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Mr Graham Wylie: Variation of Condition Numbers 3, 4, 5 and 6 and Removal of Conditions 7 and 8 Relative to Planning Permission 20/01150/Pp (Erection of Dwellinghouse). Access Arrangements: Rhu Lodge, Ferry Road, Rhu, Helensburgh (Ref: 21/02709/Pp)

Argyll and Bute Council · 22 March 2023
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Argyll and Bute Council 
Development and Economic Growth   
Delegated or Committee Planning Application Report and Report of Handling as
required by Schedule 2 of the Town and Country Planning (Development Management
Procedure) (Scotland) Regulations 2013 relative to applications for Planning
Permission or Planning Permission in Principle 
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Reference No: 21/02709/PP 
Planning Hierarchy: Local Development 
Applicant: Mr Graham Wylie 
Proposal: Variation of condition numbers 3, 4, 5 and 6 and removal of conditions 7 and 8 
relative to planning permission 20/01150/PP (Erection of dwellinghouse). Access 
arrangements 
Site Address: Rhu Lodge, Ferry Road, Rhu, Helensburgh, Argyll and Bute, G84 8NF 
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SUPPLEMENTARY REPORT NO. 5 
1. INTRODUCTION   
The attention of Members is drawn to the main Report of Handling dated 8th November 2022
and to supplementary reports; No.1 dated 22nd November 2022, No. 2 dated 10th January
2023, No. 3 dated 16th January 2023 and No. 4 dated 8th February 2023 that are currently
before them for consideration in respect of the above application. 
Committee Members postponed the determination of the application in order for the roads
department to respond to the submission of further drawings from the applicants which were
received on the 6th of February 2023. 
Below is a list of all revised and additional drawings that have been provided along with a
commentary (in conjunction with the roads area manager) in response to these drawings. 
19 / 20 / R2 A - Proposed passing place improvements Rev A; This drawing has not been
altered therefore, the previous comments remain. 
19 / 20 / R4 D - Proposed traffic calming improvements Rev D; This drawing has been
altered to include an additional speed hump to the East of the driveway access, bringing the
total of proposed speed humps up to three. In terms of our previous comments on the earlier
drawing, these still stand. The presence of such features does not permit us to determine the
operational speed of the road to less than 20mph. This drawing also notes that the new
passing place is to be 5500mm wide, please see the comment below in regards to the revised
driveway plan in relation to this. 
19 / 20 / R5 D - Combined traffic calming measures Rev D; Comment same as above.

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19 / 20 / R7 D - Ferry Road proposed improvements Rev D; This drawing has been altered
to include an additional speed hump to the East of the driveway access as well as a note in
regards to the proposed new road construction being type C. Please see comment below in
regards to the re-alignment, new road construction and passing place details required. 
19 / 20 / R9 D - Ferry Road extent of re-surfacing Rev D; This drawing has been altered to
include an additional speed hump to the East of the driveway access as well as a note in
regards to the proposed new road construction being type C. In regards to the note that
indicates new road construction is to be type C - this has not been requested by the roads
department, we would require further information in terms of the proposed extents and details
to support this. Lastly in regards to the comments provided on the precious revision – these
comments have not been addressed and still stand. These comments are; This drawing shows
the extent of the proposed re-surfacing works, the proposed grass verge to sections and
indicates the proposed and existing passing places. As below if the applicant wishes to install
a grass verge then full details of the proposed re-alignment are required (this drawings does
not adequately show this as we require details showing the full extent of re-alignment,
dimensions along the full length, method of illumination for the re-alignment etc.). Furthermore,
the existing and proposed 100m intervisible passing places between the driveway access and
the public road are not adequately detailed. This drawing also fails to detail the second passing
place that is required between the driveway access and the main road – the passing place
indicated at the junction of the public road does not meet standard detail SD 08/003 A as it is
a junction . All passing places must be no more than 100m apart and intervisible for all road
users. All passing places must be constructed in accordance with the minimum requirements
as set out in standard detail SD 08/003 A. This drawing also notes the new passing place is
to be 5500mm wide - please see the comment below in regards to the revised driveway plan
in relation to this.
19 / 20 / R10 B - Driveway plan Rev B; This drawing has been altered to address our previous
comments in regards to the 2.4m visibility set back and the location of the water prevention
measures. These alterations successfully address these comments and I can confirm the
visibility splays and method of preventing water from flowing onto the carriageway are
acceptable. However, this drawing does not address other comments from the earlier revision.
These outstanding comments are; this drawing fails to detail the full extent of the proposed
road re-alignment required to install the grass verge along the boundary wall. If the applicant
wishes to install a grass verge then details of the full roads re-alignment must be included.
These details should include illumination of the carriageway (i.e. bollards). Lastly this revised
drawing now includes a 3.5m dimension across the carriageway East of the application site.
As this location is bounded by a high stone wall to the North this dimension would not be
acceptable or in accordance with roads guidance or original condition; this dimension would
need to be a minimum of 3.7m where bounded by a wall.
22034_006 B - ECS drawing Rev B; This drawing has been updated to show the correct
visibility splay set back. In addition to this the drawing has also been altered to show a 3.5m
dimension to the carriageway to the East of the application site in lieu of the 4m dimension
which was previously noted – as above; as this location is bounded by a high stone wall to the
North this dimension would not be acceptable or in accordance with roads guidance or original
condition; this dimension would need to be a minimum of 3.7m where bounded by a wall.
Furthermore, the passing place detail as shown has been updated to reflect SD 08/003 A. As

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per our comments on the previous revision; The detail showing the 100m intervisible passing
place is incorrect as the suggested passing place at the access to the Rosslea is not in line
with standard detail SD 08/003 A – this suggested passing place is also not considered to be
intervisible for all road users as those exiting the Rosslea will not be able to see traffic from
the right. This drawing also indicates localised widening of 7m at the access to the adjacent
property however, this is not adequately detailed as no lengths of the widening are stipulated.
Lastly this drawing fails to demonstrate the requirement for 100m intervisible passing places
between the driveway access and the public road.
In addition to the above drawings two additional drawings have been provided. These are;
19/20/R11 – Passing Place (A814 Junction); This drawing indicates a 4.5m wide x 10m long
box to indicate an existing ‘passing place’ at the A814 junction. The roads officer has
commented on this drawing and has noted that this is a junction with the public road and is
not a passing place. All passing places should be detailed as per standard detail SD 08/003
A and be intervisible. The minimum width of a passing place is 5.5m and not the 4.5m as
detailed. 
19/20/R12 – Passing Place (Hotel Split); This drawing indicates a 5.5m wide x 10m long box
to indicate an existing ‘passing place’ at the junction of the hotel access. The roads officer has
commented on this drawing and has noted that this is an informal junction with the hotel access
and is not a passing place. All passing places should be detailed as per the standard detail
SD 08/003 A and be intervisible. The 5.5m dimension as detailed should not protrude into the
junction of the hotel access. This passing place should not restrict the junction of the hotel.
Furthermore, this drawing details the existing road width to the West of the hotel access as
2.75m – this is not in line with the required minimum width of 3.5m where not restricted by
walls.
In addition to the revised set of drawings the applicants have proposed three new roads
conditions to substitute the current roads conditions. In terms of the suggested substitute
conditions these would not be acceptable as the drawings submitted and referred to within
these conditions are not in line with roads guidance for the reasons detailed above. Roads
have also commented; in the interest of road safety, Roads will not accept less than the
requirements previously conditioned within the report of handling before Members. This report
of handling also details within appendix A the reasons why the roads conditions should remain
unchanged and why certain conditions should be varied. 
Further to this; subsequent to the last continuation please note that NPF 4 has been adopted.
Therefore, it is necessary to apply the relevant policies of NPF 4 to the development proposed.
National Planning Framework 4 (NPF4) is the national spatial strategy for Scotland. It sets out
spatial principles, regional priorities, national developments and national planning policy. It
replaces NPF3 and Scottish Planning Policy. There are a range of polices within NPF4 that
cover all developments, however, please note that the principle of development has been
established under the previous consent (ref: 20/01150/PP). As such this application solely
relates to; the variation / omission of roads conditions relative to planning permission
20/01150/PP and as such we have only addressed the polices of NPF 4 relating to this aspect.
In this instance the relevant key policy would be policy 13(G); Sustainable Transport which
notes; where it has been demonstrated that existing infrastructure does not have the capacity

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to accommodate a development without adverse impacts on safety or unacceptable impacts
on operational performance, the cost of the mitigation measures required to ensure the
continued safe and effective operation of the network should be met by the developer. This
policy is strongly aligned with current LDP polices LDP 11 and SG LDP TRAN 4. Based on
this NPF 4 supports the current policy assessment and as such the current recommendation
stands. 
2. RECOMMENDATION   
The additional revised drawings submitted by the applicant have been considered and
commented on but do not alter the recommendation contained in the main Report of
Handling dated 8th November 2022; namely, that the application be granted subject to the
conditions, reasons and informative notes contained therein. 
Author of Report: Emma Jane     Date: 14th March 2023 
Reviewing Officer: Howard Young     Date: 14th March 2023 
Fergus Murray  
Head of Development and Economic Growth