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Minute of Meeting of Audit and Risk Committee of 29 June 2026 for Approval

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Audit and Risk Committee 
Minute of hybrid meeting of the Audit and Risk Committee held in the Council
Chambers on Monday 29 June 2026 at 1.00pm. 
Present: Councillors D Illingworth, B Brawn, L Barrett, M Frampton (substituting for K
Harvey), G Laing (substituting for A Chan), I MacPherson and G Stewart. 
In Attendance: L Simpson, Strategic Lead – Legal and Governance; S Walker,
Strategic Lead – Finance and Business Support; A O’Brien, J Sailsbury and G
Walker (Finance and Business Support); P Johnstone and L Hamilton (Strategic
Planning, People and Performance), N Lennon (Housing and Communities); S
Thompson (Health and Social Care Partnership); J Clark, K Molley, E Ferguson and
M Pasternak (all Legal and Governance). 
Also in Attendance: P Bryan (Audit Scotland). 
Apologies: Councillors A Chan and K Harvey 
Councillor D Illingworth, Convener, Presiding. 
1. Welcome and Apologies/Substitutions 
The Convener welcomed everyone to the meeting and apologies and
substitutes were noted as above. 
2. Declarations of Interest 
There were no declarations of interest made in terms of the Councillors’ Code
of Conduct. 
3. Minute of Meeting of the Audit and Risk Committee of 23 March 2026 for
Approval 
The minute of meeting of the Audit and Risk Committee of 23 March 2026
was submitted and approved as a correct record apart from a typo under item 6.
25-09 - Petty Cash where the sentence to be corrected to ‘consolidation of
finance’. 
4. Outstanding Business Statement 
Resolved: 
(i) The contents of the Outstanding Business Statement, be noted. 
(ii) It be agreed that completed actions would be removed from the Outstanding
Business Statement.

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5. Unaudited 2025/26 Annual Accounts (Draft) 
There was submitted a report by Chief Finance Officer (26/190) presenting the
Council’s unaudited 2025/26 Annual Accounts (draft) in accordance with the Local
Authority Accounts (Scotland) Regulations 2014. 
Councillor G Laing queried how confident the Chief Finance Officer was that
Audit Scotland would produce the audited accounts by 30 November 2026. S Walker
confirmed that the Council have had positive conversations with Audit Scotland and
that they are on track to deliver the accounts by 30 November. S Walker added that
they are hoping to be able to bring the accounts even earlier for consideration,
however, do not want to make any commitment at this stage.   
In response to a question from Councillor G Stewart regarding support to the
Proper Officer, S Walker referred to a recent publication by CIPFA which set out
what the Chief Finance Officer should expect in terms of being able to deliver a
professional finance team that are competent and capable to produce the
information required by the Council. S Walker highlighted the positive work being
carried out by the finance team in Perth and Kinross Council, including the work to
deliver the unaudited accounts to Audit Scotland on time. S Walker confirmed that he
was comfortable with the abilities of the finance team but advised there are
opportunities for him to raise any issues with Elected Members or Senior Officers if
he felt that it was necessary. In response to a supplementary question from
Councillor G Stewart regarding resilience, S Walker advised that there are several
young people going through CIFPA courses to gain qualifications and confirmed that
the Council are in a better position over recent years in relation to succession
planning.   
Councillor B Brawn queried how confident the Chief Finance Officer was that
Audit Scotland would concur with his view that the Council is fit for purpose. S
Walker expressed that he was very confident that the Council would receive a clean
audit certificate. S Walker added that officers have regular conversations with Audit
Scotland around any issues or matters arising and confirmed that work was being
carried out with Audit Scotland all year round. In response to a supplementary
question from Councillor B Brawn, S Walker confirmed that the Council does have
financial challenges ahead. S Walker advised that he was confident that the
organisation would continue to deliver essential services, however, those services
may need to be delivered differently. S Walker added that the Strategic and
Executive Leadership teams are starting to look at the budget setting process for
2027/28 to see what can be brought forward, which would then be reported through
the budget review groups. 
Councillor G Laing quired if the Council are looking to set aside more to
maintain and improve the Council’s capital assets, S Walker advised that as part of
the budget process, money had been invested into bridges and roads, however there
would not be enough finance due to the size of Perth and Kinross. S Walker added
that teams involved are applying a risk-based approach and continue to monitor
sites, especially throughout bad weather events.  S Walker confirmed that through
conversations at the Corporate Investment Group and the Asset Management

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Group, colleagues are doing what they can to keep on top of the Council’s key
assets. 
Members thanked the finance team for their work in preparing the draft
accounts and highlighted that the narratives in the management commentary are
more user friendly. 
Resolved:
(i) The Chief Finance Officer, be authorised to sign the unaudited 2025/26
Annual Accounts. 
(ii) It be noted that it is anticipated that the unsigned audited 2025/26 Annual
Accounts will be considered by the Audit & Risk Committee on 30 November
2026. 
6. Perth and Kinross Council Best Value Thematic Work – Asset
Management 
There was submitted a report by Audit Scotland (26/191) (1) setting out the
findings and four recommendations for improvement contained in the Perth &
Kinross Council Best Value Thematic Work on Asset Management; and (2) providing
a response and details actions that will be progressed in respect of the
recommendations. 
P Bryan, Audit Scotland, provided a summary of the report. 
Councillor L Barrett referred to the first key message that states the Council’s
asset challenge process provides a good model to inform decision making, however,
data to fully implement the process for property assets is lacking, limiting its
effectiveness and queried how the issue would be addressed. S Walker confirmed
that the Council does hold a lot of data, but that data was not currently held for all
assets. G Walker added that the key message was referring to utilisation data which
the Council currently holds for Perth and Kinross school estate. G Walker confirmed
that once an area of review had been undertaken, the utilisation data would be
captured for assets at that time.   
Councillor G Laing queried the definition of capital project and asked if it be
due to a project being over a certain numerical value or due to strategic importance
in a specific area of Perth and Kinross. P Bryan confirmed that there was not a clear
definition in place and that Audit Scotland are working with the Council on criteria. S
Walker added that officers have assessed projects which they think Elected
Members would be interested in, which could be a mixture of high and low monetary
values. S Walker added that words would be included in the next capital monitoring
report to the Finance and Resources Committee to say that projects would continue
to be assessed on an individual basis. 
In response to a question from the Convener regarding the four
recommendations of the report, P Bryan confirmed that the recommendations are
largely administrative points but advised that the most significant one to address

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would be recommendation two as this would be a larger piece of work for the Council
in terms of creating the performance measures and being clear on what and how
often information should be reported. P Bryan confirmed that overall the report was
positive and that the recommendations outlined are more suggestions going forward
to ensure that good practice remains in place. 
Members thanked officers and Audit Scotland for the positive report. 
Resolved: 
The Contents of Audit Scotland’s Best Value Thematic Work, be noted. 
7. Internal Audit Follow Up 
There was submitted a report by Chief Internal Auditor (26/192) presenting
current summary of Internal Audit’s ‘follow up’ work relating to actions due for
completion up to April 2026. 
Councillor L Barrett referred to the actions on business continuity plans and
queried how confident the Chief Internal Auditor was that the next set of deadlines
would be achieved. J Clark confirmed that for the remaining two BCPs, one service
are currently awaiting a test on their BCP to take place and in the other service,
there are significant areas which have their own standalone business continuity
arrangements which are regularly being tested, however, the information had not yet
been consolidated into one plan for that strategic area. J Clark added that she had
been advised that the actions would meet the September deadline. 
Resolved: 
The current position in respect of the agreed actions arising from Internal
Audit’s work, be noted. 
8. Internal Audit Update 
There was submitted a report by Chief Internal Auditor (26/193) presenting a
summary of Internal Audit’s work undertaken as part of the Internal Audit Plans for
2024/25 and 2025/26. 
Resolved:
The progress with Internal Audit activity, be noted. 
9. Internal Audit – 25-04 Health and Safety 
There was submitted a report by Chief Internal Auditor (26/194) presenting an
audit undertaken on Health and Safety as part of the Internal Audit Plan for 2025-26,
which was approved by the Audit & Risk Committee in June 2025.

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Councillor G Laing asked for further information about the role of the health
and safety team. L Hamilton confirmed that the health and safety team sits in People
and Culture Services within the Council, and the role of the team would be to support
managers in discharging their responsibilities. L Hamiton added that in areas such as
Friarton or housing repairs, there are many staff with higher risk activities. L Hamilton
added that someone from the health and safety team works closely with the senior
managers in those areas to provide support in terms of health and safety.  L Hamiton
advised the Council does not use external consultants for health and safety. 
Councillor L Barrett raised concerns over the 23 actions detailed in the audit
and queried if the timescales in the management plan are sufficiently robust to address
the risk and if the deadlines would be achieved. P Johnstone confirmed that
management are responsible for health and safety in their own area of work, for
ensuring robust risk assessments and safe systems of work are in place and that staff
that are undertaking certain activities have been fully trained. P Johnstone added that
conversations had been held with internal audit and services in preparation of the
report and advised that she felt the timescales included were realistic and meet with
the risk level placed against them.  Councillor L Barrett asked if members concern
could be passed to services given the seriousness with some of the actions. 
Members thanked J Clark, her team and other relevant officers for their work
on the audit. 
Resolved:
The contents of Report 26/194, be noted. 
10. Internal Audit – 25-07 Insurance 
There was submitted a report by Chief Internal Auditor (26/195) presenting an
audit undertaken on Perth and Kinross Insurance as part of the Internal Audit Plan
for 2025-26, which was approved by the Audit & Risk Committee in June 2025. 
Members thanked J Clark, her team and other relevant officers for their work
on the audit. 
Resolved:
The contents of Report 26/195, be noted. 
11. Internal Audit – 24-04 Affordable Housing 
There was submitted a report by Chief Internal Auditor (26/196) presenting an
audit undertaken on Perth and Kinross Affordable Housing as part of the Internal
Audit Plan for 2024-25, which was approved by the Audit & Risk Committee in June
2024. 
Councillor G Stewart referred to the relationship between the property team and
the paralegals and queried if shared access had been put in place for buybacks to
enhance efficiency and communication, instead of having standalone records. N

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Lennon advised that two record keeping systems were still in place, however,
confirmed that the paralegals now have access to the documentation raised by the
buyback officer. N Lennon added that there has been agreement to meet twice a year
to raise any issues. 
In response to a question from the Vice-Convener regarding the nature of the
audit, J Clark confirmed that the audit was undertaken on the delivery of affordable
housing provision and that a specific reference to buybacks had been included due to
the high numbers that had exceeded annual targets. J Clark confirmed that across the
board the arrangements are satisfactory, however, the actions have been put in place
so the Chief Internal Auditor can be able to place substantial assurance over the
Council’s achievements on affordable housing. 
In response to a question from the Convener, J Clark confirmed that good
progress has been made and anticipated that she would be able to place substantial
assurance once all actions are completed. 
Members thanked J Clark, her team and other relevant officers for their work
on the audit. 
Resolved:
The contents of Report 26/196, be noted. 
12. Internal Audit Annual Report & Internal Audit Opinion 2025/26 
There was submitted a report by Chief Internal Auditor (26/197) presenting the
year-end report and audit opinion of the Chief Internal Auditor for 2025/26. 
In response to a question from Councillor G Laing regarding the Global
Internal Audit Standards, J Clark advised that with the new standards there had been
little difference shown in the way that internal audit carry out their audits, however,
confirmed that the GIAS have created greater emphasis on the governance around
internal audit and the requirements for evidencing. 
The Vice-Convener referred to whistleblowing and queried if internal audit
receives many requests through the email or telephone line from employees with
concerns at work. J Clark confirmed that internal audit does not receive many
requests through the helpline which was positive. J Clark added that for issues to
reach this level, it would imply there had been a failing or breakdown in
communication earlier in the process. An employee should be able to raise a
concern with their line manager or Strategic Lead, and the issue should be
sufficiently dealt with at that point. 
Resolved:
The contents of this report, be noted, specifically the conclusion of the Chief
Internal Auditor, which states that reasonable reliance can be placed on the
Council’s risk management and governance arrangements, and systems of
internal control for 2025/26.

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13. Internal Audit Mandate & Charter 
There was submitted a report by Chief Internal Auditor (26/198) presenting
Internal Audit’s Mandate and Charter, in accordance with the Global Internal Audit
Standards in the UK Public Sector (GIAS (UKPS)). 
Resolved:
The Internal Audit Mandate & Charter which is aligned to the requirements of
the Global Internal Audit Standards (GIAS) and their application in the UK
Public Sector and the CIPFA Code of Practice for the Governance of Internal
Audit in Local Government, be approved and it be confirmed it accurately
reflects their understanding and expectations of the IA function. 
(There followed a short recess and the meeting reconvened at 2.27pm) 
14. Internal Audit Strategy & Plan 2026/27 
There was submitted a report by Chief Internal Auditor (26/199) presenting the
Strategy for the delivery of Internal Audit services for Perth and Kinross Council, and
the proposed approach for the direction of planned Internal Audit work for 2026/27. 
In response to a question from Councillor G Laing regarding elected member
input into the plan, J Clark confirmed that the idea could be taken forward and that
she would look to formally consult with members of the Audit and Risk Committee
over the next plan.   
Resolved: 
The strategy and plan for 2026/27, be approved. 
15. National Fraud Initiative 2024/25 Outcomes 
There was submitted a report by Chief Internal Auditor (26/200) outlining the
action that has been taken by Perth & Kinross Council in response to the
requirements of the National Fraud Initiative for 2024/25. 
Councillor G Laing asked for further information regarding the process of blue
badges when someone has passed away and queried if there had been any cases of
others using a blue badge when it does not belong to them. J Clark confirmed that
the process Tell Us Once would be used in connection with blue badges so if a death
has been registered in Perth and Kinross and badge was held, the badge would be
cancelled. J Clark added that internal audit did not see any instances of fraud after
someone had passed, however, J Clark agreed that majority of errors could be that
blue badges have been disposed of or left somewhere not used. In response to a
supplementary question from Councillor G Laing, J Clark confirmed that blue badges
would need to be reapplied for every three years or they would become invalid. J

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Clark confirmed that internal audit did not receive any reapplications following the
death of a holder. 
Resolved:
(i) It be noted that Perth & Kinross Council takes seriously its obligations for
taking part in the NFI exercise.
(ii) The actions taken by Perth & Kinross Council in response to the requirements
of the NFI, be noted.
(iii) It be noted that the 2024/25 exercise is now complete, with financial outcomes
for Perth & Kinross recorded as £131,236.42. 
16. Strategic Risk Annual Report 
There was submitted a report by Strategic Lead – Legal and Governance
(26/201) (1) providing assurance that the Council’s Risk Management Framework is
adequate and effective and (2) advising the Committee of the current key strategic
risks facing the organisation and how these risks are being mitigated and managed. 
Members thanked officers for their work in developing and monitoring the
Strategic Risk Register. 
Resolved:
(i) The contents of Report 26/201, be considered and appropriate and
constructive challenge and comment, be provided.
(ii) The current key strategic risks which have been identified through the
application of the approved risk management process, be noted.
(iii) The assurance as to adequacy and effectiveness of the risk management
framework, be accepted. 
IT WAS AGREED THAT THE PUBLIC AND PRESS SHOULD BE EXCLUDED
DURING CONSIDERATION OF THE FOLLOWING ITEM IN ORDER TO AVOID
THE DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION WHICH IS EXEMPT IN TERMS OF
SCHEDULE 7A TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT (SCOTLAND) ACT 1973 
P1. Strategic Risk Annual Report – Appendix 1 SR06 
Resolved: 
The contents of the risk SR06 be noted and assurance be accepted. 
P2. Internal Audit Follow Up – Appendix 2 
There was submitted a report by Chief Internal Auditor (26/192) presenting a
current summary of Internal Audit’s ‘follow up’ work relating to actions due for
completion up to April 2026 (Parkdale Care Home).

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Resolved:
The current position in respect of the agreed actions arising from Internal
Audit’s work, outlined in Appendix 2 to Report 26/192, be noted. 
P3 Parkdale Progress Update 
There was submitted a report by Chief Internal Auditor (26/202) providing the
Audit & Risk Committee with a progress report on the control environment at
Parkdale following the appointment of new management. This was as a result of the
initial whistleblowing report considered by the Audit & Risk Committee in December
2025. 
Resolved: 
The progress of the Internal Audit activity, be noted.