Democracy Spraffa

Item 4(iv) LRB-2022-29

Perth and Kinross Council · 20 September 2022
Back to Local Review Body — 20 September 2022 and its agenda

Text extracted from the council's PDF. Layout and reading order may differ from the original.

Original council PDF · Download plain text

Page 1

4(iv)
LRB-2022-29
LRB-2022-29
21/02017/FLL – Erection of a fence, 1 Commander’s Grove,
Braco, Dunblane
INDEX
(a) Papers submitted by the Applicant (Pages 429-460)
(b) Decision Notice (Pages 463-464)
Report of Handling (Pages 465-470)
Reference Documents (Pages 439-443 and 471)
(c) Representations (Page 459)
427

Page 2

428

Page 3

4(iv)(a)
LRB-2022-29
LRB-2022-29
21/02017/FLL – Erection of a fence, 1 Commander’s Grove,
Braco, Dunblane
PAPERS SUBMITTED
BY THE
APPLICANT
429

Page 4

430

Page 5

Notice of Review
Page 1 of 4
NOTICE OF REVIEW 
UNDER SECTION 43A(8) OF THE TOWN AND COUNTRY PLANNING (SCOTLAND) ACT 1997 (AS AMENDED)IN
RESPECT OF DECISIONS ON  LOCAL DEVELOPMENTS 
THE TOWN AND COUNTRY PLANNING (SCHEMES OF DELEGATION AND LOCAL REVIEW PROCEDURE)
(SCOTLAND) REGULATIONS 2013 
THE TOWN AND COUNTRY PLANNING (APPEALS) (SCOTLAND) REGULATIONS 2008 
IMPORTANT: Please read and follow the guidance notes provided when completing this form.
Failure to supply all the relevant information could invalidate your notice of review. 
Use BLOCK CAPITALS if completing in manuscript 
Applicant(s) 
Name 
Address 
Postcode 
Contact Telephone 1
Contact Telephone 2 
Fax No 
E-mail* 
Agent (if any) 
Name 
Address 
Postcode 
Contact Telephone 1
Contact Telephone 2
Fax No 
E-mail* 
Mark this box to confirm all contact should be
through this representative: 
* Do you agree to correspondence regarding your review being sent by e-mail?
Yes No 
Planning authority 
Planning authority’s application reference number 
Site address 
Description of proposed
development 
Date of application   Date of decision (if any) 
Note. This notice must be served on the planning authority within three months of the date of the decision
notice or from the date of expiry of the period allowed for determining the application. 
JOANNE MCKAY MR I WALLACE
FK15 9HX
23 STRATHMORE AVENUE
DUNBLANE
1 COMMANDERS GROVE
BRACO
FK15 9PL
01786 822594
iancwallace2@aol.com
PERTH AND KINROSS COUNCIL
21/02017/FLL
1 COMMANDERS GROVE, BRACO, FK15 9PL
REMOVAL OF EXISTING 1.8 METRE FENCE AND REINSTATEMENT CLOSER TO BOUNDARY OF GARDEN
6 JANUARY 2022 29 MARCH 2022
431

Page 6

Notice of Review
Page 2 of 4
Nature of application 
1. Application for planning permission (including householder application) 
2. Application for planning permission in principle 
3. Further application (including development that has not yet commenced and where a time limit
has been imposed; renewal of planning permission; and/or modification, variation or removal of
a planning condition) 
4. Application for approval of matters specified in conditions 
Reasons for seeking review 
1.  Refusal of application by appointed officer 
2.  Failure by appointed officer to determine the application within the period allowed for
determination of the application  
3.  Conditions imposed on consent by appointed officer 
Review procedure 
The Local Review Body will decide on the procedure to be used to determine your review and may at any
time during the review process require that further information or representations be made to enable them
to determine the review.  Further information may be required by one or a combination of procedures,
such as: written submissions; the holding of one or more hearing sessions and/or inspecting the land
which is the subject of the review case.   
Please indicate what procedure (or combination of procedures) you think is most appropriate for the
handling of your review. You may tick more than one box if you wish the review to be conducted by a
combination of procedures. 
1. Further written submissions 
2. One or more hearing sessions 
3. Site inspection 
4 Assessment of review documents only, with no further procedure 
If you have marked box 1 or 2, please explain here which of the matters (as set out in your statement
below) you believe ought to be subject of that procedure, and why you consider further submissions or a
hearing are necessary: 
Site inspection 
In the event that the Local Review Body decides to inspect the review site, in your opinion: 
1. Can the site be viewed entirely from public land?
Yes No 
2 Is it possible for the site to be accessed safely, and without barriers to entry?   
If there are reasons why you think the Local Review Body would be unable to undertake an
unaccompanied site inspection, please explain here: 
Recent photos submitted as we are now in growing season
Photos of other fences/hedges in the area
432

Page 7

Notice of Review
Page 3 of 4
Statement 
You must state, in full, why you are seeking a review on your application.  Your statement must set out all
matters you consider require to be taken into account in determining your review.  Note: you may not
have a further opportunity to add to your statement of review at a later date.  It is therefore essential that
you submit with your notice of review, all necessary information and evidence that you rely on and wish
the Local Review Body to consider as part of your review.   
If the Local Review Body issues a notice requesting further information from any other person or body,
you will have a period of 14 days in which to comment on any additional matter which has been raised by
that person or body. 
State here the reasons for your notice of review and all matters you wish to raise.  If necessary, this can
be continued or provided in full in a separate document.  You may also submit additional documentation
with this form. 
Have you raised any matters which were not before the appointed officer at the time the
determination on your application was made? 
Yes No 
If yes, you should explain in the box below, why you are raising new material, why it was not raised with
the appointed officer before your application was determined and why you consider it should now be
considered in your review. 
Attached
433

Page 8

Notice of Review
Page 4 of 4
List of documents and evidence 
Please provide a list of all supporting documents, materials and evidence which you wish to submit with
your notice of review and intend to rely on in support of your review. 
Note. The planning authority will make a copy of the notice of review, the review documents and any
notice of the procedure of the review available for inspection at an office of the planning authority until
such time as the review is determined.  It may also be available on the planning authority website. 
Checklist 
Please mark the appropriate boxes to confirm you have provided all supporting documents and evidence
relevant to your review: 
Full completion of all parts of this form 
Statement of your reasons for requiring a review 
All documents, materials and evidence which you intend to rely on (e.g. plans and drawings
or other documents) which are now the subject of this review. 
Note. Where the review relates to a further application e.g. renewal of planning permission or
modification, variation or removal of a planning condition or where it relates to an application for approval
of matters specified in conditions, it is advisable to provide the application reference number, approved
plans and decision notice from that earlier consent. 
Declaration 
I the applicant/agent [delete as appropriate] hereby serve notice on the planning authority to 
review the application as set out on this form and in the supporting documents. 
Signed  Date 
Supporting Statement
Existing site plan
Location plan
Proposed site plan
Photos -
Existing garden area 1,2,3
Fence pulled down
Various photos showing 6 foot fences or high hedges up to centre of Braco
Similiar idea to what we have planned for shrubbery area at corner
J McKay 8/6/2022
434

Page 9

We feel we have been treated unfairly in respect of the decision to refuse to allow us to
move our fence. 
- There is an existing 6 foot fence joining a feature wall. Out with this there is an area
of garden ground which forms part of our plot. 30 years ago it was designated as a
visibility splay but as the surrounding landscape has matured it no longer functions
as a visibility splay. Before we applied for planning permission we asked for a site
visit from roads and transport, they agreed that it no longer worked as a visibility
splay and agreed we could put up a 6 foot fence enclosing our garden.  We
suggested lowering it on the approach to the corner and the officer agreed with this. 
The official plans were also forwarded to another officer in roads and transport who
also approved them. 
- We have been advised we are removing open space from the community of Braco. 
Across the road from our house is open space for miles.  We are at the very edge of
Braco, we have fields behind us and fields/walks across the road.  This is not a
communal area, it is our garden. Every house apart from 1 up until the centre of
Braco has either a 6 foot fence or a hedge greater than 6 foot.  We have opted for a
fence as it provides instant security. 
- Our plans have to benefit the community of Braco.  Surely an area of shrubbery
providing year round colour benefits the community, it looks like waste ground at
the moment. We planned to use evergreen shrubs where possible with a mixture of
flowering and non flowering shrubs. The area will be laid out with gravel to allow for
easier maintenance. 
- The new fence will replace the existing 6 foot fence but moved to our boundary and
initially we planned to remove part of the feature wall but we have decided to keep
it as a feature and reduce the height of the fence at this area accordingly. We will
use climbers to add colour to the fence eg wisteria, clematis, honeysuckle
- Our garden has to mirror that of no. 2 – each house in this street is different and
each garden is different, that’s what gives the street its appeal. Why should we be
made to copy our neighbours garden plans. What if he redesigns his garden, do we
need to change ours?
- Existing fence is of poor design and does not provide privacy nor does it help with
road noise reduction.  The new fence would be a double layer fence therefore
providing us with security for items within our garden, privacy and hopefully helping
reduce road noise. 
- People walk over this ground as it doesn’t look like part of our garden as it stands. 
Due to the design it is always going to look like this and cannot be incorporated into
our garden without removing the existing fence and moving it. 
- Our boundary fence at the rear of our garden has been pulled down and according
to a local woman this happens regularly by people trying to access a wooded area
435

Page 10

behind us.  There is now a new path which does not involve people walking over our
garden but the fence has recently been pulled down again. 
-  Dogs foul in this area and not all owners clear up after their dogs.  We have found
broken glass on the ground and regularly have to go out and pick up litter.  It is a
very difficult area to maintain as it is not enclosed in our garden so in the growing
season it looks untidy as the weeds are difficult to control as spores blow over from
the fields and land in this open area.   Our plans would make this area a nice area for
people walking by but also with a boundary fence/hedge make them aware that it is
our garden. 
-  We need to provide a secure area for our dog as at the moment we have temporary
barricades up using planks of wood and bins etc.  He has already escaped once but
luckily did not get onto the road.   Should we decide to rescue another dog in the
future a 6 foot fence enclosing the garden is generally one of the conditions for
adoption. 
- We have discussed the plans with our neighbours and all are keen for this proposal
to go ahead in respect of the shrubbery area on the corner and hopefully a reduction
in road noise for the neighbours on our side of the road when the new fence is in
position.  
- Street lighting carried out a site visit and confirmed that cabling ran round the
pavement not through our property at any point. 
- We are keen to have a site visit to discuss this if necessary and verify that our plans 
would benefit the community and us.  We requested a site visit to discuss our plans
but this was ignored.  We also applied for pre planning but were advised that it was
straight forward with no issues and to go ahead and apply for planning permission. 
Our money was refunded to us at that point as there were no issues. I submitted my
own plans/photos but these were not validated so we contacted an architect.  Our
architect contacted planning to enquire what information they wanted and was
advised on the phone that there would be no issues and should be straight forward
but as I had submitted my own plans/photos they would like official plans drawn up. 
As a keen gardener this property was purchased with a view to enhancing an already
established garden but feel now we are compromised on our future plans for the
garden.  We have already bought several plants/shrubs and I have been bringing
some shrubs on from seeds collected from my last house to plant here.  This garden
area cannot be planted up as a shrubbery area in its current state as it is open
ground and dogs will continue to wander over it and urinating on the plants
therefore killing them. People and children will continue to wander through the area
if it is not enclosed.  I bring a lot of plants on from seed/seedlings and these need
time to mature without being disturbed.  I have a deep passion for gardening and
people passing by our last house would often stop and admire our garden.  Our plans
can only benefit the wider community. 
436

Page 11

TAYplan Strategic Development Plan 2016 – 2036 Approved October 2017
Whilst there are no specific policies or strategies directly relevant to this proposal the
overall vision of the TAYplan should be noted.  The vision states “By 2036 the TAYplan area
will be sustainable, more attractive, competitive and vibrant without creating an
unacceptable burden on our planet. The quality of life will make it a place of first choice
where more people choose to live, work, study and visit, and where businesses choose to
invest and create jobs.”
In regards to the above statement it states that it’s not relevant to our situation yet this was
included as a reason for refusal.  What about our quality of life!  Surely we are as deserving
as every other person to an attractive secure garden where we can relax and enjoy life.  
We believe that our plans improve this area, not erode or negatively impact the surrounding
area and we are finding it hard to believe that planning feel we are negatively impacting the
village.  It seems strange that we see new houses being built all over Perthshire with 6 foot
fences yet we are not allowed to move an existing 6 foot fence to our boundary.  We
followed all the rules regarding this planning re contacting all the relevant departments
including speaking to roads before we even approached planning yet I see 6 foot fences
bordering main roads everywhere but we are not allowed. 
Many thanks for taking the time to review this. 
437

Page 12

438

Page 13

NORTH
439

Page 14

A822
440

Page 15

NORTH
FACING
EAST FACING
441

Page 16

442

Page 17

NORTH
443

Page 18

444

Page 19

Existing Garden Ground
445

Page 20

Fence Pulled Down
446

Page 21

447

Page 22

Open Area Across the Road
448

Page 23

Shrubbery area to look similar to this
449

Page 24

450

Page 25

451

Page 26

452

Page 27

453

Page 28

454

Page 29

455

Page 30

456

Page 31

457

Page 32

458

Page 33

Comments to the Development Quality Manager on a Planning Application
Planning
Application ref.
21/02017/FLL Comments
provided by
Lachlan MacLean
Project Officer – Transport Planning
Service/Section Transport Planning Contact
Details
TransportPlanning@pkc.gov.uk
Description of
Proposal
Erection of a fence
Address of site 1 Commander's Grove, Braco, Dunblane, FK15 9PL
Comments on the
proposal
The applicant is proposing to erect a fence at 1 Commander’s Grove.  The
fence is proposed to be sent back at 300 mm from the edge of the footway,
with a recess for the street name plate.
The fence will be in two different styles, with the 1.8 metre height fence
having vertical timbers and the 1.2 metre fence having horizontal timbers.
The position of the street lighting cable may need to be relocated for the
foundations of the fence and contact should be made with the Streetlighting
Partnership prior to works commencing, to confirm the location of their
plant.  
Insofar as the Roads matters are concerned, I have no objections to this
proposal.
Recommended
planning
condition(s)
Recommended
informative(s) for
applicant
The applicant is advised to contact the Street Lighting Partnership to obtain
the locations of plant.  Contact Perth & Kinross Council Street Lighting
Department for further details.  Contact Mark Gorrie at Perth & Kinross
Council Street Lighting Department for further details.
Date comments
returned 23 February 2022
459

Page 34

460

Page 35

4(iv)(b)
LRB-2022-29
LRB-2022-29
21/02017/FLL – Erection of a fence, 1 Commander’s Grove,
Braco, Dunblane
PLANNING DECISION NOTICE
REPORT OF HANDLING
REFERENCE DOCUMENTS (part included in
applicant’s submission, pages 439-443)
461

Page 36

462

Page 37

463

Page 38

464

Page 39

465

Page 40

466

Page 41

467

Page 42

468

Page 43

469

Page 44

470

Page 45

471

Page 46

472

Page 47

4(iv)(c)
LRB-2022-29
LRB-2022-29
21/02017/FLL – Erection of a fence, 1 Commander’s Grove,
Braco, Dunblane
REPRESENTATIONS
(included in applicant’s submission, page 459)
473

Page 48

474