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230118 Special Council Minute (Final)

North Ayrshire Council · 15 February 2023
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North Ayrshire Council
18 January 2023 
At a Special Meeting of North Ayrshire Council at 1.00 p.m. involving a combination of
participation by remote electronic means and physical attendance within the Council
Chambers, Irvine 
Present (Physical Participation)
John Bell, Eleanor Collier, Joe Cullinane, Anthea Dickson, Stewart Ferguson, Robert
Foster, Alan Hill, Tony Gurney, Cameron Inglis, Margaret Johnson, Jean McClung,
Nairn McDonald, Matthew McLean, Ronnie Stalker and John Sweeney. 
Present (Remote Electronic Participation)
Timothy Billings, Todd Ferguson, Scott Gallacher, John Glover, Amanda Kerr, Tom
Marshall, Louise McPhater, Davina McTiernan, Jim Montgomerie, Donald Reid and
Donald L. Reid. 
In Attendance
C. Hatton, Chief Executive; C. Cameron, Director (Health and Social Care Partnership);
R. McCutcheon, Executive Director (Place); A. Sutton, Executive Director (Communities
and Education); M. Boyd, Head of Service (Finance); F. Walker, Head of Service
(People and ICT); and A. Craig, Head of Service, R. Lynch, Senior Manager (Legal
Services), M. McColm, Senior Manager (Communications), M. Anderson, Senior
Manager (Committee and Member Services) and H. Clancy and C. Stewart, Committee
Services Officers (Democratic Services). 
Chair
Provost Dickson in the Chair. 
Apologies
Councillors Marie Burns, Scott Davidson, Christina Larsen, Shaun Macaulay, Ian
Murdoch, Chloé Robertson and Angela Stephen. 
1. Provost's Remarks 
The Provost welcomed those present to the Special Meeting of the Council, which had
been called following a requisition in terms of Standing Order 3.4.   
Thereafter, the Provost dealt with preliminary matters, including intimation that the
meeting, which was taking place on a hybrid basis, would be live streamed to the
internet.

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2. Apologies 
The Provost invited intimation of apologies for absence, which were recorded.   
3.  Declarations of Interest 
There were no declarations of interest in terms of Standing Order 11 and Section 5 of
the Councillors' Code of Conduct. 
There were no declarations of the Party Whip. 
4. Motions 
The Provost introduced this item of business, reminding Members that a period of 45
minutes was allocated for dealing the motion, in terms of Standing Order 15.6. 
In terms of Standing Order 3.4, a written requisition, signed by nine Members of the
Council, had been submitted calling for consideration of the undernoted motion: 
(1) a motion proposed by Councillor Foster and seconded by Councillor McDonald in
the following terms: 
“North Ayrshire Council expresses its extreme disappointment with the budget
settlement for local government and with its presentation which the Labour Group
believe is both unethical and dishonest and is in no way consistent with a partnership
approach. 
Council notes that most of the supposed £550m additional funding is for existing
commitments and that the £71m of uncommitted funding goes no way towards meeting
the identified budget gap in council funding of £612m due to inflation, energy prices and
demand pressures, and the requirement for more than £400m likely to be needed for
pay settlements in the coming year to address recruitment and retention issues and
avoid understandable industrial action by trade unions. 
This budget settlement means another massive real terms cut in councils’ core funding,
after more than 10 years of real terms cuts, and will lead to socially harmful cuts to vital
local services and the loss of jobs within local authorities and from local companies that
rely on councils for their employment. 
Council further notes the additional burden on council finances from revaluation of non-
domestic properties and condemns the threat by the Scottish Government to cut grant
funding if councils were to be successful in appealing against redeterminations. 
For North Ayrshire Council, the initial assessment of the local government settlement by
the Council’s finance team estimates a budget gap of over £10million in 2023/24.

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Council therefore agrees: 
1. That the Council should make a robust public response to the budget statement,
challenging in the strongest possible terms the presentation of the supposed
£550m additional funding and highlighting the massive real terms cut in funding
for vital local services; 
2. That the CEO writes a letter to the First Minister and the Deputy First Minister on
behalf of the Council that rejects that this is a fair settlement; highlighting the
massive real terms cut to the council’s funding and the impact this budget
settlement will have on vital local services and demanding a fair settlement to
defend vital local services and jobs; 
3. That the Council undertakes an assessment of the likely job losses within the
council and local economies that will result from this budget settlement; and 
4. The Council agrees to offer a meeting of group leaders with the local government
trade unions to set out our assessment of the impacts of this budget settlement
and seek to undertake joint action to defend vital local services and jobs.” 
As an amendment, Councillor McLean, seconded by Councillor Billings, moved as
follows: 
“North Ayrshire Council expresses its extreme disappointment with the budget
settlement for local government and with its presentation which Conservative Group
elected members believe is both unethical and dishonest and is in no way consistent
with a partnership approach.  
Council notes that most of the supposed £550m additional funding is for existing
commitments and that the £71m of uncommitted funding goes no way towards meeting
the identified budget gap in council funding of £612m due to inflation, energy prices and
demand pressures, and the requirement for more than £400m potentially needed for
pay settlements in the coming year to address recruitment and retention issues and
avoid industrial action by trade unions.  
This budget settlement means another massive real terms cut in councils’ core funding,
after more than 10 years of real terms cuts, and will lead to a reduction in local services
and the loss of jobs within local authorities and potentially to local companies that rely
on councils for their employment.  
Council further notes the additional burden on council finances from revaluation of non-
domestic properties and condemns the threat by the Scottish Government to cut grant
funding if councils were to be successful in appealing against redeterminations.  
For North Ayrshire Council, the initial assessment of the local government settlement by
the Council’s finance team estimates a budget gap of over £10 million in 2023/24.

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Council therefore agrees: 
1. That the Council should make a robust public response to the
budget statement, challenging in the strongest possible terms the
presentation of the supposed £550 additional funding and highlighting the
massive real terms cut in funding for vital local services;  
2.  That the Chief Executive writes on behalf of North Ayrshire Council to the
First Minister and the Deputy First Minister to state that:  
• the Council does not accept that the 2023/24 Scottish local authority
budget settlement by the Scottish government is fair or reasonable and
that it will result in significant reductions in critical local services that will
have detrimental impacts on services provided to the most vulnerable
within our communities. 
• the Council supports COSLA's response from December 16 2022 which
registered Council Leaders’ extreme disappointment at the budget
settlement and the Scottish Government's failure to respond to COSLA’s
SOS campaign call. North Ayrshire Council endorses calls made by
COSLA for a better budget settlement in order to defend local services. 
3. The Council agrees that as part of the North Ayrshire Council budgeting
process impact assessments on any proposals will be undertaken to ensure
that Elected Members are aware of the impacts of any possible decision.
Further, once the 2023/34 North Ayrshire Council budget has been set,
Council will work collaboratively to try to mitigate any negative impacts.   
As a further amendment, Councillor Gurney, seconded by Councillor Johnson, moved
as follows: 
“Council is deeply concerned about the impacts of the settlement that Scottish
Government has proposed for Local Government as part of this year’s Scottish Budget. 
The budget settlement as it stands means another real terms cut to Councils’ core
funding, at a time when many in our communities are struggling with the impact of
rocketing prices across fuel, food and other bills, and facing unprecedented levels of
poverty. This budget settlement will have a detrimental impact on vital local services, on
our ability to focus the necessary resources and supports to our communities and on
those who are already impacted by this cost-of-living crisis. 
In addition, Council opposes the prospect of the Scottish Government cutting grant
funding if Councils were to be successful in appealing against redeterminations, as it
negates any purpose to the appeal and removes much needed resources within Local
Government.

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Council acknowledges the impact of inflation and global economic factors that are
continuing to weigh heavily on the Scottish Government’s budgets and spending plans.
In addressing this, we believe that a partnership approach with Local Government
would be more likely to succeed in achieving better outcomes for those who need our
support the most. 
Council therefore instructs the Chief Executive to write to the Deputy First Minister in
support of COSLA’s request for a special meeting of Leaders to hear our concerns first-
hand and to work collaboratively in identifying a way forward.” 
In terms of Standing Order 16.5, Councillor Foster, with the agreement of his seconder,
agreed to incorporate into his motion the terms of the amendment by Councillor McLean,
seconded by Councillor Billings. The following, which became the substantive motion, was
duly displayed in the meeting and circulated to all Members: 
“Council therefore agrees: 
1. That the Council should make a robust public response to the budget statement,
challenging in the strongest possible terms the presentation of the supposed
£550m additional funding and highlighting the massive real terms cut in funding
for vital local services; 
2. That the CEO writes a letter to the First Minister and the Deputy First Minister on
behalf of the Council that rejects that this is a fair settlement; highlighting the
massive real terms cut to the councils funding and the impact this budget
settlement will have on vital local services and demanding a fair settlement to
defend vital local services and jobs and the Council supports COSLA's response
from December 16th 2022 which registered Council Leaders’ extreme
disappointment at the budget settlement and the Scottish Government's failure to
respond to COSLA’s SOS campaign call. North Ayrshire Council endorses calls
made by COSLA for a better budget settlement in order to defend local services 
3. That the Council undertakes an assessment of the likely job losses within the
council and local economies that will result from this budget settlement; and 
4. The Council agrees to offer a meeting of group leaders with the local government
trade unions to set out our assessment of the impacts of this budget settlement
and seek to undertake joint action to defend vital local services and jobs. 
5. The Council agrees that as part of the North Ayrshire Council budgeting process
impact assessments on any proposals will be undertaken to ensure that Elected
Members are aware of the impacts of any possible decision. Further, once the
2023/34 North Ayrshire Council budget has been set, Council will work
collaboratively to try to mitigate any negative impacts.” 
Thereafter, Councillor McLean, with the agreement of his seconder, agreed to withdraw
his amendment.

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Members asked a question, and received clarification, in respect of the mover and
seconder of the substantive motion, namely Councillors Foster and McDonald,
respectively.  Clarification was also provided with regard to one reference within the text
of the motion, which referred in error to the sum of “£500”, rather than “£500m”. 
Councillor Hill joined the meeting at this point. 
There followed debate and summing up. 
On a division and a roll call vote, there voted for the remaining amendment, Councillors
Collier, Dickson, Gurney, Hill, Johnson, McClung and McTiernan (7) and for the motion,
as amended, Councillors Bell, Billings, Cullinane, S. Ferguson, T. Ferguson, Foster,
Gallacher, Glover, Inglis, Kerr, Marshall, McDonald, McLean, McPhater, Montgomerie,
Donald Reid, Stalker and Sweeney (18), Councillor Donald L. Reid abstaining, and the
substantive motion was declared carried. 
Accordingly, the Council agreed as follows: 
1. That the Council should make a robust public response to the budget statement,
challenging in the strongest possible terms the presentation of the supposed
£550m additional funding and highlighting the massive real terms cut in funding for
vital local services; 
2. That the Chief Executive write a letter to the First Minister and the Deputy First
Minister on behalf of the Council (i) rejecting that this was a fair settlement; (ii)
highlighting the massive real terms cut to the Council’s funding and the impact this
budget settlement would have on vital local services and demanding a fair
settlement to defend vital local services and jobs; (iii) supporting COSLA's
response from December 16th 2022 which registered Council Leaders’ extreme
disappointment at the budget settlement and the Scottish Government's failure to
respond to COSLA’s SOS campaign call; and (iv) endorsing calls made by COSLA
for a better budget settlement in order to defend local services; 
3. To undertake an assessment of the likely job losses within the council and local
economies that would result from this budget settlement; 
4. To offer a meeting of Group Leaders with the local government trade unions to set
out our assessment of the impacts of this budget settlement and seek to undertake
joint action to defend vital local services and jobs; and 
5. That, as part of the North Ayrshire Council budgeting process, impact
assessments on any proposals would be undertaken to ensure that Elected
Members were aware of the impacts of any possible decision. Further, once the
2023/34 North Ayrshire Council budget had been set, Council would work
collaboratively to try to mitigate any negative impacts.”

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5. Urgent Items 
There were no urgent items. 
The meeting ended at 1.40 p.m.