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Minutes, 11/09/2023 Pre-Agenda Briefing of the Planning, Protective Services and Licensing Committee

Argyll and Bute Council · 20 September 2023
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MINUTES of MEETING of PLANNING, PROTECTIVE SERVICES AND LICENSING COMMITTEE
held BY MICROSOFT TEAMS on WEDNESDAY, 23 AUGUST 2023 
Present: Councillor Kieron Green (Chair) 
Councillor John Armour
Councillor Gordon Blair
Councillor Jan Brown
Councillor Amanda Hampsey
Councillor Graham Hardie 
Councillor Mark Irvine
Councillor Andrew Kain
Councillor Liz McCabe
Councillor Luna Martin
Councillor Peter Wallace 
Attending: Stuart McLean, Committee Manager
Fiona Macdonald, Solicitor
Applicant
Sergeant David Holmes, Police Scotland 
1. APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE 
Apologies for absence were received from Councillors Audrey Forrest, Daniel Hampsey,
Paul Kennedy and Dougie Philand. 
2. DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST 
There were no declarations of interest. 
The Committee resolved in terms of Section 50(A)(4) of the Local Government (Scotland)
Act 1973 to exclude the press and public for the following item of business on the grounds
that it was likely to involve the disclosure of exempt information as defined in Paragraphs
3 and 14 of Part 1 of Schedule 7A to the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973. 
3. CIVIC GOVERNMENT (SCOTLAND) ACT 1982: APPLICATION FOR GRANT OF
A STREET TRADER LICENCE 
The Chair welcomed everyone to the meeting.  In line with recent legislation for Civic
Government Hearings, the parties (and any representatives) were given the options for
participating in the meeting today.  The options available were by video call, by audio call
or by written submission.  For this hearing the Applicant opted to proceed by way of audio
call and joined the meeting by telephone. 
Police Scotland also opted to proceed by way of audio call and Sergeant David Holmes
joined the meeting by telephone. 
The Chair then outlined the procedure that would be followed and invited the Applicant to
speak in support of his application.   
APPLICANT 
The Applicant spoke in support of his application.

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QUESTIONS FROM POLICE SCOTLAND 
Sergeant Holmes was given the opportunity to ask the Applicant questions.  He confirmed
he had no questions. 
POLICE SCOTLAND 
Sergeant Holmes spoke in support of the Chief Constable’s objection. 
QUESTIONS FROM APPLICANT 
The Applicant was given the opportunity to ask Police Scotland questions.   
MEMBERS’ QUESTIONS 
The Members were given the opportunity to ask the Applicant and Police Scotland
questions. 
SUMMING UP 
Police Scotland 
Sergeant Holmes advised that he had nothing further to add. 
Applicant 
The Applicant advised that he had nothing further to add. 
When asked, both parties confirmed that they had received a fair hearing. 
DEBATE 
The Members debated the application for a Street Trader Licence. 
Motion 
To agree to refuse the application for a Street Trader’s Licence on the grounds that the
Applicant was not a fit and proper person to be the holder of the Licence. 
Moved by Councillor Kieron Green, seconded by Councillor Graham Hardie. 
Amendment 
To agree to continue consideration of this application until the conclusion of the pending
court case on 9 October 2023 and to bring the matter back to the PPSL Committee on 18
October 2023. 
Moved by Councillor John Armour, seconded by Councillor Gordon Blair 
A vote was taken by calling the roll.

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Motion    Amendment 
Councillor Green   Councillor Armour
Councillor A Hampsey  Councillor Blair
Councillor Hardie   Councillor Brown
Councillor Irvine
Councillor Kain
Councillor McCabe
Councillor Martin
Councillor Wallace 
The Motion was carried by 8 votes to 3 and the Committee resolved accordingly. 
DECISION 
The Committee agreed to refuse the application for grant of a Street Trader’s Licence on
the grounds that the Applicant was not a fit and proper person to be the holder of the
Licence and noted that the Applicant would receive written confirmation of this decision
within 7 days. 
(Reference: Report by Head of Legal and Regulatory Support, submitted)