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Minute of Meeting of Scrutiny and Performance Committee of 1 February 2023 for Approval

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SCRUTINY AND PERFORMANCE COMMITTEE 
Minute of hybrid meeting of the Scrutiny and Performance Committee held in the
Council Chambers, 2 High Street, Perth, on Wednesday 1 February 2023 at 10:00am. 
Present: Councillor C Stewart, Bailie A Bailey, Councillors K Allan, S Carr, E Drysdale,
A Forbes, M Frampton, I Massie, W Robertson, C Shiers and F Smith. 
In Attendance: B Renton (Executive Director, Communities); S Devlin (Executive
Director, Education and Children’s Services); B Murray, D Littlejohn and K Smith
(Communities) L Simpson, K Molley, A Brown and M Pasternak (all Corporate and
Democratic Services). 
Councillor C Stewart, Convener, Presiding. 
1. WELCOME AND APOLOGIES 
The Convener welcomed all those present to the meeting. 
2. DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST 
No declarations of interest were made in terms of the Councillors’ Code of
Conduct. 
3. MINUTE OF MEETING OF THE SCRUTINY AND PERFORMANCE
COMMITTEE OF 30 NOVEMBER 2022 
The minute of meeting of the Scrutiny and Performance Committee of 30
November 2022 was submitted and approved as a correct record. 
4. OUTSTANDING BUSINESS STATEMENT 
Resolved: 
The status of actions in the Outstanding Business Statement, be noted and
completed actions removed accordingly. 
5. SCRUTINY AND PERFORMANCE COMMITTEE FORWARD PLANNER 
Resolved:
The Scrutiny and Performance Committee Forward Planner for 2023, be noted. 
6. PLANNING PERFORMANCE FRAMEWORK 11 (2021 – 22) 
There was submitted a report by the Head of Planning and Development (23/28)
relating to the Perth and Kinross Performance Framework 11 (2021-22) (PPF11). 
In response to a question from Councillor Forbes regarding engagement with
NHS Tayside about the provision of medical services when giving approval to large

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planning developments, K Smith advised that engagement occurs with NHS Tayside
primarily during the preparation of a new Local Development Plan. They are consulted
on the various allocations proposed and are given the opportunity to provide feedback
or raise any issues, which would be incorporated into the Local Development Plan. In
response to another question from Councillor Forbes, B Murray confirmed that
engagement would continue with NHS Tayside in relation to LDP3. She added that the
development of the new National Planning Framework would make it easier for earlier
engagement with all stakeholders in the process. 
Members requested for the protocol on Engagement with NHS Tayside and the
NHS response to the 2015 Consultation of the LDP2 to be circulated. 
In response to a question from Bailie Bailey regarding specific criteria in carrying
out in person site visits, K Smith advised that careful consideration would be taken in
accessing the requirement of an in-person site visit. The decision made would be in line
with the guidance published on the Council website. He added that a risk-based
assessment would always be undertaken, and the decision would be based on the
information made available which can vary across different applications and sometimes
more data would be requested. To improve the transparency of the decision-making
process of site-visits, Bailie Bailey suggested including this as a future service
improvement in PPF12. 
In response to a question from Councillor Shiers regarding challenges of staffing
and recruitment, D Littlejohn advised that nationally there is a shortage of qualified
Planners in Scotland. He confirmed that the project Future Planners is underway by the
Scottish Government and the Royal Town Planning Institute to increase provision and
help reduce staffing shortages by gaining more qualified Planners. D Littlejohn added
that Building Standards have introduced a Modern Apprentice Scheme and Planning
are also looking to roll out the programme in the hope to gain more individuals into the
sector. Locally, there are plans for engagement with senior pupils across schools in
Perth and Kinross to raise awareness and encourage young individuals to think about a
career in Planning. 
In response to a similar question from Councillor Forbes regarding staffing
issues in Perth and Kinross Council, D Littlejohn advised that nearly all vacancies in
Planning and Development in the Council have been filled. There has also been strong
support for the graduate programme with three employees currently in post. D Littlejohn
highlighted the long-term benefits of working for a local authority, including a career
average pension, sick pay entitlement, childcare vouchers, access to the car lease
scheme and flexible working. However, individuals may choose to leave the
organisation due to enhanced wages offered by the Private Sector. 
In response to a question from Councillor Shiers regarding community
engagement on the planning process and development of LDP’s, B Murray advised that
early engagement with Community Councils, Development Trusts, community groups,
schools, and young people, would be undertaken in relation to LDP3. She added that
drop-in sessions would be arranged to help raise awareness and these would be
extended across communities in Perth and Kinross. In addition, PKC have encouraged
community groups to hold their own events to gather information and evidence from
communities on their thoughts of the area to feed into the overall engagement process.
In response to another question from Councillor Shiers, K Smith added that PKC are

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happy to offer advice and training to Community Council members on their role in the
planning application process. 
In response to a question from Councillor Massie, David Littlejohn advised that
several elected member briefing sessions are planned, including for the new LDP
process and NPF4.   
In response to a question from Councillor Allan, K Smith advised that PKC
perform well in the Scottish average and officers continue to look at year on year
improvement. In response to a question from Councillor C Stewart regarding the
number of complaints received and how this can be captured, D Littlejohn confirmed
that this could be included in future performance reports.   
In response to a question from Councillor Forbes regarding cost recovery for
planning applications, D Littlejohn advised that the full cost of running the Development
Management system can be fully recovered through fees. The most recent fee
increases made significant progress but there is still an unequal gap across authorities
that have a greater number of major applications than authorities that are processing
many household applications. D Littlejohn added that due to the impact of factors such
as inflation and construction, it may be a couple of years before further changes are
made to planning fees.   
Regarding case studies, members highlighted the benefit of sharing examples of
good and not so good practice so service performance can be properly scrutinised by
elected members and improvements made can be analysed. 
Members thanked officers for their work in preparing the Planning Performance
Framework 11. 
Resolved:
(i) The contents of Report 23/28, be scrutinised. 
(ii) The appended Ministerial feedback received, be scrutinised. 
(iii) Suggestions to the case studies and service improvements to be included in
PPF12, be scrutinised. 
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