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Perth and Kinross Council
Finance and Resources Committee
Employees Joint Consultative Committee
Minute of hybrid meeting of the Employees Joint Consultative Committee held
Meeting Room 410, 2 High Street, Perth on Wednesday 3 December 2025 at
1.30pm.
Present: Representing Perth and Kinross Council:
Councillors K Allan, S McCole and M Frampton.
Present: Representing Trade Unions:
C Weston (EIS)
V Leonard (GMB)
S Hope (UNISON)
M Mackie (SSTA)
In Attendance:  L Hamilton, P Johnstone, E Bayne, L McGeorge, F Mackay,
D Black, S Stephen, B Kinnear, S Kinnear, K Robertson, J McCole,
A McConnachie.
Apologies: Councillor J Rebbeck with Councillor M Frampton substituting,
D MacLuskey, N Ferry, S Robertson and S Topen-Cooper
S Hope in the Chair.
1. Welcome and Apologies
S Hope welcomed all present to the meeting and apologies were noted as
above.
2. Declarations of Interest
There were no declarations of interest made in terms of the Councillors’ Code
of Conduct.
3. Minute of Meeting of Employees Joint Consultative Committee of
17 September 2025
The minute of meeting of the Employees Joint Consultative Committee of
17 September 2025 was submitted and approved as a correct record.
4. Matters Arising
(i) Medication Errors
B Kinnear, Service Manager, Adult Social Work & Social Care
Services, P&K HSCP gave a verbal update, outlining that there is a

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high number of medication incidents with the highest being “recording
error”. He assured the committee that all incidents are fully investigated
and analysed with additional training provided where errors have
occurred.  Actions being taken in the service include continuing to raise
awareness and provide clarification of when an incident is reported and
recorded, follow up training as appropriate.  He stated that the number
as a percentage of visits carried out is low and nobody was at risk of
significant harm. Further he advised that all incidents are reported to
the Care Inspectorate with a number of improvement measures taken,
including all staff having their standards and practices observed and
thereafter are reviewed annually.
In response to Councillor McCole asking about whether third party
providers the Council work with report their errors to the Council,
B Kinnear said they should and there is a working group looking at third
party reporting and monitoring third parties.
B Kinnear left the meeting.
(ii) Industrial Injuries Guidance
In response to C Weston asking if following the previous meeting this
had been reviewed as agreed, E Bayne said there are ongoing
discussions and the next action will be to engage with the unions.
(iii) Zero Tolerance Posters
In response to C Weston asking Councillors McCole and Allan what
has been done following the previous meeting where they agreed to
take zero tolerance posters forward as an action to follow up,
Councillor McCole said she understands from officers progress has
been made.
5. People and Culture – Equality Update
There was a report submitted by S Kinnear, Employee Engagement Officer
providing an update on recent and planned employment equalities
activities within Perth & Kinross Council.
In addition to the report S Kinnear said that all staff networks are meeting
again and that in relation to the anti-asylum protests and PKC’s status as a
Council of Sanctuary, David McPhee has been delivering a presentation to
SMTs which can be shared or delivered on request.
In response to Councillor McCole asking if what is being done in relation to
menopause is sufficient, E Bayne said menopause and managers awareness
is more commonplace in the conversations at work than it used to be and
reasonable supportive steps are being taken where needed.

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In response to S Hope asking if more could be done to promote the various
groups to the unions, E Bayne said there is a monthly Health and Wellbeing
Briefing that he will share with them.  We would also welcome the unions
sharing and raising awareness of content.
F Mackay said getting resources to schools can be challenging and there is a
Staff Wellbeing Project looking at alternative arrangements for education staff
who cannot attend meetings or events held centrally.
In response to V Leonard asking about specific training for managers and
whether people are aware of the additional support that is out there such as
Access to Work, E Bayne said in the past our Occupational Health provider
has delivered menopause awareness training and it’s something that can be
looked at and those additional supports such as Access to Work are part of
the conversations his team has with managers.
Resolved:
The Committee noted the ongoing employment equality activities
and their alignment with the Council’s strategic objectives.
(S Kinnear left the meeting.)
6. Health and Safety Performance Report Quarter 2 2025/26 – July –
September 2025
There was a report submitted by the Health and Safety Team Leader
(G/25/174) informing and assisting the Employees Joint Consultative
Committee in monitoring health and safety compliance and performance
across Perth and Kinross Council and providing an overview of health and
safety activities undertaken.
Resolved:
The Committee noted the contents of the report.
7. Fire Safety Performance Report – Quarter 2 2025/26 – July – September
2025
There was a report submitted by the Health and Safety Team Leader
(G/25/175) informing and assisting the Employees Joint Consultative
Committee in monitoring fire safety performance across Perth and Kinross
Council and providing an overview of fire safety activities undertaken.
In addition to the report L Hamilton said they are working on a Fire Safety
Management course for next year.
In response to Councillor McCole asking if some information on outstanding
actions could be included in the next report, L McGeorge said that this would
be provided.

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In response to Councillor Allan asking why children set off the fire alarms and
L McGeorge asking if there is anything they can do to minimise the chances
of it happening, S Stephen advised that many of the false activations of alarm
systems in schools were as a result of children with additional support needs
and schools do proactively look for solutions to stop it happening.
Resolved:
The Committee noted the contents of the report
8. Staff Reporting: Incidents of Violence/Aggression and incidents of
Distressed/Challenging Behaviour in Education Settings – Term 1
2025/26
There was a report submitted by the Quality Improvement Manager, Inclusion
and Additional Support, and Inclusion Quality Improvement Officer (G/25/176)
on Education and Learning’s performance in managing and reducing staff
reports of incidents of distressed, challenging, violent, or aggressive
behaviour that have impacted staff in the workplace.
It also provides a summary of the information gathered in Term 1 of academic
year 2025/26 in relation to staff reports of incidents in schools and other
educational settings which had an emotional or physical impact on them and
information on the activity of an established Working Group to prevent and
reduce the number of incidents.
The teachers unions submitted written questions in advance of the meeting
with F Mackay and C Weston agreeing to a written response with discussion
at a future Reducing Challenging Behaviour Group.
S Stephen said they are in year 2 of the new child’s plan and know what the
next steps with that will be and the Scottish Government are already
reviewing the revision of physical intervention guidance with no timescale on
the outcome.
In response to Councillor Allan asking if there were resources they could help
with, S Stephen said potentially around ASN and ISP and would detail them in
an email to Councillor Allan.
In response to S Hope asking about resources being directed to the small
proportion of children in P1 involved in incidents, F Mackay said P1 children
have not been in a school environment before, and it can take a couple of
terms for improvements to show from measures that have been put in place.
P1 incidents are the lowest they have been for a number of years.
Following feedback they are looking at reinstating 2 in-service days in August
and there is a proposal for a full week off in February.
In response to Councillor McCole asking about investment in ASN/ISP
provision for early years and childcare, F Mackay said there has been this

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year focussed on early years which should improve independence and
communication skills.
K Robertson said school holidays have been approved up to 26/27 with dates
for 27/28 to 28/29 being drafted and will be put to unions encompassing
F Mackay’s earlier points.
Resolved:
The Committee noted the content of the report and ongoing activity by a multi-
agency group to reduce and prevent future incidents of distressed
challenging, violent or aggressive behaviour and improve staff experience in
Early Learning and Childcare (ELC) settings and schools
9. Health and Wellbeing Update
There was a report submitted by the People and Culture Manager (G/25/177)
providing an update on current Health and Wellbeing data and current Health
and Wellbeing activities.
In response to C Weston asking how PKC’s absences compare nationally,
E Bayne said on 31 March 2025 they were the 10th lowest out of 32 for
teaching staff and 4th lowest for all staff with work being done to improve
those figures.
Resolved:
The Committee noted the position regarding Health and Wellbeing
10. Employee Survey
P Johnstone had hoped to have overview of the data but it was not available
for the meeting.
Will be brought to the next meeting.
11. Any Other Competent Business
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12. Date of Next Meeting
1 April 2026