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North Ayrshire Council
26 March 2025 
At a Meeting of North Ayrshire Council at 2.00 p.m. involving a combination of
participation by remote electronic means and physical attendance within the Council
Chambers, Irvine. 
Present (Physical Participation)
Nairn Angus-McDonald, John Bell, Marie Burns, Eleanor Collier, Joe Cullinane,
Charles Currie, Scott Davidson, Anthea Dickson, Stewart Ferguson, Todd Ferguson,
Robert Foster, Scott Gallacher, Tony Gurney, Alan Hill, Cameron Inglis, Margaret
Johnson, Christina Larsen, Shaun Macaulay, Jean McClung, Matthew McLean,
Davina McTiernan, Donald Reid, Chloé Robertson, Ronnie Stalker, Angela Stephen
and John Sweeney. 
Present (Remote Electronic Participation)
Jim Montgomerie and Donald L Reid.
In Attendance
C. Hatton, Chief Executive; C. Cameron, Director (Health and Social Care
Partnership); D. Hammond, Executive Director (Communities and Housing); S.
Anson, Executive Director (Education), R. McCutcheon, Executive Director (Place);
M. Boyd, Head of Service (Finance); A. Craig, Head of Service (Democratic), R.
Lynch, Senior Manager (Legal Services); M. McColm, Senior Manager
(Communications), C. Stewart and S. Wilson, Committee Services Officers
(Democratic) (Corporate Services). 
Chair
Provost Dickson in the Chair. 
Apologies
Mary Hume, Amanda Kerr, Louise McLaughlan, Tom Marshall and Ian Murdoch. 
1. Provost's Remarks 
The Provost welcomed those present to the meeting and dealt with preliminary
matters, including intimation that the meeting, which was taking place on a hybrid
basis, was being recorded. 
2. Apologies 
The Provost invited intimation of apologies for absence, which were recorded. 
3.  Declarations of Interest 
In terms of Standing Order 11 and Section 5 of the Councillors' Code of Conduct,
Councillor Robertson declared an interest in item 9 - Equalities and Children’s Rights
Impact Assessment: Exemption of care experienced learners from the policy on
school exclusion due to her employment with Aberlour Children’s Charity. Councillor
Robertson left the meeting and took no part in the deliberation or determination of
that item.

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There were no declarations of the Party Whip.
4. Previous Minutes
The accuracy of the Minutes of the Ordinary Meeting of the Council held on 12
February 2025 and the Special Meeting held on 26 February 2025 were confirmed
and the Minutes signed in accordance with Paragraph 7(1) of Schedule 7 of the
Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973.
5. Provost’s Report
Submitted report by the Provost for the period from 3 February – 16 March 2025.
Noted.
6. Leader’s Report
Submitted report by the Leader of the Council for the period for from 3 February – 16
March 2025.
Noted.
7. Council Minute Volume
Submitted for noting the Minutes of meetings of committees of the Council held in the
period 5 February - 5 March 2025.
Noted.
8. Appointments to Outside Bodies
The Council agreed to appoint Councillor Collier to serve on the Glasgow Prestwick
Airport Consultative Committee.
9. Equalities and Children’s Rights Impact Assessment: Exemption of care
experienced learners from the policy on school exclusion
Submitted report by the Executive Director (Education) on the equalities and
children’s rights impact assessment on whether care experienced learners should be
exempt from the policy on school exclusion.
Following an earlier declaration of interest, Councillor Robertson left the meeting at
this point.
Members asked questions and were provided with further information in relation to:
• work undertaken to encourage engagement with the consultation;
• the number of care experienced pupils who were subject to a reduced
timetable in recent years; and
• the number of appeals submitted against the decision to exclude care
experienced pupils in recent years.

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Councillor Macaulay, seconded by Councillor McTiernan moved the recommendation
within the report.
As an amendment, Councillor Foster, Seconded by Councillor Sweeney proposed
the following:
“The recommendation within this paper does not keep the promise to Care
Experienced people, Council instructs officers to start the process of changing our
exclusions policy to cease the practice of excluding Care Experienced pupils.”
There followed summing up.
On a division and a roll call vote, there voted for the motion, Councillors Burns,
Collier, Davidson, Dickson, S. Ferguson, T. Ferguson, Gallacher, Gurney, Hill, Inglis,
Johnson, Larsen, Macaulay, McClung, McLean, McTiernan, D.L. Reid, Stalker and
Stephen (19) and for the amendment, Councillors Angus-McDonald, Bell, Cullinane,
Currie, Foster, Montgomerie, Reid and Sweeney (8). The motion was declared
carried. 
The Council therefore agreed to (a) note the content of the equalities and children’s
rights impact assessment; (b) approve the recommendation that the option to
exclude from school as a last resort should be retained; and (c) task the education
service to further strengthen early intervention and preventative approaches, in line
with the evidence presented through the ECRIA, with a view to minimising the
number of excluded pupils who are care experienced, and to work towards meeting
the policy intent of the Promise.
Councillor Robertson rejoined the meeting at this point.
10. Questions
In terms of Standing Order 14, submitted:
(1) a question by Councillor Sweeney to the Cabinet Member for Communities,
Housing and the Islands in the following terms:
To ask the Cabinet Member for the number of people in employment who have had
to use NAC Temporary Furnished Accommodation since September 2023 due to
being homeless? 
Councillor Hill thanked the Member for his question and responded in the following
terms:
Since September 2023, the number of people in employment who have utilised
temporary accommodation is 53.  
As a supplementary question, Councillor Sweeney made reference to a motion by
Council in September 2023 instructing a review of the policy and management of
temporary furnished accommodation - including any possible adaptions or
improvements which could be made to alleviate hardship. He asked if the Cabinet
Member would agree to work with him to ensure improvements had been made to

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the service and the communications process with tenants, to alleviate the concerns
of tenants relative to accumulation of debt. 
Councillor Hill responded by advising a meeting could be arranged with the
appropriate officers to address these issues. 
(2) a question by Councillor Inglis to the Cabinet Member for Communities,
Housing and the Islands in the following terms:
With libraries being saved in the budget this year, can the cabinet member confirm if
Libraries such as the Saltcoats in my ward will still face a reduction in hours of 20%?
Councillor Hill thanked the Member for his question and responded in the following
terms:
A decision was taken by full Council in February 2024 in relation to a 20% reduction
in opening hours across the library estate. Officers developed a service delivery
model in order to progress this decision; however, we then entered the budget
engagement exercise which included further proposals for consultation in relation to
our libraries. Extensive feedback was gathered through that process regarding the
variety of services provided within library spaces, in particular the value of
community space within the buildings. 
The next steps are therefore for officers to consider this rich feedback, and the
previous decision of Council, as part of the Council’s wider land and property
transformation programme.  
Any proposals that may emerge from that work would be the subject of appropriate
future engagement including with elected members, the local community and other
important stakeholders. 
As a supplementary question, Councillor Inglis asked why this review was included in
the land and property transformation programme and not considered as a separate
review of the library service?
Councillor Hill responded by advising that library buildings deliver a wide range of
Council services therefore it was not appropriate to review as a single service
however, each building will be reviewed on an individual basis and local ward
Members will be involved in any future discussions.
(3) a question by Councillor McLean to the Cabinet Member for Communities,
Housing and the Islands in the following terms:
Is the commitment originating from the SNP budget amendment to create a
wellbeing hub in the former teacher centre at Greenwood, a new policy
commitment/proposal?
Councillor Hill thanked the Member for his question and responded in the following
terms:

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At the Council budget setting meeting on 26th February 2025, new non-recurring
investment of £300,000 was agreed to support the exploration of a wellbeing
enterprise hub at the current Greenwood Conference Centre during 2025/26. The
first phase of that work is a feasibility study to identify and scope options and
examine their viability and fit with the desired wellbeing outcomes set out in our
Council Plan and Partnership Plan, alongside the emerging work with the
Collaboration for Health Equity in Scotland.  
The project is an example of an exciting and innovative opportunity as part of our
Community Wealth Building Strategy, specifically the commitment under the Land
and Assets pillar to maximise all of our land and assets including through alternative
uses for community and economic benefit.
(4) a question by Councillor Foster to the Cabinet Member for Finance in the
following terms:
To ask the Cabinet Member how many North Ayrshire Council staff have received
VER packages of over £100k, and their job titles, since 2022? 
Councillor Larsen thanked the Member for his question and responded in the
following terms:
No individuals have received a VER payment of over £100k.  
Individuals who were accepted to leave under voluntary release are entitled to a
severance payment.    
Where an employee is a pension member and has reached the relevant age
requirements, they must take immediate payment of their pension relating to that
employment when leaving under voluntary release. Associated with this is a strain on
the fund cost which the Employer must pay.   
There were 26 individuals whose combination of both their severance payment (i.e.
the payment received by the employee) and the strain on the fund costs (i.e. that
borne by the Employer) amounted to over £100k from the period April 2022-March
2025. 
The job titles for these individuals have not been provided as these are considered to
be personal data and the information could be used to identify individuals who held
those posts.  However, these individuals were located in the following directorates: 
Corporate (8), Education (5), Place (3), Communities & Housing (8) & HSCP (2).
As a supplementary question, Councillor Foster referred to a VER package at a total
cost of  £318k for one member of staff and asked if  the Cabinet Member could
guarantee that this package met the criteria of the VER scheme particularly around
the time period to make a saving within the policy and explain how a package at this
level was possible when awarded to grades below the Executive Leadership Team
level?

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Councillor Larsen responded and advised she would not be able to comment,
however the VER process was agreed by the Staffing and Recruitment Committee
and that to her knowledge, all processes were followed correctly in that regard.  
(5) a question by Councillor T Ferguson to the Cabinet Member for Education in
the following terms:
To ask the cabinet member for education if data from the 2021/22 school health and
wellbeing census is publicly available?
Councillor Macaulay thanked the Member for his question and responded in the
following terms:
The Scottish Government published a statistical publication on the Health and
Wellbeing Census Scotland 2021- 2022 on the 28th of February 2023. This can be
found online. North Ayrshire Council, which was one of 16 local authorities to
undertake the survey, did not make our local data publicly available. In addition, all
data collected by North Ayrshire as part of the health and wellbeing census was fully
cleansed to prevent pupil identification.
As a supplementary question, Councillor T Ferguson asked if the Member agreed
that all the public data that is available for North Ayrshire students should be
removed until the investigation was concluded by the Scottish Government?
Councillor Macaulay responded and advised that it was his understanding that North
Ayrshire Council’s data was not published online and that reports suggesting the
data would be publicly accessible through the Scottish Government’s research
agency was not progressed by the Cabinet Secretary. Councillor Macaulay noted
that he is more than happy to follow this up to ensure this is still the case. 
(6) a question by Councillor McLean to the Cabinet Member for Education in the
following terms:
Does North Ayrshire's policies or guidance related to single-sex spaces, a)
distinguish between bathrooms and any other space, such as changing rooms?, b) Is
it consistent across all establishments; Council buildings, employee spaces, Early
Learning Centres/Nurseries, primary schools, secondary schools, ASN schools and
non-mainstream educational settings (such as educational units, youth homes etc.)?
Councillor Macaulay thanked the Member for his question and responded in the
following terms:
No dedicated policy or guidance exists in relation to this issue. Practice within
individual settings is based upon a range of factors that balance relevant legislation
and the specific circumstances of the setting.
As a supplementary question, Councillor McLean asked if there was a risk to North
Ayrshire Council, as a result of not having any guidance or policies which might in
turn impact members of staff.

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Councillor Macaulay responded and advised that he was of the view that the risk to
North Ayrshire Council was minimal as staff ensure that the spaces and facilities are
in alignment with the Equality Act 2010. Councillor Macaulay noted, he had not
received any notification of concerns raised however if the Member had any specific
concerns, he would advise that these are raised urgently to allow officers to
implement appropriate mitigations to ensure our spaces are safe for people to use.  
(7) a question by Councillor Angus-McDonald to the Cabinet Member for
Education in the following terms:
To ask the Cabinet Member to provide the Council’s School Level Pupil Teacher
Ratio, including the number of qualified teachers who are centrally employed and
included in the PTR calculation?
Councillor Macaulay thanked the Member for his question and responded in the
following terms:
Based on 2024 census data, the pupil teacher ratio for North Ayrshire Council is
12.4.  This compares favourably against the PTR for Scotland which is 13.3.  Our
PTR is based on a total teacher full-time equivalent staff of 1373fte, of which 49.9fte
teachers are recorded in the category of centrally employed.  
School leave PTRs are included in the table below.
School name PTR 2024
Centrally employed 0.0
Corrie Primary School 6.3
Pirnmill Primary School 6.4
Kilmory Primary School 8.0
Shiskine Primary School 8.9
Gateside Primary School 9.1
Cumbrae Primary School 9.1
Dreghorn Primary School 9.2
Brodick Primary School 9.7
St John's Primary School 9.8
Elderbank Primary School 9.9
Springside Primary School 10.0
St Winning's Primary School 10.1
Whiting Bay Primary School 10.2
Montgomerie Park Primary School (New School) 10.5
Lamlash Primary School 10.6
Ardeer Primary School 10.7
Blacklands Primary School 10.9
Loudoun-Montgomery Primary School 11.3
St Palladius' Primary School 11.4
Winton Primary School 11.7
St Peter's Primary School 12.1
Skelmorlie Primary School 12.3
Hayocks Primary School 12.5

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Caledonia Primary School 12.9
Pennyburn Primary School 12.9
St Bridget's Primary School 13.0
St Mary's Primary School 13.6
St Mark's Primary School 13.9
Moorpark Primary School 14.0
Mayfield Primary School 14.2
Dykesmains Primary School 14.3
Garnock Community Campus 14.4
Fairlie Primary School 14.4
Corsehill Primary School 14.7
Whitehirst Park Primary 14.8
Abbey Primary School 15.1
Woodlands Primary School 15.8
Lawthorn Primary School 15.9
Glencairn Primary School 15.9
Castlepark Primary School 16.1
St Luke's Primary School 16.2
St John Ogilvie Primary School 16.3
Glebe Primary School 16.4
Beith Primary School 16.5
Stanley Primary School 16.6
St Anthony's Primary School 16.6
West Kilbride Primary School 17.7
Dalry Primary School 17.8
Largs Primary School 18.6
Annick Primary School 18.6
Arran High School 7.9
Ardrossan Academy 10.5
Kilwinning Academy 11.7
Auchenharvie Academy 11.8
Irvine Royal Academy 11.9
Garnock Community Campus 12.5
Largs Academy 13.3
Greenwood Academy 13.8
St Matthew's Academy 14.0
Lockhart Campus 5.0
12.4
As a supplementary question, Councillor Angus-McDonald asked if the Cabinet
Member believed the figures to be an accurate reflection of the teacher numbers in
our classrooms given the inclusion of centrally employed teachers and the variants,
for example, between Annick Primary School with a PTR of 18.6 and Kilmory
Primary School with a PTR of 8? 
Councillor Macaulay responded and confirmed that there was some variation
between schools. Councillor Macaulay noted that teachers that are centrally

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employed provide a very valuable service in the Education Service and advised the
Member to speak to some of them about the excellent work they do to ensure that
high quality learning and teaching is present in all schools across North Ayrshire. As
a final point, Councillor Macaulay noted that the pupil teacher ratio was not created
by North Ayrshire Council and is a measurement that local authorities across
Scotland use. 
Councillor Macaulay took the opportunity to thank every member of Education staff,
whether employed centrally or within schools and communities, for the excellent
work that they do. 
(8) a question by Councillor T Ferguson to the Cabinet Member for Communities,
Housing and the Islands in the following terms:
To ask the Member what celebrations the council have planned to recognise the 80th
Anniversary of VE Day?
Councillor Hill thanked the Member for his question and responded in the following
terms:
The upcoming 80th anniversary of Victory in Europe day is an important
commemorative event and opportunity for communities to come together. Officers
have been developing plans for a programme of activity related to the anniversary
alongside consideration of support to local communities in developing their own
remembrance plans.  
Following on from previous, similar anniversaries, the Pageant Master has asked
that councils and local communities consider taking part in a range of national and
local events on 8th May. These include raising of the special VE 80th anniversary
commemorative flag, reading of the declaration, reading of a VE Day tribute, pipers
playing from the UK’s four highest peaks, lighting of beacons, and gathering in
community spaces together to reflect.   
Plans are being developed by officers for the flag raising, reading of the Declaration
and reading the VE Day Tribute. The readings will be pre-recorded and shared on
social media at the appropriate times. 
In addition, local communities will be encouraged to take part in as many of the
national events as possible and a small amount of funding has been made available
to provide assistance for arranging local events. Details of the fund are currently
being finalised and will be issued shortly along with ongoing communications to raise
awareness of the anniversary.  
Information will also be shared with local schools who will be encouraged to consider
delivering appropriate learning activities and events in their own school communities
to mark this significant anniversary.  
Further updates will be shared with members in the coming weeks as community
plans continue to take shape.

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Councillor T Ferguson thanked the Member for his response and noted thanks to
Officers for their support to address issues faced by the community group on
Cumbrae. 
(9) a question by Councillor McLean to the Cabinet Member for Education in the
following terms:
How many young people does North Ayrshire Council, or its staff, including teachers,
social workers, support workers etc, assist in 'socially transitioning' without the
knowledge of their parents/guardians?
Councillor Macaulay thanked the Member for his question and responded in the
following terms:
We do not collect data or information around the number of young people who are
being supported in this way.
However, social transitioning is a very personal, intimate, and complex journey and
can vary from person to person.  Staff would always encourage a young person to
speak with family members where possible, as it is recognised that if a young person
receives the right support, then it can be a positive, affirming experience for both the
child and their family.
As a supplementary question, Councillor McLean asked about risk to North Ayrshire
Council should they implement the guidance of LGBT Youth Scotland?
Councillor Macaulay responded and advised he would not comment on speculation
and that the original question related to collecting data which had been asked and
answered. 
(10) a question by Councillor Bell to the Cabinet Member for Education in the
following terms:
To ask the Cabinet Member to publish the Equality Impact Assessments carried out in
respect of each individual school crossing patroller that will be removed as part of the
Council’s 2025/26 budget?
Councillor Macaulay thanked the Member for his question and responded in the
following terms:
As part of the budget process a full Equality and Children’s Rights Impact
Assessment was carried out and published ahead of the budget meeting.
In addition, individual assessments were carried out for all 50 of the current school
crossing locations.  These are not easily accessible to non-specialists, so we are
developing simplified summaries which we will share to ensure full transparency.  
As a supplementary question, Councillor Bell asked who made the assessments
when they were taken and what consultation took place with pupils, parents and
carers and childcare providers. He commented on the importance of having the
information publicly available.

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The Chief Executive clarified that the decision had already been taken by Council
and that the individual risk assessments were the traffic management studies which
were undertaken at each site. 
Councillor Macaulay responded and advised that the assessments will be shared
with Members and that the Council will actively engage with schools and
communities to promote road safety.
(11) a question by Councillor Inglis to the Cabinet Member for Communities,
Housing and the Islands in the following terms:
To ask the cabinet member if the council should follow the Scottish government and
use the money in the SHIPs net-zero fund to build more houses instead of putting in
expensive heating systems? 
Councillor Hill thanked the Member for his question and responded in the following
terms:
The Heat in Buildings Bill is still being developed by the Scottish Government and
revised proposals are anticipated in due course. 
In addition, as part of the decarbonisation approach to social housing, a new Scottish
Housing Net Zero Standard (SHNZS) is currently under consideration nationally and
will replace the previous Energy Efficiency Standard for Social Housing.
Compliance with the new standard is expected to be mandated and then monitored
by the Scottish Housing Regulator. 
Enhancing the quality of our existing Council housing to improve its energy efficiency
contributes to our Council Plan priorities by helping alleviate fuel poverty and
reducing the risk of dampness and mould by ensuring our homes are affordable to
heat, reducing carbon emissions, and increasing thermal comfort which can prevent
and/or alleviate respiratory and other health conditions.  
For all of these reasons, it is important that we take a balanced and proportionate
approach that includes investment in energy efficiency improvements to our existing
housing stock alongside the implementation of the Council’s housebuilding
programme, as was approved as part of the HRA budget setting report to full Council
on 12th February 2025.
As a supplementary question, Councillor Inglis asked the Cabinet Member if it was
justifiable for the Council to choose to fit expensive systems over building more
homes given the high numbers on the waiting list and the high number of residents
still in temporary accommodation. 
Councillor Hill responded and referred to the £185m allocation in the 30 year HRA
business plan to make energy efficiency improvements across the existing stock.
Capital plans include £105m for heating replacement although this is largely based
on gas. Initial estimates for replacing the gas systems with, for example, air source
heat pumps would cost in the region of £370m which is not currently budgeted for.
Therefore, in order to prepare for the new standards, the Council has committed
£500k to undertake a pathfinder project to look at what will be required to bring our

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housing stock up to the standards as are about to be set by the Scottish
Government. 
(12) a question by Councillor McLean to the Cabinet Member for Finance in the
following terms: 
What is the total cost budgeted in the 2025/26 budget for: a) teachers' pay awards?
b) non-teaching NAC staff pay awards?, c) Chief Officer pay awards? d) Cabinet
members pay uplifts(not including leader of the council)?, e) leader of the council pay
uplifts?, f) Committee chair pay uplifts?, g) all other councillor pay uplifts (including
leader of the opposition)?, h) The collective cost of all of the above? 
Councillor Larsen thanked the Member for his question and responded in the
following terms: 
The budget planning assumption for 2025/26 in respect of staff pay is that the
Council would fund up to 3% of any agreed increase. The approved Council budget
included the sum of £7.115million which covers all assumed staff and elected
member increases. The breakdown is as follows:-
a) teachers' pay awards – £3.445m
b) non-teaching NAC staff pay awards - £3.416m
c) SLT pay awards - £0.059m
The total anticipated cost increase in staff pay is £6.920m. This figure does not
include any increases in respect of the Health and Social Care Partnership. This cost
is estimated at £2.727m and was included in the Budget report presented to the
Integration Joint Board on the 20th March 2025. 
The approach to elected members pay has been different this year as a result of the
recommendations set out in the Scottish Local Authorities Remuneration Committee
(SLARC) Review. The review recommended that:
• the role of councillors be treated as a public office in the same way as MSPs
and MPs 
• Councillors be paid a salary of 80% of the median salary for all public sector
employees in Scotland - £25,982
• In respect of senior councillors holding specific responsibilities, there should
be 3 bands based mainly on size. The salary of the Leader of the largest
councils, Glasgow and Edinburgh, should be benchmarked at the salary of a
MSP – Band D - £71,519, medium size councils - Band C - £60,791 and
smaller councils - Band B, including North Ayrshire, £50,063
• Salaries of civic heads and senior councillors should be set locally but up to a
maximum of 75% of the salary of the Council Leader 
The total cost of this uplift is £0.195m and has been funded by the Scottish
Government as part of the 25/26 budget settlement.
As a supplementary question, Councillor McLean referred to a number of issues
including the cost-of-living crisis, low growth, including low private sector wage

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growth, increases in energy costs, the impact of inflation and the Council tax
increase and asked if it was moral to have implemented the rise in salaries. 
Councillor Larsen responded and advised this was funded by the Scottish
Government, that everyone is entitled to a pay rise, and that the independent review,
which was subject to extensive consultation, looked at the appropriate rate for jobs.
Councillor Larsen noted as this came from the Scottish Government review it does
not have any bearing on Council finances. 
(13) a question by Councillor Currie to the Leader of the Council in the following
terms:
Can the Leader of the Council, as co-chair of the Ardrossan Harbour Task Force,
update Council on when the next meeting of the Task Force will be held?
The Leader of the Council thanked the Member for his question and responded in
the following terms:
The Ardrossan Task Force is expected to re-convene soon. We are currently looking
to schedule this in April 2025. A date will be shared with Task Force members
following confirmation with Fiona Hyslop, Cabinet Secretary for Transport as co-
chair.
As a supplementary question, Councillor Currie asked as co-chair of the Ardrossan
Task Force and in light of the urgency of the reinstatement of Ardrossan Harbour as
the mainland port for Arran for the economies of Arran and the Three Towns, what
powers the Leader of the Council has to call, or influence the calling of meetings of
the Task Force to move the vital project forward.
The Leader of the Council responded and advised that she understood the
Member’s frustration and that as co-chair, any meetings of the Task Force must be
agreed between both Chairs. The Leader noted that the Scottish Government is in
the process of negotiating with Peel Ports to take ownership of the Harbour which is
something that this Council had asked for in the past therefore she is hopeful that
there will be useful discussions at a future meeting of the Task Force.
(14) a question by Councillor T Ferguson to the Cabinet Member for Education in
the following terms:
To ask the cabinet member for education if there have been any inappropriate
incidents reported relating to the use of gender-neutral toilets in our schools? 
Councillor Macaulay thanked the Member for his question and responded in the
following terms:
We do not systematically record or collect data on the number of such incidents.
However, we can confirm that there have not been any formal complaints to date in
this academic year relating to incidents in gender neutral toilets.
As a supplementary question, Councillor T Ferguson welcomed that there hadn’t
been any formal complaints, drew attention to incidents which have taken place in
other authorities and asked that the Cabinet Member ensured Members have full

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visibility of the Council’s response to the upcoming Scottish Government consultation
on single-sex spaces within the school provision prior to submission. 
Councillor Macaulay responded and advised that it is routine that any consultation
responses be taken to Cabinet for consideration prior to submission for which the
papers are published publicly. Councillor Macaulay also noted that although he was
unable to comment on incidents which have taken place in other authorities, to his
knowledge, in North Ayrshire there had been no substantial issues with either the
physical infrastructure or the day to day management of school toilets which would
give rise to concern that the Council is not meeting its obligations under the Equality
Act 2010, infringing on anyone’s rights or that pupils are going to school in an unsafe
environment. Councillor Macaulay encouraged any Member who has concerns about
this to raise it with himself and the relevant Council Officer directly. 
11. Motions
In terms of Standing Order 15, submitted:
(1) a motion by Councillor McLean, seconded by Councillor S Ferguson, in the
following terms:
“Council agrees:
(1) to implement a policy that with it will not introduce car parking charges in any
car park that it owns, controls or manages subject to the existing arrangements for
car park charging in Largs remaining in place. It will also not introduce on-street
parking charges. In the event that the Council operates the car park at Ardrossan
Harbour as part of a future operating model, car park charging by the Council for
the car park at the ferry terminal will also be permitted should that be required as
part of any business case for Council funding of the redevelopment of Ardrossan
Harbour in conjunction with partners. In addition, Council will not sell any car park
that it owns or transfer the operation or management of any car park to any person
or organisation which intends to charge for car parking with any contract for the
sale or operation being subject to the continued requirement of free car parking;
and
(2) to receive a report to a future meeting of the Council on the feasibility of
augmenting this policy through the formation of a byelaw on free parking.”
The Monitoring Officer clarified that in terms of the motion which concerned charging
in carparks, the electric vehicle charging points which may be situated within those
carparks would not be affected as there are already contracts let in that regard,
therefore the motion would not apply to of electric charging points.  
Members asked questions and received clarification from the mover of the motion
on:
• the length of time it takes to create a byelaw and the overall cost of this
process;
• part one of the motion and whether this was enforceable should the carpark
be sold to a third party;

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• whether there was any precedent for a Council introducing a byelaw against
itself; and
• the length of time it takes to revoke a byelaw. 
As an amendment Councillor Cullinane, seconded by Councillor Bell, proposed the
following: 
“Council instructs officers not to bring forward a proposal to introduce town centre
parking charges for the remainder of the Council term.” 
Members asked questions of clarification of the mover of the amendment and
received further information in relation to: 
• whether Officers could bring forward proposals or if this was reserved for
Councillors only;
• the difference between a proposal and options presented to Council with a
recommendation;
• whether passing the amendment would preclude Members from asking for
information for the remainder of the Council’s term; and
• whether there were any other policies implemented which would only operate
for the duration of the Council term; 
As a further amendment, Councillor Gurney, seconded by Councillor Collier moved
the direct negative. 
In terms of Standing Order 6.8, the Provost agreed that the meeting be adjourned at
3.21 p.m. for a short comfort break to consider the motion and amendment,
reconvening at 3.34 p.m. with the same Members and Officers present. 
In terms of Standing Order 15.1, Councillor Cullinane, seconded by Councillor Bell
proposed the following updated amendment: 
That Council does not introduce further town centre car parking charges for the
remainder of the Council term. The position on parking charges in Largs and the
Ardrossan Harbour business case will remain. 
A Member asked a question of clarification and received further information on
whether the amendment related to on-street car parking as well as Council owned
carparks. 
There followed summing up. 
On a division and a roll call vote, there voted for the amendment (direct negative),
Councillors Burns, Collier, Davidson, Dickson, Gurney, Hill, Johnson, Larsen,
Macaulay, McClung, McTiernan and Robertson (12), for the motion, Councillors S
Ferguson, T Ferguson, Gallacher, Inglis, McLean, Stalker and Stephen (7), with
Councillors Angus-McDonald, Bell, Cullinane, Currie, Foster, Montgomerie, D. Reid,
D.L. Reid and Sweeney (9) abstaining. The amendment was declared carried. 
Councillor Cullinane sought clarification on whether the amendment became the
substantive motion and subject to vote against the proposed Labour amendment.

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The Monitoring Officer confirmed that in terms of Standing Orders, the direct
negative having been approved by Council negated any other amendment. 
The meeting ended at 3:45 p.m.