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Appendix A - Consultation summary on the National Discussion

Perth and Kinross Council · 15 May 2023
Back to Executive Sub-Committee of the Learning and Families Committee — 15 May 2023 and its agenda

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National Conversation
PKC Key themes Oct-Nov 22
PARENT AND FAMILY
LEARNING TEAM
CENTRAL TEAM STAFFDHT/PTS
FEEDBACK FROM:Skills for Life Learning and Work-
development of thinking skills - preparing
young people for work and further study.
Problem solving, resilience and reflective
of society.
Digital - More flexibility-not all children
learn best in a classroom – e-sgoil to be
expanded.
Digital independence, creative thinkers
Training Training for all staff in behaviour
management and ASN support strategies. 
Conditions Greater freedom and
flexibility to bring about changes in a
short space of time.
Communication. Increased staffing across
the board.
A 4-day week? 
Raise value of education nationally.
Sustaining ‘people’ resources. 
Partnerships Working in a co-ordinated
way with parent/families and partner
agencies.
Wellbeing
Resilience, adaptability, perseverance
Communication, emotional literacy,
collaboration, global awareness.
Focus on mental health wellbeing,
Children who are confident in their faith 
Early Years  More active/play style
learning with improved responsive
planning.
Digital skills, equity of access (1-1
devices), internet safety/social media, 
infrastructure with clear benefits of
digital skills understood by all.
Essential staff training available.
Understanding of play pedagogy – 
for all staff, P1 curriculum to meet
needs.
Meta-skills/skills for the future-
creativity, strong numeracy/literacy
skills (including financial education)
Mental Health and Well Being -
resilience, nurture, mental health
support.
Environmental awareness –
sustainable living.
Broad and evolving curriculum
Ring fenced time for professional
learning, teacher confidence to apply
play pedagogy, ECPs in early years,
specialist speech and language.
An education that builds
resilience, self-worth, confidence.
Life skills – larger emphasis on
vocational/practical industries.
Play and outdoor learning.
School universal and targeted offer
includes parenting and family
learning throughout 3-18 and beyond
school hours.
Better alternative provision for
children with ASN.
Children and young people are
valued and listened to. 
Pupil Voice - Childs voice is prioritised
and actioned.
Physical Environment -Review and
evaluate school building - being fit for
purpose. 
Community focus – all children and
young people are a part of it.
Partnerships working - Provision of
education – who else can be involved.
Digital - Greater use of online offers. 
Q1. What kind of education
will be needed by children
and young people in
Scotland in the future and
how do we make that a
reality?
HEADTEACHERS

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Transitions - Enhanced support for
young people and families during
transition from secondary to
positive destinations.  
Choice and flexibility- Responding
to HWB census in allowing children
greater choice in their learning e.g.
virtual classes where subject
choices are not available.
HWB - Sense of belonging and
feeling understood.
Universal approaches to needs -
Normalising needs – planning/
L & T to meet overall needs.
Early intervention.
Providing opportunities for learning
and applying skills (including digital).
Clear/ evolving skills development
Awareness/ understanding of mental
health /Trauma informed.
Listening to learners and supporting
choices they make.
Build community links.
Using evidence-based programmes
and early intervention as this will
save funding in the long run.
Most of the services that offer this
are non-statutory so at risk of being
under regular budget savings.
Change temporary funding to
permanent funding.
National Conversation
PKC Key themes Oct-Nov 22
Q2. How do we ensure
that children and young
people in Scotland feel
supported in their learning
in the future?
Training and staffing
Ensure universal supports are well
embedded in all classrooms.
Need to skill staff up so that targeted
support can also be in place even
while waiting for diagnoses.
Find solutions to staffing issues.
Allow higher tariff interventions to get
off the ground in a timely fashion.
A balance of support and pupil
ownership of their own learning.
Robust support for ASL, continue
counselling/CLW.
Joint services for families from birth.
Pedagogy
Involve them in their learning
Enough time that children can feel
cared for/supported.
Value their voice, reflect it back to
them.
Provide a scaffold to work from.
Give them choices of how to learn.

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Curriculum
literacy, numeracy, HWB, 4 capacities
and  SLLW.
High quality early interactions.
Focus on literacy/numeracy, skills for
learning, life and work.
4 capacities.
‘4 capacities’ to create ‘good people’. 
Relationships
Values based and child centred
approaches.
Relationships/learning together –
introductions/connections.
People – financing people.
People-PSA, PSTs, expressive arts etc.
All children supported and challenged
to be the best they can be to be able
to function as an individual member
of society.
Support networks to ensure that the
child is at the centre.
High expectations by schools and
society. 
Literacy, Numeracy, HWB need to
stay.
Core skills.
Routines in school and at home.
Self-Regulation.
I.T.
Bring back specialists!
Extra-curricular clubs.
Attainment.
Reducing the gap.
Equity.
Supporting families early will save
money in the long run.
Families will have better
relationships and outcomes for
both parents and children, who are
our future parents.
National Conversation
PKC Key themes Oct-Nov 22
Staffing - Staffing ratios in ELC.
Collaborative Working.
Building capacity at community
level.
Q3. What is one thing that
needs to stay and why?

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Appropriate mental health support.
Early intervention.
Digital literacy for all.
Shorter waiting times.
Quicker access to support/ more
joined up thinking and referral
system.
Better recruitment and retention of
support staff - more secure contracts.
PSAs need to be retained and be used
effectively to support the children.
Staffing- more staff - ECPs, PSA.
Equity in distribution of IT across
schools particularly for pupils with
ASN.
Appropriate infrastructure for IT -
decent Wi-Fi. Having resources to
meet expectations.
Higher expectations in teacher
training.
More input from PSTs in rural schools.
Consistency of Outreach staff - regular
visits.
More involvement from Community
Link Workers.
Need for more nurseries/schools as
most of Scottish schools are at
capacity, with little space for smaller
group work or class sizes.
Every community is expanding which
means not enough places for
children in their local school.
National Conversation
PKC Key themes Oct-Nov 22
Early Years  - Establishing a
kindergarten stage with meaningful
consultation and planning to ensure it
is delivered in line with the core values
of a true research and theory informed
kindergarten stage.
Parents involved in children’s
attendance in ELC setting e.g.
compulsory family learning for families
accessing funded SS2 to ensure
positive family attachments to
compliment ELC.
Wellbeing.
Skills development framework.
Preparation for life, learning and
work-
Positive and equal post destination
opportunities, skills expected from
employers.
Curriculum pathways for all.
Culture – valuing all.
Q4. What are the most
important priorities for a
future Scottish education
system?
Equity -
close the gap – ensure equity.
Fit for purpose, not just education for
education sake.
Transitions – primary to secondary.

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Renewed value/status.
Professional pride recognition
Self efficacy 
Curriculum and Pedagogy
Flexible approaches to curriculum.
Transferable skills that will survive change.
A return to focus on the Four Capacities.
An assessment and qualifications suite that properly equips our young people.
High quality teacher training – needs refreshed; more school based.
Review current model of RCCT – what impact have we seen?
Successful learners – the focus on exam results needs to change. Transferable skills portfolio.
Creative, innovative teachers. 
Partnerships
Effective parental engagement where parents play an active role.
Teach real skills e.g., ‘parenting’ before they become parents – program at secondary school.
Utilise what is available in local area, be able to talk about learning.
Happy “folk” with wellbeing and family coming together.
Equity 
Investing in an expanded, skilled workforce (including support staff and teaching staff)
A greater focus on Relationships.
More people! PEF has helped to fund essential support staff.
Move away from current measures of poverty  - they are currently not reflective of the need
Individualised pathways.
National Conversation
PKC Key themes Oct-Nov 22
Skills - Refresh in skills
required for future and
employment alongside equal
opportunities.
Q5. Overall, what is your
vision for the future of
education in Scotland?

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Strategy
Clarity
Investment 
Decluttering of priorities across
Scotland, LA and individual schools.
Funding, time, training.
Longer term measurement of impact.
For example, some interventions will
have an impact that is cumulative and
take longer to close any gap eg
cultural.
Review of presumption of
mainstreaming, need to look at
inclusion and impact on schools and
children’s learning.
Working more collaboratively across
schools and local authorities.
Clarity of vision.
We need to be clear about purpose of
school, if everything is a priority then
nothing is.
Be very focused on what will make a
difference to children.
A highly skilled workforce.
Local flexibility/empowerment.
Initial Teacher Education.
Effective leadership at all levels and
masters level learning for all staff,
intensive training e.g. play.
IT.
Supporting the most vulnerable.
Working with our communities.
National Conversation
PKC Key themes Oct-Nov 22
Further development and training: 
- to fully understand who our
children and young people are.
Understanding our partners and
carers and empathise with their
circumstances.
Teacher training better aligned with
aims, visions and values expected in
education.
Rights and Responsibilities Shared
understanding of rights and
responsibilities across society. 
Q6. How can we make
that future vision for
education a reality in
Scotland?
HOW CAN CHILDREN AND YOUNG
PEOPLE BE CARED FOR AND
SUPPORTED IN THE FUTURE? (I.E.,
PHYSICAL AND MENTAL
WELLBEING)
Parents having a better
understanding of how to nurture
their children and the changes
through the life span of their child
(different developmental needs and
changes, teen brain development).
School staff having a better
understanding of how to support
children, YP and parents, and
communicate effectively with them.
Education for physical and mental
health should be mainstream not
just for those experiencing
difficulties.

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Effective leadership.
Initial Teacher Training - increase
the standard please.
Masters level learning for
education staff.
The effective use of IT and the
upskilling of staff and children.
A highly skilled workforce
Appropriate support at the
correct time.
More trained support staff in
schools.
More funding.
Smaller class sizes.
Support for part time timetables.
Support and challenge for
parents.
IT for all (equity across the
authority).
National Conversation
PKC Key themesOct-Nov 22
Partnerships
Education should involve
whole families as school
cannot do it all!
Clearer understanding of the
shared responsibility. Takes a
village!
Funding- review in individual
schools adequate funding and
resources. 
Curriculum and Pedagogy 
Streamline the curriculum,
key focus on
literacy/numeracy/HWB.
Review the professional
learning structure in schools.
Develop distributed
leadership opportunities,
collaboration, discussion and
ACTION! 
Q7. What are the most
important steps we need to
take to achieve the future
vision for education in
Scotland?  Q8. How can we ensure that
everyone involved in
education in Scotland has a
say in future decisions and
actions?
HEADTEACHERS
Communication 
Clearer and more effective.
Communication of the role of education
Consultation.
Properly funded and sustained.
RCCT review.
RCCT time for teaching staff and
collaboration within schools.
Consultation and balanced
representation across all communities.
Need to get parents on board – help
them to understand and to be brave
enough to ‘bin’ exams. 
Funding. 
Curriculum review.
Policy changes – RCCT, starting school
consultations.
Time management 
Allocate Time.
Stop, take time to review. 
Trust 
Empowerment.
Treat education staff as professionals,
there is so much scrutiny.
Listen to those who are working in
schools.
Being bold and brave.
Supporting the most vulnerable.
Working with our communities.
Wider model of leadership within school.
Engagement with educational research - and
sharing this with parents and the wider
community.
A public consultation that is listened to,
Feedback to stakeholders.
This should include everyone involved in
the education system.