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Perth and Kinross Council · 11 November 2024
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4(ii)(c) 
LRB-2024-38 
LRB-2024-38
24/00558/FLL – Installation of shipping container (in
retrospect, 2 Glenfarg Terrace, Perth, PH2 0AP 
REPRESENTATIONS

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Mrs Katie Johnston (Objects) 
Comment submitted date: Fri 10 May 2024 
I wish to object to the approval of this application due to the unsightly mass of
industrial steel shipping container located in the garden of a domestic house in full
view of the neighbours and of passers by. It is completely inappropriate within a
domestic setting and is contrary to Perth & Kinross Councils Placemaking policy as
stated in the Local Development plan. 
Contrary to Policy 1A- It cannot possibly be perceived as contributing positively to
the quality of the surrounding built and natural environment and the design, density
and siting of the shipping container does not respect the character and amenity of
the area. 
Contrary to Policy 1B - The proposal does not meet the following placemaking
criteria:
(c) The design and density should compliment its surroundings in terms of
appearance, height, scale, massing, materials, finishes and colours.

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Application Ref: 24/00558/FLL – Installation of shipping container (in retrospect, 2
Glenfarg Terrace, Perth, PH2 0AP – Miss N Topping 
Further Objection K Johnston  – Review of Shipping Container (2 Glenfarg terrace) 
23/09/2024 
I would like to further object to the appeal submitted by the occupant of 2 Glenfarg Terrace,
Perth. 
Having read the appeal, I still stand by my initial objection that this mass of a shipping
container whether covered or not should not be sited in a residential area and so close to
the boundary line. 
Consideration was not given to the neighbours prior to the siting of the 40-foot shipping
container which my property directly faces. The occupier states this was to be a temporary
measure it has been sitting in the garden for well over a year now and I understand costs
would be attached to purchasing this but that should have been considered prior to
purchase and siting of the container without planning permission. 
No other neighbours have a shipping container in their garden as a “garden shed” in this
residential area, the mass and size are not acceptable whether that provides extra security
for her tools or not. I feel any cladding would not support the “better look” of the container
as it may well enhance the mass and with adding a roof to me would almost represent a
“home” and I’m sure planning permission for a property on that land was refused twice prior
to this issue. 
In my view no additional measures can hide the fact that I am looking onto a 40 ft shipping
container, covered or not, no amount of flowers or troughs are going to minimise the
appearance and stature also with weather damage and environmental factors the nature of
deterioration could be significant through time. 
It does not reflect a nice environmental feel to the area, and I have been resident at my
property for over 10 years and appreciate the homeowner may be disappointed by the
continued objection but if the appeal was successful where do we draw the line on what is
acceptable on a residential property? 
I do hope that those who review the appeal can understand the frustration and
disappointment of having to live opposite such an “out of character “addition to our
neighbourhood. 
Kind Regards
K Johnston
Resident of Glengarry Road

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Response to “Further Objection from K Johnston”
Having spent time considering the points of the letter received 1/10/2024, I would like to
respond as follows:
The containers position is within the boundary line (and the 100cm stipulated) and I feel that
it is no different than having a fence, a garage or other garden structure at this point. The
previous owners of this property had been using this area as a dumping ground with a very
dilapidated (and dangerous) garage, as well as using it as a second driveway. It would be
beneficial to have this as another entrance/exit to the property for safety as exiting onto the
roundabout (which many people ignore and fly through) is incredibly dangerous. I will be
looking to get the curb lowered at some point in the future, and a gate added to allow my dog
full access to the gardens, but as I said, this will be reviewed once all other work has been
completed.
In regards to my neighbours comment about the temporary nature of the structure, I feel that
by definition anything without solid foundations is temporary as it can be moved at any point.
The duration of the placement of the container is a completely different point, and I hope that
the review board and my neighbours understand that there is no definite timeline for the
completion of this renovation project. This is due to a number of different factors, the main
one being that the initial condition of the house was unfit for habitation,a point that I
discussed with Mr Johnston when he introduced himself to me last year. I have attached
some of the photos showing the condition of the property when I moved in so the review
board can get a feel for the extent of the work that needed done.
The renovation of this old house has been trying as the previous owners had been unable to
keep up with general maintenance meaning that the whole building needed to be stripped
back to the bones and built up again. This has been a costly and time consuming endeavour
that has taken all of my energy which has unfortunately meant that I haven’t been able to
make any of my planned improvements to the gardens, an area that I know my many
neighbours are looking forward to me starting on!
With the extensive gardens on this property, I will require a number of different tools to allow
me to keep up with the maintenance needed for the diverse habitat surrounding the house.
As a Craft, Design and Technology teacher at a local school, I also require a home workshop
to allow me to keep up with my CPD, prepare for lessons and maintain my professional
standards. I had very supportive neighbours in my previous house who weren’t offended by
the noise these various tools made when working in my traditional wooden-shed type
workshop. Being in a more residential area now, I felt that using this container with the
additional sound-proofing that the internal insulation and external cladding will provide would
be more considerate to my neighbours.
It seems that the appearance of this structure is of the most concern to my neighbour, which
I completely understand. They have a beautiful garden and well kept access way which I can
only dream of at this stage in the project. I understand from my other neighbours that my
property was once a showcase garden and I too feel their upset that it has been left to get to
this current state. I would like to make sure that the review board, my neighbours and all
other passers-by know that while I am by no means a gardener, I will do my best to enhance

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the appearance of the neighbourhood by improving the state of my gardens when time and
nature allow.
With the number of different trees and bushes in the garden turning dormant for winter, I
understand that my neighbours will be able to see more of the container through the thinning
leaves which isn’t ideal. I have been offered the use of a “camo-net” to cover the container in
the hopes that it blends into the surroundings a little better, and although it is just a
temporary fix, it should be more appealing to look at until the work can be undertaken in the
garden.
I note my neighbours concern with the appearance of the proposed cladding and would like
to assure the review board that this would be well maintained to prevent unsightly
deterioration, and would serve as the base board to create a biodiverse “living wall” which
the previous rockface couldn’t support. With the flat roof of the container, there is also the
possibility of having this living wall extend over the top, meaning it would be interesting to
look at from all angles. This however, will take time for the plants to establish but I feel that
keeping the area as natural as possible (using greens and browns) will help the transition of
embedding this structure into the surrounding area.
I am aware that planning permission has been refused for creating additional dwellings on
the property and would like to assure the review board and my neighbours that I have no
plans to approach this again. I would like to concentrate instead on making the extensive
lands around the house into a peaceful sanctuary in which I can relax, grow fruit and
vegetables for my pantry, and support the local wildlife. The placement of this container is
solely for the storage of personal belongings during the final stages of the renovation of the
house, the housing of garden tools, and a small non-commercial workshop for personal use.
I do hope that the review board and my neighbours understand the trials I have faced over
the last year and a half: the rising costs of storage, fuel, tools and materials; the challenges
of relying on tradespeople to do the job you want, to the standard needed; and conducting
this renovation while having a demanding full-time job. But more importantly that they
appreciate the positive impact my soon-to-be well kept home, garden and outbuildings will
have on the local area when complete, especially in such a prime position within the
neighbourhood.
Thank you for taking the time to review my application and the above comments which I
hope will alleviate the concerns of my neighbours.
Please don’t hesitate to contact me to discuss any points within my application, supporting
documentation or this letter in more detail.
Yours faithfully,
Nicola
Enc. Please see supporting photos and comments below.

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I found old tiles under 2 layers of carpet in
the sunroom, and an infestation of ants in
the mouldy sub-floor.
The whole area needed to be ripped out,
the infestation dealt with, the foundations of
the room raised, and a new subfloor put in
before my flooring could go down.
The downstairs toilet had mould
everywhere, incorrectly fitted plumbing and
another rotten sub-floor.
Again, the foundations of this previous
extension needed to be redressed, raised
and the plumbing completely replaced.

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The gas boiler was not fit for use and had to
be safely removed. I then discovered that
the gas pipes throughout the house were
corroded, and that the electrical wiring was
outdated and extremely unsafe.
All water pipes, gas pipes and electric
cables had to be removed and the whole
building re-wired and plumbed.
The stairs to the second floor were in bad
shape with evidence of wood worm.
After consultation confirming that the
woodworm had been eradicated, the whole
structure needed additional support and the
treads fixed or replaced.
It looked like a lot of money had been spent
on creating an accessible toilet at one point.
The previous owner hadn’t been able to
maintain it, and as such needed to be
ripped out. When the flooring was taken up,
I found more mould where the drain had
been incorrectly fitted, and again the
foundations needed raised and the subfloor
replaced.

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The kitchen looked new at first glance,
however the condition and placement of the
electrics meant that the whole kitchen
needed to be removed to allow the
electrician access.
When removed, I discovered black mould
where pipes had corroded, and large gaps
underneath the windows.
Upon further inspection, all windows
needed to be replaced after work was
carried out to shore up and secure the
frames.
The garage and space beside it (where the
container now stands) was an unsightly
mess of ancient appliances, scrap wood
and other debris.
The garage itself was not secure in the fact
it had no foundations and was likely to blow
over in a storm. The roof was completely
corroded and crumpled before I could take
it off properly.
The pergola (to the right of the picture)
needed the roof completely replaced,
beams supported and many planks
replaced (not before I fell through a
couple!!).

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