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Minute of meeting of 18 March 2024

Perth and Kinross Council · 18 September 2024
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PERTH AND KINROSS COUNCIL
FINANCE AND RESOURCES COMMITTEE
EMPLOYEES JOINT CONSULTATIVE COMMITTEE 
Minute of hybrid meeting of the Employees Joint Consultative Committee held in
Room 410, 2 High Street, Perth on Monday 18 March 2024 at 2.00pm. 
Present: Representing Perth and Kinross Council: 
Councillors B Leishman, S McCole and J Rebbeck. 
Present: Representing Trade Unions: 
S Hope (UNISON)
V Leonard (GMB)
C Weston (EIS) 
In Attendance:  L Hamilton, P Johnstone, L McGeorge, C Judge, N Taylor,
F Thomson, and D Williams (all Strategy, People and Resources);
F MacKay (Economy, Place and Learning). 
Apologies:   Councillor C Reid, J Kettles, S Robertson and S Topen-Cooper, 
S Hope in the Chair. 
1. WELCOME AND APOLOGIES 
S Hope welcomed all present to the meeting and apologies were noted
above. 
2. DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST 
There were no declarations of interest made in terms of the Councillors’ Code
of Conduct. 
3. MINUTE OF MEETING OF THE EMPLOYEES JOINT CONSULTATIVE
COMMITTEE OF 19 JUNE 2023 FOR APPROVAL 
The minute of meeting of the Employees Joint Consultative Committee of
25 September 2023 was submitted and approved as a correct record. 
4. MATTERS ARISING 
There were no matters arising. 
5. HEALTH AND SAFETY PERFORMANCE REPORT QUARTER 3 – 2023/24 
There was a report submitted (G/24/36) informing and advising the
Employees Joint Consultative Committee in monitoring health and safety

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compliance and performance across Perth and Kinross Council and providing
an overview of health and safety activities undertaken. 
Resolved:
The contents of Report G/24/36, be noted. 
6. FIRE SAFETY QUARTERLY REPORT – QUARTER 3 – 2023/24 
There was a report submitted by Regulatory Services Manager (G/24/37),
approved by Strategic Lead, Strategic Planning, People and Performance
informing the Employees Joint Consultative Committee in monitoring fire
safety performance across Perth and Kinross Council and providing an
overview of fire safety activities undertaken. 
In introducing the report, L Hamilton advised that reviews of priorities of fire
risk assessments were currently taking place. 
Councillor McCole advised that the Action Plans were not being kept fully
updated, and requested that the importance of this be reinforced. 
Resolved:
The contents of Report G/24/37, be noted. 
7. STAFF REPORTING: INCIDENTS OF VIOLENCE AND AGGRESSION AND
INCIDENTS OF DISTRESSED/CHALLENGING BEHAVIOUR IN
EDUCATION SETTINGS, TERM 2 – 2023/24   
There was submitted a report (G/24/38) by the Strategic Lead – Education
and Learning, informing Employees Joint Consultative Committee of the
Education Service’s performance in managing and reducing incidents of
violence and aggression or distressed and challenging behaviour that has
impacted staff in the workplace. It provides a summary of the information
gathered in Term 2 of academic year 2023/2024 in relation to incidents in
schools and other educational settings which result in an emotional or
physical impact on a member of staff. It also provides information on the
activity of the established Working Group to prevent and reduce the number of
incidents. 
In presenting the report, F MacKay, Education and Learning, advised that
there had been a reduction in incidents of violence and aggression in primary
schools in Perth and Kinross, adding that this had been a real area of focus.
F MacKay also advised that less staff had been involved in repeat incidents,
and that a revised framework for intervention had been introduced. F Mackay
further advised that a Power BI dashboard had been launched for Quality
Improvement Officer’s (QIO’s) to be able to view the appropriate data, and it
was hoped that this would be extended to Headteachers, and also advised
that the working group had looked at schools with a high number of incidents
over Terms One and Two.

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C Weston commented that, in terms of year to year comparison, the number
of incidents of violence and aggression was still rising. C Weston added that
she felt it was important for posters in schools to emphasise that inappropriate
behaviours were not acceptable, adding that she also felt it helpful that the
Council provided reassurance to Trade Union members. 
In response to a question from Councillor Rebbeck regarding the working
group, S Hope advised that he felt the work being undertaken was good but
emphasized the importance of now getting this into practice. S Hope added
that he did feel there was an element of under-reporting of incidents and,
having undertaken school visits, felt that some inappropriate behaviour had
become normalized. In response to a further query from Councillor McCole
regarding under-reporting, F MacKay confirmed that one of the purposes of
the working group was to resolve this issue. 
Resolved:
The contents of Report G/24/38, be noted. 
8. FLEXIBLE WORKING FRAMEWORK UPDATE 
There was submitted a report (G/24/39) by the Corporate HR Manager
providing an update on activity to introduce the Flexible Working Framework
following approval by the Finance and Resources Committee in January
2024. 
In introducing the report, F Thomson advised that a disability staff network
meeting had taken place the previous week, and some practical matters had
been raised, such as arrangements and training for Evac-Chairs in Council
buildings. 
In response to a query from C Weston, F Thomson confirmed that this policy
would still apply to teaching staff applying for reduced hours. 
F Thomson advised that more communications would be published in the
coming week, including links to guidance on requests for reduced hours. 
Resolved:
The contents of Report G/24/38, be noted. 
9. HEALTH AND WELLBEING UPDATE 
There was a report submitted by Corporate HR Manager (G/24/40) providing
(i) an update on Health and Wellbeing data; and (ii) providing an update on
current Health and Wellbeing activities. 
Resolved:
The contents of Report G/24/40, be noted.

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10. EMPLOYEE SURVEY UPDATE 
There was a report submitted by Corporate HR Manager (G/24/41) providing
an update on the activity that has been taking place and plans for the issue of
the employee survey. 
C Judge advised that the annual employee survey had been stopped in 2018,
with the Council switching to pulse surveys in 2020. C Judge advised that the
decision to bring back the annual survey had been taken with the Chief
Executive, adding that work was being undertaken with the Senior Leadership
Team in this regard. C Judge added that consultation had been taken with the
NHS regarding their staff survey. 
C Judge advised that broad themes were outlined in the report, but advised
that more themes would be added in the survey. C Judge advised that results
would be published at a team level, and that results and next steps would be
outlined at the next meeting of this Committee. 
S Hope added that he felt the workshops which had taken place were really
beneficial, and added the importance of promoting the survey. 
Resolved:
The contents of Report G/24/41, be noted. 
11. PERFORMANCE DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION UPDATE 
There was a report submitted by Corporate HR Manager (G/24/42) providing
an update on implementation of the Performance and Development
Discussion (PDD) process and plans for future work. 
C Judge advised that the framework had been launched in early January
2024, and since then over 100 employees had completed it, with the feedback
being positive. C Judge further advised that continued support would be
available to managers. 
Resolved:
The contents of Report G/24/42, be noted. 
12. PEOPLE AND CULTURE STRATEGY 
P Johnstone, Corporate HR Manager, delivered a verbal update on the
People and Culture Strategy. 
P Johnstone advised that the new name for the consolidated Human
Resources (HR) and Organisational Development (OD) is ‘People and
Culture’, and that an operating model was presently being looked at. 
P Johnstone advised that it was planned for a People and Culture strategy to
be submitted to the Finance and Resources Committee on 12 June, and that
Trade Unions would be invited to meetings individually.

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P Johnstone further advised that there would be a shift in HR and OD
provision across the Council, and that a mapping exercise was taking place in
this regard. 
13. ANY OTHER COMPETENT BUSINESS 
The was no other competent business. 
14. DATE OF NEXT MEETING 
17 June 2024.