Act 1995 to
support children in need of care and protection to live with their families and that this
option was sought in the first instance before examining kinship care and either foster
carers or residential provision where children could not be safely cared for by their
own parents.

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It was advised that on 29 February 2024 183 children were cared for outwith their
birth family by Renfrewshire Council.  Section 3 of the report provided further analysis
around the number of children cared for by the Renfrewshire Fostering Service;
independent foster care; internal residential children’s houses; external residential
provision; secure care; settings for children with disabilities; specialist therapeutic
settings; residential schools; and external residential children’s houses. The report
also set out the requirement for all children who were cared for outwith their birth
family to have their placement and plan reviewed at least once every six months.  
DECIDED:  
(a) That it be noted that Children’s Services operated a general duty under Section 22
of the Children (Scotland) Act 1995 to support children in need of care and support to
live with their families;  
(b) That the information in relation to children cared for outwith their birth family be
noted; and  
(c) That it be agreed that information on Renfrewshire’s looked after children be
reported to this Policy Board on an annual basis.