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Planning, Protective Services and Licensing Committee held on 24 January 2024 at 2.00 pm

Argyll and Bute Council · 21 February 2024
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MINUTES of MEETING of PLANNING, PROTECTIVE SERVICES AND LICENSING COMMITTEE
held BY MICROSOFT TEAMS on WEDNESDAY, 24 JANUARY 2024 
Present: Councillor Amanda Hampsey (Chair) 
Councillor John Armour
Councillor Jan Brown
Councillor Audrey Forrest
Councillor Kieron Green 
Councillor Graham Hardie
Councillor Liz McCabe
Councillor Dougie Philand
Councillor Peter Wallace 
Attending: Shona Barton, Governance Manager
Fiona Macdonald, Solicitor
Katie Clanahan, Solicitor
Peter McDougall, Applicant 
1. APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE 
Apologies for absence were received from Councillors Gordon Blair, Daniel Hampsey,
Mark Irvine, Andrew Kain and Paul Kennedy. 
2. DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST 
There were no declarations of interest. 
3. CIVIC GOVERNMENT (SCOTLAND) ACT 1982: APPLICATION FOR GRANT OF
A TAXI CAR LICENCE (P MCDOUGALL, HELENSBURGH) 
The Chair welcomed everyone to the meeting.  In line with recent legislation for Civic
Government Hearings, the parties (and any representatives) were given the options for
participating in the meeting today.  The options available were by video call, by audio call
or by written submission.  For this hearing the Applicant opted to proceed by way of audio
call and Mr McDougall joined the meeting by telephone. 
The Governance Manager outlined the procedure that would be followed and thereafter
the Chair invited the Applicant to speak in support of his application. 
APPLICANT 
Mr McDougall advised that he had been working for his Uncle as a taxi driver and as his
Uncle was retiring he was applying to get his own plate.  He advised that he enjoyed the
job and had previous experience working with the public in the retail business.  He
commented that working as a taxi driver was the best job he’d had all his working life and
that he wanted to carry on with this as a full time career. 
MEMBERS’ QUESTIONS 
Councillor Brown sought and received confirmation from Mr McDougall that he had a taxi
driver licence and that he was now applying for his own taxi car licence.  Mr McDougall
advised that he would like to work for himself as it would bring him a higher income.

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Councillor Brown sought and received confirmation from Mr McDougall that the car he
would use had not been used as a taxi before.  He said that the previous vehicle was a
Toyota and this was a Ford Focus. 
Councillor Brown sought and received confirmation from Mr McDougall that if this licence
was granted he would arrange for his vehicle to be inspected prior to using it and that he
would also need to arrange for a meter to be fitted and a taxi sign displayed. 
SUMMING UP 
Applicant 
Mr McDougall advised that he would be extremely grateful if he was granted this licence
as it would be life changing for him.  He said that he enjoyed the job and that it would be a
full time career for him.  He advised that he enjoyed dealing with the public and that he felt
this was the perfect job for him. 
Mr McDougall confirmed that he had received a fair hearing. 
DEBATE 
Councillor Hardie referred to a slight over provision of taxis in the Helensburgh and
Lomond area but advised that he believed the Applicant would be well suited to this job
and that he would be happy to grant the licence. 
Councillor Philand said that it was heartening to hear from the Applicant that he enjoyed
his job.  He commented that it was also a very difficult job and that the fact that the
Applicant enjoyed it would mean he would get a lot out of it while providing a vital service. 
He confirmed that he would be happy to approve the application. 
Councillor Forrest advised that she would have no hesitation in approving the application. 
Councillor Brown advised that she would also like to approve the application. 
Councillor Green commented that as with similar applications from Helensburgh recently,
and the Committee not being certain of the accuracy of the data within the survey
conducted a number of years ago now, he would be content with approving any
application at the moment where the Applicant seemed to be a good fit.  He confirmed that
he would be happy to approve this application. 
Councillor McCabe advised that she agreed with everyone else and would be happy to
grant this licence. 
Councillor Wallace said he would also be happy to approve the application. 
Councillor Armour also agreed to support the application. 
Councillor Hampsey said she agreed that this would be a much needed service for the
Helensburgh and Lomond area and commented that she was sure it would be appreciated
by the local community as well.  She noted that the Members of the Committee
unanimously agreed that this licence should be granted. 
DECISION

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The Committee unanimously agreed to grant a Taxi Car Licence to Mr McDougall and
noted that he would receive written confirmation of this within 7 days. 
(Reference: Report by Head of Legal and Regulatory Support, submitted)