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Argyll and Bute Council · 19 April 2023
Back to Planning, Protective Services and Licensing Committee — 19 April 2023 and its agenda

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MINUTES of MEETING of PLANNING, PROTECTIVE SERVICES AND LICENSING COMMITTEE
held BY MICROSOFT TEAMS on WEDNESDAY, 19 APRIL 2023 
Present: Councillor Kieron Green (Chair) 
Councillor John Armour
Councillor Jan Brown
Councillor Graham Hardie
Councillor Fiona Howard 
Councillor Willie Hume
Councillor Andrew Kain
Councillor Liz McCabe
Councillor Peter Wallace 
Attending: Shona Barton, Governance Manager
Susan Mair, Legal Services Manager
Nigel Judson, Applicant
Mrs Judson, Applicant’s wife
Sergeant Ben Rudsen, Police Scotland 
1. APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE 
Apologies for absence were received from Councillors Audrey Forrest, Amanda Hampsey,
Daniel Hampsey, Mark Irvine, Paul Kennedy and Luna Martin. 
2. DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST 
There were no declarations of interest. 
The Committee resolved in terms of Section 50(A)(4) of the Local Government (Scotland)
Act 1973 to exclude the press and public for the following item of business on the grounds
that it was likely to involve the disclosure of exempt information as defined in Paragraph 3
of Part 1 of Schedule 7A to the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973. 
3. CIVIC GOVERNMENT (SCOTLAND) ACT 1982: APPLICATION FOR GRANT OF
A STREET TRADER LICENCE (N JUDSON, SALEN, AROS, ISLE OF MULL) 
The Chair welcomed everyone to the meeting.  In line with recent legislation for Civic
Government Hearings, the parties (and any representatives) were given the options for
participating in the meeting today.  The options available were by video call, by audio call
or by written submission.  For this hearing the Applicant requested that he be permitted to
attend the meeting from the Council Chamber.  This was agreed to and he was joined by
Officers to facilitate his attendance to address the Committee by video call. 
Police Scotland opted to proceed by way of audio call and Sergeant Ben Rusden joined
the meeting by telephone. 
At the Civic Hearing held on 22 March 2023 it was agreed to continue consideration of this
Application to the next meeting in April 2023 and to request the Applicant submit a report
from his health care provider to the Legal Team for consideration at this meeting. 
It was noted that only those Members who participated in the hearing on 22 March 2023
could participate in the continuation of the hearing today.  On that basis, Councillor Willie
Hume left the meeting at this point.

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The Chair invited the Applicant to speak to the report provided by his health care provider. 
The Chair then invited Police Scotland to comment. 
As it was established that there were no questions from Members’, the Chair invited the
Applicant and Police Scotland to sum up and they both confirmed that they had received a
fair hearing. 
The Chair then invited Members to continue to debate the application and consider the
report received from the Applicant’s health care provider. 
Motion 
To agree not to grant a Street Trader’s Licence to Mr Judson on the grounds that he was
not a fit and proper person to be the holder of the Licence. 
Moved by Councillor Peter Wallace, seconded by Councillor Liz McCabe. 
Amendment 
To agree to grant a Street Trader’s Licence to Mr Judson subject to the following
conditions: 
1. The licence will be granted for an initial period of 6 months and if there are no issues
during that time the licence will continue for the remaining time up to 3 years; 
2. That a progress report be brought back to PPSL Committee in October 2023 to advise
on how the licence has run; 
3. That Mr Judson submit an update report from his health care provider for consideration
by the PPSL Committee at the meeting in October 2023; and 
4. With the agreement of Mr Judson, that the Council’s Legal Services Manager write to
Mr Judson’s health care provider to advise of the outcome of this hearing and the
Committee’s wish that Mr Judson continue to receive support from the Mental Health
Team. 
Moved by Councillor Graham Hardie, seconded by Councillor Fiona Howard. 
A vote was taken by calling the role. 
Motion   Amendment   No Vote 
Councillor L McCabe Councillor J Armour  Councillor A Kain
Councillor P Wallace Councillor J Brown  
Councillor K Green
Councillor G Hardie
Councillor F Howard 
The Amendment was carried by 5 votes, with 2 votes for the Motion and 1 no vote, and
the Committee resolved accordingly.

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DECISION 
The Committee agreed to grant a Street Trader’s Licence to Mr Judson subject to the
following conditions: 
1. The licence will be granted for an initial period of 6 months and if there are no issues
during that time the licence will continue for the remaining time up to 3 years; 
2. That a progress report be brought back to PPSL Committee in October 2023 to advise
on how the licence has run; 
3. That Mr Judson submit an update report from his Health Care Provider for
consideration by the PPSL Committee at this meeting in October 2023; and 
4. With the agreement of Mr Judson, that the Council’s Legal Services Manager write to
Mr Judson’s Health Care Provider to advise of the outcome of this hearing and the
Committee’s wish that Mr Judson continue to receive support from the Mental Health
Team. 
(Reference: Report by Head of Legal and Regulatory Support, submitted)