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Argyll and Bute Council · 18 March 2024
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Argyll and Bute Council 
Comhairle Earra-Ghàidheal Agus Bhòid 
Executive Director:  Douglas Hendry 
Kilmory, Lochgilphead, PA31 8RT
Tel:  01546 602127  Fax:  01546 604435
DX 599700 LOCHGILPHEAD
11 March 2024 
NOTICE OF MEETING 
A meeting of the COWAL TRANSPORT FORUM will be held BY MICROSOFT TEAMS on
MONDAY, 18 MARCH 2024 at 2:00 PM, which you are requested to attend. 
Douglas Hendry
Executive Director 
BUSINESS 
1. APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE 
2. DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST 
3. MINUTES (Pages 3 - 8)  
Minutes of the meeting of the Cowal Transport Forum held on Tuesday 12 December
2023 
4. FERRIES UPDATE 
Opportunity for verbal updates by Cowal Transport Forum Members 
5. PUBLIC TRANSPORT 
(a) Kilmun Community Council bus service survey 
Verbal update by Kilmun Community Council  
(b) Opportunity for verbal updates by Cowal Transport Forum Members 
6. ROADS UPDATE 
Opportunity for verbal updates by Cowal Transport Forum Members 
7. POLICE SCOTLAND 
Update from Police Scotland 
8. TRANSPORT SCOTLAND 
Update from Transport Scotland 
9. ANY OTHER COMPETENT BUSINESS 
10. DATE OF NEXT MEETING 
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To be confirmed 
Cowal Transport Forum 
Councillor Daniel Hampsey (Chair) Councillor William Sinclair (Vice-Chair)   
Contact: Julieann Small, Senior Committee Assistant - 01546 604043

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MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COWAL TRANSPORT FORUM HELD BY MICROSOFT
TEAMS 
ON TUESDAY, 12 DECEMBER 2023 
Present: Councillor Daniel Hampsey (Chair) 
Councillor Ross Moreland
Stuart McLean, Committee Manager, Argyll and Bute Council
Captain Alistair McLundie, Western Ferries
Neil MacFarlane, Transport Scotland
Neil Stewart, West Coast Motors
Allan Comrie, Strathclyde Partnership for Transport (SPT)
Inspector Bart Simonis, Police Scotland
David Clough, Dunoon Community Council
Frauke Thornton, Dunoon Community Council
Kerris Bone, Kilmun Community Council
Tom Murray, Lochgoilhead Community Council
Kirstie Reid, Strachur Community Council
Gordon Ross, Western Ferries
Ronald McAlister, Bute Ferry Group
Tommy Gore, Calmac 
Attending: Robert Trybis, Dunoon Gourock Ferry Action Group 
1. APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE 
The Chair welcomed everyone to the meeting. 
Apologies for absence were received from: 
Councillor Audrey Forrest;
Councillor William Sinclair;
Graham Revill, Kilmun Community Council;
Michael Breslin, South Cowal Community Council; and
Dave Cooper, Hunters Quay Community Council. 
2. DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST 
There were no declarations of interest. 
3. MINUTES 
The minutes of the meeting of the Cowal Transport Forum held on Wednesday 13
September 2023 were approved as a correct record. 
The Chair passed on his thanks to all Council staff and Partners who responded to the
disruption caused by the severe weather events on and around the 7 October and advised
of a planned roundtable meeting with Jenni Minto MSP, Scotrail, Calmac and Local
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councillors to discuss related transport issues. Councillor Hampsey also advised of the
proposed Active Travel route for Dunoon. 
4. FERRIES UPDATE 
(a) Travel Subsides - Discussion led by David Clough, Dunoon Community
Council 
David Clough from Dunoon Community highlighted that he had attended the Bute
and Cowal Area Community Planning Group in August and that Mr Ross of Western
Ferries had attended and had suggested that if Western Ferries had access to the
same level of subsidies offered to Calmac, Western Ferries fares could be halved
and a direct Dunoon/Glasgow bus introduced.   
Mr Clough highlighted that connectivity is crucial for the area with their being a lack
of integration between existing ferry services and the rail network. Mr Clough also
suggested that Transport Scotland would not be retendering the ferry contract which
would likely be awarded to Calmac. 
Mr Ross advised that he believes that the current annual subsidy for the Dunoon to
Gourock service amounted to around £5 million which equated to around £25 per
passenger. 
Robert Trybis reported that Harbours fees out weight the operational cost of the ferry
and that it is the wish of the Dunoon Gourock Ferry Action Group and 5 Community
Councils that Argyll and Bute Council and CMAL agree a long term lease of the
Linkspan. 
Kerris Bone advised that as a frequent user of Western Ferries she had not seen
any more than five foot passengers on the service and that the Dunoon Linkspan is
very important. 
Kirstie Reid advised she had attended the Clyde, Kintyre and the Islands Ferry
Stakeholder Group and had noted some concerns around ferry users onward
journeys via Scotrail services being interrupted due to poor timetabling. Alan Comrie
advised that timetables had been revised and that the ferries dock at 15 and 45
minutes past the hour with associated rail services departing at 26 and 56 minutes
past the hour. The Chair raised a similar concern on behalf of Councillor William
Sinclair. 
Outcome 
The Forum: 
1. noted the information provided; and 
2. noted that the Chair would contact relevant stakeholders to explore the possibility
of holding a meeting, early in 2024, to discuss the most cost effective way of
improving connectivity between Dunoon Town Centre and Gourock Railway
Station. 
(b) Opportunity for verbal updates by Cowal Transport Forum Members 
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Western Ferries 
Gordon Ross advised that Western Ferries had issues with one of their vessels
during the early part of December but all four vessels were now back in operation.
Mr Ross highlighted that the Christmas timetable was now agreed with limited
services over Christmas, Boxing day and the 1st and 2nd January with the timetable
available on Western Ferries website. 
Outcome 
The Forum noted the update from Western Ferries. 
Calmac 
Tommy Gore advised that the MV Ali Cat had recently been unavailable as it was
undergoing an annual overhaul and that the two vessel service has since returned.
Mr Gore highlighted that due to three separate technical events the Dunoon
Linkspan was unusable and as such a replacement bus service had been provided. 
Kerris Bone raised concerns around the way in which ferry disruptions were
advertised, adding that older people do not always have access to the website to
find this out. 
Outcome 
The Forum noted the update from Calmac and that further consideration would be
given to the way in which ferry disruptions are advertised. 
5. PUBLIC TRANSPORT 
(a) Public Transport Update 
A written update on Public Transport had been provided from the Contract Officer at
Argyll and Bute Council. The update provided information on a request from the
NHS to provide further bus services serving Cowal Community Hospital; requests
from Community interest groups; discussions with West Coast Motors on options for
serving North Campbell Road and the possibility of providing a Saturday afternoon
service to Strachur; consideration of later bus services from Dunoon to Ardentinny
and the luggage capacity of the Dunoon Grammar School/Hostel bus. 
Outcome 
The Forum noted the update from the Contract Officer, Argyll and Bute Council. 
(b) Opportunity for verbal updates by Cowal Transport Forum Members 
West Coast Motors 
Neil Stewart provided the Forum with an update on the services being delivered by
West Coast Motors. Neil advised that there had been a drop in concessionary fare
users although there had been an uplift in under 22s travelling. Mr Stewart
highlighted that West Coast Motors strive to make the service better for all users
however they are limited in the mileage they can provide, consequently if a new
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route is added the mileage would have to be removed from another. 
Mr Stewart advised 68% of all Pingo users were over 60s, 11% were fair payers and
only 21% were 5-15 year olds. 
Outcome 
The Forum noted the update from West Coast Motors. 
6. ROADS UPDATE 
(a) Opportunity for verbal updates by Cowal Transport Forum Members 
Kirstie Reid advised that the road at Loch Eck recently been flooded on both sides
and asked when the white lines would be reinstated on the Hamilton Street/Victoria
Road. 
Tom Murray asked for an update on the B828 Glenmore road which had been shut
since October. 
The Committee Manager advised that Dave Cooper had raised the matter of the
signage on Marine Parade and advised that it was his understanding that a new
local roads officer would be in post shortly and would pick this up. 
Frauke Thornton highlighted the new laws for parking on pavements and lowered
kerbs had recently been introduced and that, as far as she was aware, Argyll and
Bute Council would not be enforcing this. Miss Thornton advised that this is a
particular problem at the Queens Hall, Dunoon with people parking on lowered kerbs
and in front of the War Memorial. 
Kirstie Reid advised that she had heard that all traffic wardens in Argyll and Bute
were in a meeting about parking on the pavements and would be issuing tickets. 
Outcome 
The Forum noted that the Chair would raise these issues with the responsible
Council Department and update Partners accordingly. 
7. POLICE SCOTLAND 
Inspector Bart Simonis had to leave the meeting prior to this agenda item, the Committee
Manager provided the following update on his behalf: 
I have contacted all of the Speed Watch volunteers and asked for their permission to
submit disclosure forms to Police Scotland Disclosure team, I am still waiting on several
replies and will send out the disclosure forms after Christmas. 
Kirsty Reid, Strachur Community Council advised that people are continuing to cycle
along the pavements on Argyll Street, Dunoon which is causing danger for the elderly
people. 
Outcome
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The Forum noted that the information provided by Police Scotland. 
8. TRANSPORT SCOTLAND 
Neil MacFarlane provided the Forum with a verbal update, advising that the resurfacing
along the A83 at various locations from Arrochar to Campbeltown was almost finished and
that the resurfacing programme would recommence in February for a further 3 weeks. Mr
MacFarlane advised that Bear Scotland were aware of the potholes outside the Loch Long
Hotel and that there has been a significant number of flooding issues reported along the
A83.   
Kerris Bone highlighted that Kilmun is very dangerous due to a significant number of road
works and many raised culverts. 
Outcome 
The Forum: 
1. noted the update from Transport Scotland; and 
2. noted that the Committee Manager would contact the Roads Department in relation to
the culverts reported along Kilmun. 
9. ANY OTHER COMPETENT BUSINESS 
There was no other competent business. 
10. DATE OF NEXT MEETING 
The Chair thanked everyone in attendance at the meeting and the Group noted that the
Committee Manager would circulate a calendar invite for a meeting, week beginning 18
March 2024 in due course. 
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