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221114 PFRC Minute

North Ayrshire Council · 7 February 2023
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Police and Fire and Rescue Committee
14 November 2022 
IRVINE - At a Meeting of the Police and Fire and Rescue Committee of North
Ayrshire Council at 2.00 p.m. involving participation by remote electronic means and
physical attendance within the Council Chambers, Irvine. 
Present (Physical Participation)
Donald Reid, Nairn McDonald, Scott Davidson, Jean McClung, Davina McTiernan
and John Sweeney. 
Present (Remote Attendance)
John Glover. 
In Attendance
W. Turpie, Senior Manager (Waste Operations) (Place); R. Lynch, Senior Manager
(Legal Services), Claire Cochrane, Solicitor (Legal Services), D. McCaw and H.
Clancy, Committee Services Officers (Chief Executive’s Service). 
Also In Attendance
Chief Superintendent F. Hussain and Police Inspector S. Dougan (Police Scotland);
Area Commander I. McMeekin, and Group Commander S. Nesbit (Scottish Fire and
Rescue Service). 
Chair
Councillor Donald Reid in the Chair. 
Apologies
Donald L. Reid and Angela Stephen. 
1. Declarations of Interest 
There were no declarations of interest by Members in terms of Standing Order 11
and Section 5 of the Code of Conduct for Councillors. 
2. Minutes 
The Minutes of the Meeting of the Audit and Scrutiny Committee held on 15 August
2022 were confirmed and the Minutes signed in accordance with Paragraph 7 (1) of
Schedule 7 of the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973. 
3. Scottish Fire and Rescue Service Performance and Service Update 
Submitted report by the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (SFRS) which provided
information on progress against the North Ayrshire Local Fire and Rescue Plan for
the period 1 April 2022 – 30 September 2022.  Appendix A to the report provided
an analysis of the performance across six indicators, using the rolling three-year
average as a basis of measuring performance.  The Strategic Plan for the period
2022-2025 was detailed at Appendix B to the report.

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The statistical information identified a 7.3% decrease in activity levels across the
local authority when compared to the corresponding period in 2021.  A further
review of the three-year average indicated a 0.3% decrease in overall operational
activity during a similar timeframe.  Data on false alarms accounted for 56.3% of all
demand within North Ayrshire, with fire related and special service activity
accounting for 30.5% and 13.2% respectively. 
Updates were also provided in relation to publication of the Strategic Plan for the
period 2022-2025, the appointment of Ross Haggart as Interim Chief Officer of the
Scottish Fire and Rescue Service, pre budget scrutiny evidence provided to the
Criminal Justice Committee on the organisation’s planning assumptions for the
period 2022/23-2026/27, work with partners to deliver programmes and initiatives
to support the safety of local residents during the period 4-6 November 2022 and
the recent successful visit to the National Training Centre, Cambuslang, Glasgow
and the Command and Control Centre in Johnstone. 
Members asked questions and were provided with further information in relation to:- 
• the provision of updated Ward information to correspond with the launch of the
new Strategic Plan;
• the variations within Wards relative to unwanted fire alarm signals;
• heightened instances of deliberate fire setting within the Stevenston area; and
• community engagement and partnership working in place to tackle deliberate
fire setting. 
Councillor Glover intimated a question from a Local North Coast Member regarding
willful fires in the North Coast area.  The Chair asked Councilor Glover to have the
Local Member email the question to the Chair and this would be processed and a
response provided. 
The Chair, on behalf of the Committee, thanked the Group Commander for the
informative visit to the Fire and Rescue National Training Centre and Operations
Control Centre. 
Noted. 
4. Police Scotland Performance Update 
Submitted report by Police Scotland on performance in relation to the North Ayrshire
Local Policing Plan for the period 1 April 2022 - 30 September 2022 together with an
overview of performance for year end 2021/22. A summary of current local policing
plan priorities was also detailed. 
The report provided information on North Ayrshire’s performance, including a 0.5%
decrease in the total number of crimes. The report further outlined progress in the
areas of serious crime, safer communities, acquisitive crime, community wellbeing,
road safety and public confidence with additional context being provided by Chief
Superintendent Hussain to the meeting. 
Members asked questions and were provided with further information in relation to:-

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• young people accessing vaping equipment which would be monitored by
Campus Officers;
• partnership working to deal with instances of reckless parking and vehicle
obstruction;
• reporting and monitoring in connection with assaults on retail workers;
• the slight increase in transphobic hate crimes and plans to monitor incidents;
• potential under-reporting relating to instances of fraudulent emails, texts and
phone calls;
• instances of violence with regard to public transport; and
• plans in place to target instances of serious crime and violence. 
The Chair, on behalf of the Committee, thanked the Chief Superintendent for the
informative visit to the Police Scotland C3 Division in Glasgow. 
The Committee was then provided with verbal updates from the Fire and Rescue
Service, Police Scotland and the Council’s Streetscene Service in relation to Operation
Moonbeam, Police Scotland’s national response to a variety of offences and incidents
arising in relation to Bonfire Night. Police Scotland and the Scottish Fire and Rescue
Service jointly patrolled streets and the Council’s Streetscene Service provided early
identification of bonfire locations in order that material at some sites could be safely
removed.  It was highlighted that the planned events at Kilwinning, Dreghorn and in
the Three Towns were well attended and well organised. 
The Council’s Streetscene Service was praised by the Committee in relation to the
clear up across North Ayrshire following Bonfire night. 
The Committee agreed (a) that the Senior Manager, Legal Services prepare a Briefing
Note on (i) Legislation surrounding the provision of fireworks; and (ii) Operation
Moonbean, including information from Police Scotland, Scottish Fire and Rescue
Service and Streetscene, for circulation to Members and also for addition as an item
to the Agenda for the next meeting of the Committee; and (b) otherwise, to note the
content of the report. 
5. Urgent Items 
In terms of Standing Order 10.8, the Chair agreed that the following item be
considered as urgent to allow a response to be submitted by the 16 November 2022
deadline. 
5.1 Local Police Plans: A Framework for Scrutiny 
The Senior Manager, Legal Services, advised the Committee on a request from
COSLA for feedback on the draft framework in connection with the development of
COSLA-SPA Police Scrutiny Guidance for Elected Members prior to it being
considered by the COSLA Community Wellbeing Board and presented to the COSLA
Scrutiny Conveners Forum.

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The Committee was advised that the framework would be expanded upon and
adapted as appropriate at Local Authority level in recognition that local scrutiny
arrangements vary across the country. 
Councillor McDonald, seconded by Councillor McTiernan moved to remit to the Senior
Manager, Legal Services, in conjunction with the Chair, to finalise the response in
terms of the draft framework for submission to COSLA by the deadline of 16 November
2022.  There being no amendment the motion was declared carried. 
The meeting ended at 3.30 p.m.