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Briefing Note - Petition to Urge Perth and Kinross to Build an Ambitious PH2O Facility

Perth and Kinross Council · 26 February 2025
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PERTH AND KINROSS COUNCIL
26 February 2025
Petition: Urge Perth and Kinross Council to Build an Ambitious PH2O Facility
Briefing Report by Strategic Lead - Property Services
(Report No. 25/34)
1. Purpose
1.1 The purpose of the report is to provide initial professional and/or technical
advice to Council in response to the petition.
2. Background
2.1 On 4 September 2024, Council approved Thimblerow as the site for the m
new PH2O with the following facilities mix (Report 24/242 refers).
 25m Pool 8 lane (Moveable Floor)
 Further options and costs of adding leisure water to be explored as
part of the next stage of design work.
 12.5m x 8.5m Teaching Pool (Moveable Floor)
 Toddler splashpad
 Indoor Play Area (potential Clip n’ Climb or other family play activity)
 Games Hall
 Fitness Gym 
 Studio 1 (flexible) 
 Studio 2 (flexible)
 Studio 3 (flexible)
 Café
2.2 Approval of the Thimblerow site recognised a number of additional benefits:
 Avoiding loss of either swimming or ice provision during the construction
period (approx. 2 years) as Perth Leisure Pool and the Dewars Centre
can continue to operate unimpeded during the construction phase, which
would not be possible if the original business case to build on the same
site was implemented;
 Avoiding job losses which may have resulted from existing buildings
closing for construction work;
 Anticipated increased footfall in the city centre from bringing PH2O
closer;
 Opportunity for curling community to develop Dewars Centre through
lease agreement.
2.3 The PH2O site decision was also made as part of a wider series of integrated
investment proposals for Perth city centre which together offer a series of
related benefits to create additional public value for residents, visitors and
businesses.

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These included:
 A new future for Bell’s Sports Centre – public consultation has recently
concluded on options, with the majority of respondents supporting it
becoming an unheated multi-use sports pitches space bringing
additional capacity for in-demand all weather pitches. Further analysis of
the responses and additional feedback received is ongoing.
 Purchase of Pullar House and development as a customer-facing public
sector hub which will be an addition driver for increased footfall
alongside the city centre swimming pool and sports facility.
 Purchase of Kinnoull Street multi-storey car park creating a more
consistent car parking offer in Perth city centre, with the currently under-
used car park being reviewed to create a more appealing offer and offset
the reduction of car parking spaces at Thimblerow.
 In line with Council policy land freed up on the current Perth Leisure Pool
site could become social/ affordable housing to answer the demand for
accommodation in the city.
2.4 Work is ongoing to deliver the decisions of Council, including working with
curling representatives and providing funding to support their feasibility study
for the Dewar’s Centre. Outcomes and progress updates, particularly in
relation to the leisure water options for the Thimblerow site and the future of
Bell’s Sports Centre, will be reported back to Council in due course.
3. Petition
3.1 A valid petition has been received by the Council in relation to the PH2O
proposal.
3.2 The petition seeks:
Perth and Kinross Council to reconsider and/or cancel plans for Perth Leisure
Pool & Dewar's replacement to be built at Thimblerow and to instead approve
& construct a fit for purpose, ambitious replacement facility at the current, and
originally proposed site at Glover Street. This facility should, at a minimum,
have the following -
 Dedicated Leisure Pool/Water with flumes, kids water play park (Similar
to the current Monkey Jungle at Perth Leisure Pool)
 25m six or eight lane training pool
 Ice Rink/Hall
 Large commercial Gym (Similar to the arrangement at Bell's Sport
Centre before closure)
 Fitness Studios
 Sports Halls
 Bowling Hall/Events Hall capable of holding events currently held at
Dewars

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4. Main issues
4.1 The ask of the petitioners is to construct PH2O on the existing Glover Street
site and to provide (as a minimum) the facilities mix specified above, which
aligns with the Outline Business Case (OBC) presented to Council and
subsequently approved at a cost of £85-£90 million as part of the Capital
Budget in February 2022 (Report 22/36 refers).
4.2 In March 2023, the Council decided to pause the project and instructed
officers to undertake a Transformation Review of Leisure Assets (the ‘Leisure
Asset Review’), on the grounds of overall project affordability with increased
loan charge rates, energy price rises and general inflation pressures (Report
23/73 refers).
4.3 Taking into account the findings in relation to usage, market trends and
affordability, the recommendations from the review were to reduce the
facilities mix proposed in the Outline Business Case and to co-locate
PLP/Dewars/Bells onto one site to generate further efficiencies and savings
from property costs. (Report 24/19)
4.4 The review findings and affordability factors informed the revised proposal
(set out above at section 2) which was approved by Council in September
2024. 
4.5 The facilities mix proposed by the Petitioners is the same as that contained in
the original OBC which was deemed unaffordable by Council. The original
borrowing costs, inflation costs, energy and operating assumptions have been
updated for the information of Council, and the table below represents the
current estimated cost of the Petitioner’s proposed facilities mix. 
Sept 2024 Scope
and Costs
Petition
Scope
Variance
Capital Cost £61M £105M £44M
Loan Charges £2.5M pa rising to
£4M pa by year 40
£4.7M rising to
£7.3M pa by
year 40
£2.2M
rising to
£3.3M
Yr 1 Subsidy £1.2M £1.6M £400K
Total Yr 1 Cost £3.7M £6.3M £2.6M
Total Borrowing
Costs (40 years)
£118M £213M £95M
Visitor Numbers 380,143 459,376 79,233
4.6 While the September 2024 capital cost is below the £90m which remains
allocated to PH2O, the balance of funding would also contribute to delivery of
other elements of the leisure assets review including sustaining and
maintaining other leisure facilities in Perth and Kinross and transforming Bell’s
Sports Centre.

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4.7 Comparison of the facilities mix requested by the petitioner and the decisions
of Council through the Perth city integrated investment plan.
Petition request Existing Council
decision
Comparison
Dedicated Leisure
Pool/Water with flumes,
kids water play park
(Similar to the current
Monkey Jungle at Perth
Leisure Pool)
Agreed:
- 8 lane training pool
timetabled for
leisure swimming
- Toddler splashpad
Future decision:
- Officers to bring
back options for
leisure water as
part of next stage
of design work
Full comparison not
possible as options for
leisure water being
developed
25m six or eight lane
training pool
25m 8 lane training pool Met
No request for teaching
pool
12.5m x 8.5m Teaching
Pool
Additional to petition
requests
Ice Rink/Hall Engage with curling/
community groups to
explore interest in a user-
led ice sports facility at
Dewars Centre.
Both options provide for
maintaining ice sports in
Perth, with the agreed
option aligning with
Council approach to
empowering communities
to deliver.
Large commercial Gym
(Similar to the
arrangement at Bell's
Sport Centre before
closure)
Fitness gym Met
Fitness studios 3 x flexible use studios Met
Sports hall Games hall Met
Bowling hall/ Events hall
capable of holding events
currently held at Dewars
No indoor bowling –
previous decision of
Council based on low
user numbers
No specific events hall
space
Point of difference

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5. Conclusion
5.1 The professional and technical advice from officers is that reinstating the
original OBC would face the same overall project affordability challenge which
led to Council deciding to pause and review the project in 2023, and more so
due to the increased estimated costs. The decision of Council in September
2024 to site PH2O at Thimblerow as part of the Perth city integrated
investment plan remains the most cost-effective solution, making the project
affordable, optimising the use of our Perth city estate to deliver better value to
our communities, and supporting opportunities to invest in the wider leisure
estate in Perth and Kinross.