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North Ayrshire Council
15 May 2024 
At a Meeting of North Ayrshire Council at 2.00 p.m. involving a combination of
participation by remote electronic means and physical attendance within the Council
Chambers, Irvine 
Present (Physical Participation)
John Bell, Marie Burns, Eleanor Collier, Joe Cullinane, Anthea Dickson, Stewart
Ferguson, Todd Ferguson, Robert Foster , Scott Gallacher, Cameron Inglis, Mary Hume,
Margaret Johnson, Christina Larsen, Shaun Macaulay, Jean McClung, Tom Marshall,
Ian Murdoch,   Nairn McDonald, Matthew McLean, Louise McPhater, Davina McTiernan,
Donald Reid, Ronnie Stalker, Angela Stephen and John Sweeney. 
Present (Remote Electronic Participation)
Tony Gurney, Alan Hill, Amanda Kerr, Donald L. Reid and Chloé Robertson.
In Attendance
C. Hatton, Chief Executive; C. Cameron, Director (Health and Social Care Partnership);
R. McCutcheon, Executive Director (Place); D. Hammond, Executive Director
(Communities and Housing); A. McClelland, Head of  Service (Education), M. Boyd,
Head of Service (Finance), F. Walker Head of Service (People and ICT); A. Craig, Head
of Service (Democratic), R. Lynch, Senior Manager (Legal Services); M. McColm,
Senior Manager (Communications),and H. Clancy, C. Stewart and S. Wilson,
Committee Services Officer (Democratic) (Corporate Services). 
Chair
Provost Dickson in the Chair. 
Apologies
Timothy Billings, Scott Davidson and Jim Montgomerie 
1. Provost's Remarks 
The Provost welcomed those present to the meeting and dealt with preliminary matters,
including intimation that the meeting, which was taking place on a hybrid basis, would
be live streamed to the internet. 
2. Apologies 
The Provost invited intimation of apologies for absence, which were recorded.

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3.  Declarations of Interest 
There were no declarations of interest in terms of Standing Order 11 and Section 5 of
the Councillors' Code of Conduct. 
There were no declarations of the Party Whip. 
4. Previous Minutes 
The accuracy of the Minutes of the Ordinary Meeting held on 27 March 2024 was
confirmed and the Minutes signed in accordance with Paragraph 7(1) of Schedule 7 of
the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973. 
5. Provost’s Report 
Submitted report by the Provost for the period from 18 March 2024 - 5 May 2024. 
Noted. 
6.  Leader’s Report 
Submitted report by the Leader of the Council for the period for 18 March 2024 - 5 May
2024. 
Noted. 
7.  Council Minute Volume 
Submitted for noting the Minutes of meetings of committees of the Council held in the
period 13 March 2024 - 7 May 2024. 
Noted. 
8. Report of the Returning Officer – Kilwinning By-Election 
Submitted a report by the Returning Officer advising on the outcome of the North
Ayrshire Council Ward 6 Kilwinning By-Election and on the Declaration of Acceptance of
Office by the new Elected Member, Mary Hume, for that Ward. 
Noted. 
The Provost formally welcomed Councillor Hume to the Council. 
Councillor Chloé Robertson joined the meeting at this point.

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9. Composition of Political Groups following the Kilwinning By-Election 
Submitted a report by the Chief Executive on the change in the composition of the
Opposition Groups following the Kilwinning By Election. 
Accordingly, the Council agreed to note the changes in the composition of the
Opposition Groups and that the Labour Group forms the main opposition with its leader
being the Leader of the Opposition who is remunerated as a Senior Councillor. 
10. Boundaries Scotland: 2023 Review of Scottish Parliament Boundaries 
Submitted a report by the Head of Service (Democratic) on the Boundaries Scotland’s
2023 Review of Scottish Parliament Constituency Boundaries. 
Councillor Burns, seconded by Macaulay moved approval of the recommendations set
out in the officer’s report.  There being no amendment, the motion was declared carried. 
Accordingly, the Council agreed to (a) note Boundaries Scotland’s 2023 Review of
Scottish Parliament Constituencies and the amended proposals for the alteration of the
constituency boundary for Cunninghame South following consideration of initial
consultation responses; (b) accept the revised proposals; and (c) receive further
updates as the Review progresses. 
11. Seagate Castle – Preservation and Conservation Works 
Submitted a report by the Executive Director (Place) seeking approval for an allocation
of £236,420 from the Irvine Common Good to carry out stabilisation and conservation
works at Seagate Castle, Irvine. 
A Member asked a question, and received clarification, on annual payments from the
Common Good Fund. 
Councillor Larsen, seconded by Councillor Macaulay, moved approval of the
recommendations set out in the officer’s report.  There being no amendment, the motion
was declared carried. 
Accordingly, the Council agreed to approve an allocation of £263,420 from the Irvine
Common Good to carry out stabilisation and conservation works at Seagate Castle,
Irvine. 
12. Congratulatory Motion 
In terms of Standing Order 15.3, submitted the undernoted motion, duly proposed and
seconded, which sought to congratulate, commend or recognise an individual or group
in relation to their achievement or activities within North Ayrshire:

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"The Kilwinning Scouting movement are rightly proud of King Scout Katie Roy and our
Silver Wolf Recipient Mr Alister Kerr (Ned) who took part in the Scouts day of
Celebration Event held at Windsor Castle on Sunday 21st April 2024. 
The event celebrated young people achieving the Top Award and amazing Adult
volunteers that support the young people in the Scouting movement. 
I'm told both Katie and Alister had a really special day with Katie parading in front of the
Chief Scout Bear Grylls. 
A wonderful day to celebrate the Scouting Achievement of Katie and Huge Commitment
to Kilwinning Scouts of Alister who are both fantastic Scouting Ambassadors. 
North Ayrshire Council acknowledges this tremendous achievement for both Katie and
Alister and sends its congratulations to both." 
There being no dissent, the congratulatory motion was declared carried. 
13. Questions   
In terms of Standing Order 14, submitted: 
(1) a question by Councillor Marshall to the Cabinet Member for Communities,
Housing and the Islands in the following terms: 
"Does the Portfolio holder agree that School librarians: 
1. deliver an extensive programme to support literacy across the curriculum;
2. assess reading ages through a test when pupils arrive in S1;
3. deliver the Learning to Learn programme to help pupils learn how to study; and
4. ensure that the library is a valuable resource in every school from juniors using it
to borrow books to being a safe study space for seniors where they can be
assisted in research and applying for university and further agree that School
Librarians are essential to improving attainment in literacy?" 
Councillor Hill thanked the Member for his question and responded by expressing the
view that libraries make a valuable contribution to young people’s learning and
development and referred to concerns by parents and pupils received following the
decision taken at the 28 February 2024 Council meeting.  
In terms of Standing Orders 23.1, Councillor Hill, seconded by Councillor Macaulay,
intimated that they wished to move a suspension of Standing Orders to allow
consideration of a motion on the redesign of the Library Service. 
On a point of order in terms of Standing Order 15.4, Councillor Foster sought
clarification on the relevant standing orders of the motion.

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The Monitoring Officer confirmed that the Standing Orders 15.1 and 25.1 required to be
suspended to allow consideration of the motion. 
There being no amendment, the motion was declared carried. 
Accordingly, the Council having agreed to proceed with suspension of Standing Orders 
to allow consideration of a motion, Councillor Hill, seconded by Councillor Macaulay
moved that Council agrees to delay the current implementation of the school library
redesign, planned for Aug 24, to allow further work to be done on the development and
communication of the replacement model. Implementation will be delayed until January
2025 at a cost of £100k which will come from the renewable energy contribution agreed
by council. A paper setting out the new operating model will be brought back to council
at the earliest opportunity. 
A Member asked a question of clarification in respect of the motion, with regard to the
delay of the implementation to January 2025. 
There being no amendment, the motion was declared carried. 
Following suspension of standing orders and the motions following thereon, resumption
of business as per the published agenda commenced. 
As a supplementary question, Councillor Marshall asked why parents and pupils were
not consulted on the Library Service redesign prior to the decision being taken. 
Councillor Hill responded by advising that the proposals considered by Council at the 28
February 2024 meeting had staffing implications therefore undertaking public
consultation was not appropriate prior to the decision being taken. 
(2) a question by Councillor McDonald to the Cabinet Member for Education in the
following terms: 
"To ask the Cabinet Member why the administration agreed to replace the hot light tea
in early years with a cold “late lunch” for the remainder of this term?" 
Councillor Maculay thanked the Member for his question and highlighted elements of
the following written response: 
“Whilst we complete service redesign processes, a temporary menu change has been
implemented in our early years establishments as part of our afternoon service. The
temporary menu change is in accordance with current Scottish Government guidance
and offers a healthy balanced diet with a range of tastes and textures. Hot meals will
return for afternoon sessions in August.”

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As a supplementary question, Councillor McDonald asked what engagement took place
with families affected prior to the change being implemented, that the food provision met
nutritional standards and whether there were any  associated financial savings as a
result of the menu change. 
Councillor Macaulay responded by undertaking to advise Councillor McDonald on the
financial implications and advised that the menu, which meets Scottish Government
guidance on nutritional standards, was put in place due to the service redesign and to
allow transition of new staff. 
(3) a question by Councillor T. Ferguson to the Cabinet Member for Communities,
Housing and the Islands in the following terms: 
"To ask the cabinet member for Finance to provide an update on the recent fire at Fenix
Battery Recycling Plant in Kilwinning?" 
Councillor Hill thanked the Member for his question and responded in the following
terms: 
“Following the serious fire incident at the Fenix Battery Recycling Plant last month, and
the prompt emergency services response, the incident is now in what is termed the
recovery phase. A multi-agency Recovery Group, chaired by the Executive Director
(Housing and Communities), has met on a regular basis to assess the consequences of
the incident, consider appropriate recovery planning and monitor progress by those
responsible for the site. This work sits alongside Scottish Fire & Rescue’s ongoing
investigation of the incident. 
A notice under Section 29 of the Building (Scotland) Act has been served on the owners
of the property instructing them to make the building safe and the site is now fully in
their control to proceed as required, whilst ensuring all statutory requirements are being
met. 
The owner has appointed specialist contractors who are at present preparing proposals
for the waste removal and demolition phase. Currently the site has 24 hour security, and
dust mitigation equipment has been deployed for use as and when required. 
The work on site is likely to be ongoing for some time, and the current multi-agency
approach to engaging with the site owner and their representatives will continue as
required, with the Scottish Environment Protection Agency playing a key regulatory
role.” 
As a supplementary question, Councillor Ferguson referred to a previous licence
transfer from the Scottish Environment Protection Agency (SEPA) to Fenix in 2022 for
the Kilwinning site, and whether SEPA advised the Council at any stage that Fenix had
previously been refused a licence on the grounds of competency.

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Councillor Hill responded by undertaking to advise Councillor Ferguson of the relevant
licence application details. He further advised that enforcement notices had been
served on 13th May 2024 instructing the removal of both damaged and fire damaged
batteries from the site in Kilwinning. 
(4) a question by Councillor Reid to the Cabinet Member for Education in the following
terms: 
"I have noted that the ambient snack provision is now under way in our schools. One
school has tweeted that they have been fundraising and organising equipment to
support the distribution of the ambient snacks. In the roll out of this scheme, was no
allowance made for equipment to facilitate the distribution of those ambient snacks
taking account of allergies and hygiene requirements?" 
Councillor Macaulay thanked the Member for his question and responded in the
following terms: 
“Light equipment has been provided to allow the efficient distribution of the healthy mid-
morning snacks to all primary school children.  A serving trolley was supplied to every
school with the exception of a couple of schools on the Isle of Arran where it was not
required. No school is required to purchase equipment required for this snack
provision.” 
As a supplementary question, Councillor Reid referred to allergy and hygiene 
requirements with regard to handling of ambient snacks and the impact of wasps and
insects when the snacks are being eaten in an outside environment. 
Councillor Macaulay responded by undertaking to raise the distribution issue with the
schools in question. 
(5) a question by Councillor Marshall to the Cabinet Member for Communities,
Housing and the Islands in the following terms: 
"Since the retirement of the main KA Leisure employee (on Arran) over 18 months ago,
KA Leisure has not been able to employ anybody to fill the role. This has meant that on
Arran the gym is closed, and community facilities are only open by special arrangement
with staff having to come over from the mainland. 
Will the Cabinet member commit to working with officers to find a different model of
operation for the community facilities at Arran High School which will enable them to be
open for regular gym and community events?" 
Councillor Hill thanked the Member for his question and responded in the following
terms:

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“Council officers are aware of the current situation and continue to be actively engaged
with KA Leisure to identify a more sustainable resolution. A range of options are being
investigated to make the best of use resources available on the island, including where
Council officers may potentially be able to assist and support.” 
(6) a question by Councillor Foster to the Cabinet Member for Health and Social Care
in the following terms: 
"Given the recent report that Canmore Children’s house was given a weak grade on the
quality of support for children and young people's rights and wellbeing, is this the SNP
Administrations way of keeping the Promise to care experienced people? 
Councillor Johnson thanked the Member for his question and responded in the following
terms: 
“Our Children’s Houses are homes for our young people, in which we aspire to provide
a safe, caring space. To bring negative headlines and connotations associated with a
Children’s House, can have a profound impact on the young people and staff alike.
Cllr Foster as Chair of the IJB in the previous administration knows he could have
raised his concerns with officers within HSCP. 
The Care Inspectorate report outlines a number of positives, which the Children’s
House will be proud of, including evidence of warm, nurturing relationships, and, despite
difficult circumstances, many of which are out with the Children’s House control, for
example the matching in process- for young people requiring placements, concerted
efforts by staff to provide individual time and support to young people and the overall
commitment and efforts of staff and management.” 
As a supplementary question, Councillor Foster asked the Cabinet Member to give her
view on the potential impact of children’s homes being overcrowded? 
Councillor Johnson declined to respond further. 
(7) a question by Councillor McLean to the Cabinet Member for Green Environment
and Economy in the following terms: 
"To ask the cabinet member for Green Environment and Economy, does he believe that
the current road management and maintenance plan is fit for purpose and sustainable
in its current form?" 
Councillor Gurney thanked the Member for his question and responded by advising the
plan is fit for purpose, run by dedicated officers in accordance with the asset
management plan and delivering the maximum return on investment with fewer roads
generally requiring maintenance over the last 6 years. On the matter of sustainability,
Councillor Gurney referred to ongoing budget challenges and funding allocations from
the Westminster government as well as the inflationary costs of materials and

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construction citing an example of the rough stone used in roads contracts having
increased in cost by 20% in the last year. 
As a supplementary question, Councillor McLean referred to the growing number of
electric and hybrid vehicles on the road which he asserted are heavier than a standard
internal combustion vehicle and asked if the current maintenance plan needs a refresh. 
Councillor Gurney responded and referred to the weight of traffic on the road with
regard to heavy goods vehicles and undertook to pass Councillor McLean’s comments
onto officers to ensure that this was accounted for in the maintenance plan. 
On a point of order, Councillor Cullinane asked and received clarification on the
application of Standing Order 14.4 relative to another Member asking a question to
Council which had been submitted by another Member. 
(8) a question by Councillor Cullinane to the Cabinet Member for Green Environment
and Economy in the following terms: 
"To ask the Cabinet Member for a breakdown of the assessed maintenance backlog for
Kilwinning schools?" 
Councillor Gurney thanked the Member for his question and responded in the following
terms: 
“Other than the routine repairs and maintenance issues to be expected across any large
property portfolio, there is no assessed backlog maintenance - rather there is property
condition information that helps shape our building lifecycle investment planning.” 
As a supplementary question, Councillor Cullinane referred to the maintenance backlog
of the estate asked if the Cabinet Member agreed that proactive investment in the
infrastructure is preferable to reactive maintenance.
Councillor Gurney responded and referred to the building lifecycle investment planning
regime and condition surveys designed to capture the investment needs across the
estate with budget being allocated on a priority basis. 
(9) a question by Councillor Marshall to the Cabinet Member for Education in the
following terms: 
"Given that the Portfolio holder takes a keen interest in the performance of football
League Tables can he explain why in the 2024 Times Newspaper's League Tables of
Scottish school's performance based on the number of pupils achieving 5 Highers, there
are now no NAC schools in the top 50?"

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Councillor Macaulay thanked the Member for his question and responded in the
following terms: 
“This question is based on a league table created annually by the Times newspaper
which focuses on a narrow interpretation of successful attainment, measuring only the
percentage of pupils who achieve more than 5 Highers.
School education is about a wide range of qualifications and experiences and success
should not be measured solely on one benchmark. 
The Education Service reports annually to Cabinet on the attainment outcomes of
leavers in North Ayrshire, and how this performance relates to the Virtual Comparator
and the national picture. A report will be presented to Cabinet in May which gives
specific details about the current picture across the range of attainment measures. 
With reference to the benchmark of 5 qualifications at SCQF Level 6 (including Higher)
or better, 35% of NAC learners left with at least 5 level 6 qualifications or better in 2023.
This is above the virtual comparator (of young people with similar characteristics to our
learners from schools across Scotland).
A nationally agreed set of measures called “Stretch Aims” has been produced and this
will form the basis of local and national reporting on attainment moving forward. 
It is important to stress the wealth of courses now on offer to young people across the
senior phase in our schools. Carefully planned options in the senior phase ensure that
appropriate pathways are available to support the needs and aspirations of ALL pupils,
and not only those who would have traditionally followed qualifications at Higher level.
Schools are increasingly offering diverse options, which include vocational learning
through Foundation Apprenticeships and other qualifications at levels 4-7 of the Scottish
Credit and Qualifications Framework. This ensures that our learners are equipped with
the skills and qualifications to go on to a positive post school destination (in 2023,
96.5% of NAC leavers entered a positive destination – this is our highest figure to date
and is above both the virtual comparator and the national figure). 
Our leavers are now more likely leave school with a broad range of qualifications. This
is likely to include some Highers in many cases, but also a blend of new alternative
qualifications which the Times does not include in its league table. 
We believe that the simplistic method of ranking schools in a league table format is
outdated and does not properly reflect or acknowledge the overall achievements of our
hard-working learners throughout our schools in North Ayrshire. Schools across the
authority continue to make very good progress in raising attainment and achievement
across the board.

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Reference: Equivalents
SCQF Level 4 = National 4
SCQF Level 5 = National 5
SCQF Level 6 = Higher
SCQF Level 7 = Advanced Higher.” 
As a supplementary question, Councillor Marshall referred to statistics which he
asserted demonstrated a decline in attainment and asked if a formal Education
Committee to discuss Education matters in depth would be better than the current
arrangements. 
Councillor Macaulay referred to the working group set up to discuss committee
structures which would report to Council in due course. He further advised on the
positive impact that North Ayrshire’s Education Service had on our young people and
highlighted the importance of equity in education and that poverty was the biggest driver
in pupils not being able to meet their full potential. 
(10) a question by Councillor Sweeney to the Cabinet Member for Education in the
following terms: 
"Does the Cabinet Member for Education believe that North Ayrshire Council is
providing a satisfactory Early Years Service?" 
Councillor Macaulay thanked the Member for his question and referred to the excellent
Early Years Service that North Ayrshire provides giving our pupils the best start in life. 
As a supplementary question, Councillor Sweeney referred to changes to the working
model with staff and children arriving at the same time and asked if this practice is safe
and sustainable?   
Councillor Macaulay responded and advised he would be happy to look into this further
with Councillor Sweeney and the Head of Service for Education. 
(11) a question by Councillor T. Ferguson to the Cabinet Member for Green
Environment and Economy in the following terms: 
"To ask the cabinet member for Green Environment and Economy to provide an update
on plans to deliver the safer speed limit of 20mph by 2025 on all appropriate roads in
built-up areas?"

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Councillor Gurney thanked the Member for his question and responded in the following
terms: 
“An assessment has been completed to identify roads suitable for the introduction of
20mph limits in residential and town centre areas. 
Plans have been prepared indicating the proposals to reduce existing 30mph speed
limits to 20mph where appropriate and maintain the 30mph speed limit at other
locations.  The nature of the road, frontages, and the strategic nature of roads has been
taken into account in developing proposals.  Draft proposals have been submitted to
Police Scotland and Strathclyde Partnership for Transport (SPT) for initial comments,
prior to finalising draft proposals for circulation and comment in June to Elected
Members.” 
As a supplementary question, Councillor Ferguson referred to the rollout of 20mph in
Wales, the cost of the policy and if the rollout will be fully funded by the Scottish
Government.   
Councillor Gurney responded and advised the costs would be taken into account when
finalising the proposals. 
(12) a question by Councillor Cullinane to the Cabinet Member for Education in the
following terms: 
"The remodelling of early years is causing a significant concern for staff and families. 
Can the Cabinet Member confirm how many early years practitioners will: 
(a) no longer have a contract following the review; and
(b) be asked to move to a different early year’s centre?" 
Councillor Macaulay thanked the Member for his question and responded in the
following terms: 
“Given the lower than projected uptake of early years provision, mainly as a result of a
declining birth rate, the budget for the Early Learning and Childcare expansion
programme was reduced by Scottish Government by over £1.5m. We are currently in
the final stages of the service redesign of our early learning and childcare provision to
ensure we can deliver a high-quality service within the available financial envelope.

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In response to part (a) of the question, at this time, 42 employees have come forward
requesting to leave the service through voluntary early release (VER) and these have
been granted, meaning that those staff will leave the service on 18 August 2024. All
other employees have either been aligned to a post within their own or another
establishment or have the opportunity to apply for one of the current vacancies. There
are enough vacancies at a range of work patterns and grades within the service to be
able to accommodate all remaining early years staff, should they wish. 
In response to part (b), we are still working through the organisational change process
so we are unable to provide a final number at this time. The service would be happy to
provide the Member with this information following the completion of the service
redesign. 
In order to recognise the staff changes in ELC establishments from August,
arrangements are being put in place prior to the summer holiday period for staff who are
moving to a new work location to have the opportunity to visit to familiarise themselves
with their new working environment, and to meet and begin to get to know the other
staff and children in advance of the start of the new term in August.” 
As a supplementary question, Councillor Cullinane referred to the workforce within Early
Learning and Childcare and the growing number of pupils with additional support needs
and asked if that had been factored into the process for remodelling the service and
what additional support will be offered to pupils with additional support needs during the
transitional phase. 
Councillor Macaulay responded and recognised that any remodelling has a period of
disruption, and that a transition period has now started to allow staff to become familiar
with the establishments where they will be based. The service continues to offer
additional support to children on a case by case basis. He further advised that if there
was a specific case causing concern, that it be brought to the attention of the Head of
Service so that it could be taken forward. 
(13) a question by Councillor McLean to the Cabinet Member for Green Environment
and Economy in the following terms: 
“Can the Cabinet Member for Green Environment and Economy tell me how many: 
1. DPE FPNs have been issued? 
2. how many have been paid in full, and how much was raised? 
3. how many have been paid at the reduced rate; and
4. how many have not been paid on time?”

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Councillor Gurney thanked the Member for his question and responded in the following
terms: 
1. “Decriminalised Parking Enforcement involves the issuing of Penalty Charge
Notices (PCN’s) as opposed to Fixed Penalty Notices which are issued for
littering and other offences. From 15 April 2024 to 30 April 2024 we issued 497
PCNs.
2. 218 have been paid and income of £10,900 has been realised.
3. 218 have been paid at the reduced rate.
4. None as the scheme started on 15 April 2024 therefore no payments are
overdue.” 
As a supplementary question, Councillor McLean referred to erroneous information
circulating on social media and asked about the process for tickets that have not been
paid. 
Councillor Gurney responded and advised that the Penalty Charge Notices should not
be ignored and are enforceable.  He referred to the charging and surcharge structure 
and that if not paid then the case will be passed to the Sheriff Officer for payment debt
recovery which will cost the customer more than paying the fine in the first place. 
Councillor Cullinane left the meeting at this point. 
(14) a question by Councillor Hume on behalf of Councillor Cullinane to the Cabinet
Member for Communities, Housing and the Islands in the following terms: 
"To ask the Cabinet Member for an update on work to re-establish after school care
provision in Kilwinning?" 
Councillor Hill thanked the Member for her question and responded in the following
terms: 
“Following the ceasing of availability of out of school care provision in Kilwinning,
parents were surveyed to seek out any interest in establishing a parent led service,
similar to services provided in other localities. Officers then turned to approaching
existing providers in other areas and were able to identify one provider who is interested
in expanding their service to Kilwinning. Officers are working with this provider to help
establish the additional capacity required, while they progress with other steps required
including registration with the Care Inspectorate. Accommodation for the service has
been identified within a local school. 
More widely, funding to support rural and school aged childcare was made available
through Covid Recovery funds and also via the Council’s Child Poverty and Early
Intervention Fund. These resources have supported existing services as they recovered
from changing childcare needs as a result of altered work patterns. The funds have also
enabled the provision of a specific post to help work with communities and providers to

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address local issues, with a recruitment process currently underway. This will help to
improve capacity to work with parents and communities to identify solutions.” 
(15) a question by Councillor Inglis to the Leader of the Council in the following terms: 
"To ask the leader for an update on where the council is with firework control zones?" 
Councillor Burns thanked the Member for his question and responded in the following
terms: 
“A working group of officers has been established to consider the implementation of
these new discretionary powers.    
Officers have met with representatives from Police Scotland and Scottish Fire and
Rescue Service to seek initial views on whether any Firework Control Zones (FCZ) are
required in North Ayrshire. The evidence presently available does not appear to indicate
a need to consider the proactive designation of an FCZ in North Ayrshire by the Council,
however this may change in future. Discussions are ongoing with Police Scotland
regarding the framework for information sharing for the purposes of FCZs.  Officers
have also met recently with representatives from the Scottish Government to discuss
the approach being taken to the designation of zones and associated processes.    
A process is being developed to enable communities to request that the Council
considers implementing a Firework Control Zone which would be submitted along with
reasons and evidence to support the request.  A Members’ briefing will be provided
once the application process has been finalised.  
There are ongoing reports being brought to the Police and Fire and Rescue Committee
regarding Operation Moonbeam, which is the collaborative response to the delivery of
community safety in the leadup to Bonfire Night delivered by the local authority, Police
Scotland and Scottish Fire and Rescue Service. Regular updates are provided to the
Police and Fire and Rescue Committee regarding the planning for bonfire night in North
Ayrshire. Reports evidence a proactive engagement with communities in North Ayrshire
regarding firework safety and clean-up operations.” 
Councillor Cullinane rejoined meeting during this agenda item. 
(16) a question by Councillor McDonald to the Cabinet Member for Education in the
following terms: 
"What engagement has the administration had with pupils campaigning against cuts to
school libraries?"

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Councillor Macaulay thanked the Member for his question and responded in the
following terms: 
“Following approval of the redesign of the school library service at the full Council
meeting on 28th February, officers have been working to develop the revised delivery
model in consultation with affected staff. 
Members of the Administration have received and responded to questions from pupils
regarding the changes. 
The next stage will involve further engagement with the school community prior to
implementation of the new model at the beginning of the 2024/25 academic year.” 
As a supplementary question, Councillor McDonald asked if the Cabinet Member will
commit to meeting with the pupils affected before the summer recess. 
Councillor Macaulay responded and advised he would be happy to meet with pupils and
Parent Councils to discussion how to take the model forward. 
(17) a question by Councillor Marshall to the Cabinet Member for Education in the
following terms: 
"To ask the Portfolio holder for Education, what is the number of formal exclusions and
informal exclusions in NAC Schools over each of the last 3 Academic years?" 
Councillor Macaulay thanked the Member for his question and responded in the
following terms: 
“The aggregate numbers of incidents of temporary exclusions recorded on the school
management information system (and therefore on the pupils’ record)  over the last 3
years and the current academic session (to date) is provided in the table below: 
School type 2020/21 2021/22 2022/23 2023/24 
(to date)
Primary 21 12 50 19
Secondary 152 309 321 314
ASN 0 1 14 2
Total 173 322 385 335 
There is no concept of an “informal” exclusion in school statistics.”

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(18) a question by Councillor Reid to the Cabinet Member for Health and Social Care in
the following terms: 
"Kilwinning Councillors learned from the local press of concerns over a children's home
in the ward including reported overcrowding, vulnerable users being placed in the wrong
setting and a lack of maintenance. Whilst There were some positives, the report
focused on the issues which appear to have been known and indeed may have been
reported on earlier. Why was there no communication with elected members on the
concerns raised by the Care Inspectorate and what actions are going to be taken to
improve matters?" 
Councillor Johnson thanked the Member for his question and responded in the following
terms: 
“The Care Inspectorate inspection took place over two days from 10th February, the
Council received the final inspection report on 16th April and all Elected Members were
provided a briefing on 26th April from the HSCP Director.  This briefing was issued not
only to advise of the inspection report, findings and outcomes and reassurance of the
improvement plans which are being progressed by the service, but also to put the
findings into context with the wider pressures for the Children’s Care system.   
Cllr Reid and other elected members will appreciate that our Children’s Houses are
home for our young people and aspire to provide a safe, caring home for young people. 
Any negative headlines or connotations associated with a children’s house can
therefore have a profound impact on the young people and staff.   Members can be
assured that the service have submitted a robust improvement plan to the Care
Inspectorate and have met with the inspectorate to discuss the same.  Examples of
actions include a new admissions procedure, a staffing needs assessment, a
strengthened approach to staff learning and development and all outstanding
maintenance work has been completed.  The service are required to meet the
improvements by 30 June 2024 and are confident that plans are in place to meet the
requirements.” 
As a supplementary question, Councillor Reid advised he would have preferred to hear
from officers of any concerns of Children’s homes and not from the press. 
At the invitation of the Provost, the Chief Executive provided further clarification on the
timescales for reporting this story in the press and that officers always endeavoured to
provide Elected Members with information as quickly as possible and would continue to
do so. 
(19) a question by Councillor McLean to the Cabinet Member for Green Environment
and Economy in the following terms: 
“Can the Cabinet Member for Green Environment and Economy give me an update on
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Councillor Gurney thanked the Member for his question and responded in the following
terms: 
“Following the completion of a desk-top review of our non housing estate and physical
inspections of ‘in scope’ properties (those with flat-roofs and built between the 1950’s
and 1990’s), 2 locations were found to contain RAAC; The Physical Education block at
Ardrossan Academy and the main storage shed at Mid-Dykes Streetscene Depot. 
Following discovery of the material, contingency plans were put in place.  Further
investigations were carried out and, mitigation strategies developed, design work
undertaken, and contractors appointed to undertake remedial work.   
For Ardrossan, works have been progressing well, with final works including finishes
and lighting reinstatement due to complete imminently. It is anticipated the school will
have access to the PE block by the end of this week. 
For Mid-Dykes, the storage shed at the depot remains closed whilst feasibility and costs
of mitigation measures are being finalised. 
In respect of the Housing Portfolio, we have also undertaken a desk-top exercise to
determine if any of our properties were at risk of containing RAAC. 
The desk-based review did not identify the likely presence of RAAC in any of our
homes. However, we are progressing a risk-based survey programme at “in-scope”
locations to mitigate any potential risks. 
One property from each in-scope building type (those with flat-roofs and built between
the 1950’s and 1990’s), from each relevant street or close grouping of similar buildings,
is being surveyed in the first instance. We have completed all surveys in the common
areas of the first tranche of these surveys, and all-but 3 surveys within tenanted
properties.  We are now commencing surveying each of 138 remaining in-scope
individual properties to ensure we are not relying on ‘property typing’ information alone.
Timescales are dependent on tenant access, structural engineer, and asbestos
surveyor availability; however, we are targeting to complete this by the end of summer.   
No RAAC has been found in any of our Housing properties to-date and It should be
noted that RAAC is an appropriate construction material where it has been properly
designed, installed and maintained. If found to be in good condition, the actions required
would be around communication and instigating a routine inspection schedule.” 
(20) a question by Councillor Sweeney to the Cabinet Member for Green Environment
and Economy in the following terms: 
"To ask the Cabinet Member if the Council has been in contact with the owner of the
former Rankins pub in Stevenston to ascertain their intentions for the building?"

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Councillor Gurney thanked the Member for his question and responded in the following
terms: 
“Officers previously issued a letter to the owner making them aware of support available
via the Repurposing Property Grant Scheme and inviting them to share their intentions
for the site with the Council. Officers within Protective Services have also tried to
contact the owner several times this year, but no response has been received.” 
(21) a question by Councillor T. Ferguson to the Leader of the Council in the following
terms: 
"To ask the Leader to provide and update on how many TVs have been procured by
NAC in the last five years?" 
Councillor Burns thanked the Member for his question and responded in the following
terms: 
“The Council’s procurement records indicate that a total of 144 TV’s have been
purchased during this period.” 
As a supplementary question, Councillor Ferguson referred to Headrigg Gardens
Sheltered Housing being unsuccessful in sourcing a new TV for their lounge room and
asked for the Leader to help move this forward? 
Councillor Burns responded and advised this would be a matter for the Chief Executive. 
At the invitation of the Provost, the Chief Executive advised that this matter would be
investigated and progressed. 
(22) a question by Councillor Reid to the Cabinet Member for Green Environment and
Economy in the following terms: 
"How many purple bin lid replacement requests were made to the customer service
centre in 2023-24 and how many have still to be actioned for repair?" 
Councillor Gurney thanked the Member for his question and responded in the following
terms: 
“For 2023/24 there were 2,283 requests for purple bin lid replacements and 1,529 have
still to be actioned for repair. 
After lengthy communications with the purple bin supplier seeking a remedy for the
issue a resolution was agreed recently which has secured a quantity of replacement bin
lids, at no cost. The Service are now able to progress the backlog of repairs and are
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As a supplementary question, Councillor Reid asked to make the process of requesting
a purple bin lid replacement online? 
Councillor Gurney responded that not all customers have access to use online facilities,
but the request would be added to the online form in the coming weeks. 
The allotted time of 60 minutes having expired, the Provost confirmed that the
remaining questions and responses, as circulated in advance of the meeting, would be
taken as read and included in the Minute. 
(23) a question by Councillor Marshall to the Cabinet Member for Health and Social
Care Partnership in the following terms: 
Self-Directed Support (SDS) allows people to choose how their support is provided and
gives them as much control as they want of their individual budget. Put simply SDS is
the support a person purchases or arranges to meet agreed health and social care
outcomes. Before SDS is granted there needs to be an assessment by social work. 
I ask the Cabinet member to provide the following information: 
1. How many persons in the North Ayrshire are currently awaiting an Assessment
for SDS and of these how many are in Ward 1;
2. How many persons in the North Ayrshire are currently awaiting the result of an
Assessment and of these how many are in Ward 1;
3. What is the average waiting time for the result of an Assessment;
4. On average how long does it take from the completion of the Assessment to the
award of SDS;
5. What is the budget for SDS for the current financial year and how many persons
are currently in receipt of SDS; and
6. In each of the previous 3 financial years much was spent in on SDS and how
many persons were in receipt of SDS. 
The written response by the Cabinet Member for Health and Social Care Partnership
was as follows: 
“As highlighted where there is a formal request to the HSCP to access care and support
there is a process which to undertake an assessment of a person’s care needs.  The
assessment process is undertaken in consultation with the individual, and any other
relevant stakeholders – for example carers, family members, GP etc and will take into
consideration what their care and support needs are, and how these can be met.   
Through this process of assessment, consideration will also be given to eligibility criteria
which considers 4 categories of risk to help determine whether the person receiving the
assessment is eligible to receive social care support.  Where it is identified that a person
has substantial or critical risks, then as part of the assessment process the service will
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the assessment.  There are a variety of ways in which care and support is provided via
each Self Directed Support Option, including services such as Day Care, Dementia
Support, Care at Home, Community Supports and Respite. 
There are 4 Self-Directed Support options as follows:   
Option 1 - a direct payment which is a payment to a person or a third part to purchase
their own support
Option 2 - the person directs the available support
Option 3 - the local council arranges the support
Option 4 - a combination of any of the above 
As described, Self Directed Support covers the breadth of social care services the
HSCP delivers.  Therefore I am unable to respond directly to your questions without
further clarity on your specific enquiries, I am confident however that HSCP officers will
be happy to support with the provision of information if you would like to contact them
directly. 
The SDS agenda is complex and there have been challenges with implementation
which are experienced across Scotland.  I have asked the HSCP to support a members
development session to ensure a shared understanding of the various options, how
these are accessed, typical SDS provision in North Ayrshire, challenges linked to the
delivery of SDS, Waiting List management and local actions that are in place to
minimise the impacts of these challenges and promote SDS.” 
(24) a question by Councillor Kerr to the Leader of the Council in the following terms: 
"To ask for an update on the work of the Ardrossan taskforce since the last Council
meeting?" 
The written response by the Leader of the Council was as follows: 
“The Taskforce has not met since the last Council meeting.  The next meeting is
currently scheduled for 16 May 2024.  During the intervening period, the focus of the
Ardrossan Task Force members has been on the preparation of the revised Outline
Business Case.  This has involved the coordination of feedback from partners and the
scheduling of further iterations, with the final objective being a public announcement on
the future of Ardrossan Harbour by summer parliament recess.” 
(25) a question by Councillor McLean to the Cabinet Member for Communities,
Housing and the Islands in the following terms: 
“Does the Cabinet Member for Communities, Housing and the Islands believe that our
community centres and associated associations are sustainable and to see if he is
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The written response by the Cabinet Member for Communities, Housing and the Islands
was as follows: 
“As the Member will know the council requires to find around £20m of revenue savings
over the nest few years. Sadly, therefore we do not have the resources available that
we would like to have available to support our excellent community associations in the
work that they do. We would all dearly like to provide greater funding to these bodies in
order to support the much-needed work that they do in their individual communities.” 
As a supplementary question received by 10am on the day following the meeting in
accordance with Standing orders Councillor McLean asked the following question: 
“I am aware that some centres are currently having their commitments and agreements
with the Council reviewed in light of pressures they claim to be facing, is it the view of
the cabinet member that any issues with regards to sustainability of centres lays
primarily with those individual centres and associations themselves rather than any
issue with regard to the overall policy or support provided by the authority?” 
The written response by the Cabinet Member for Communities, Housing and the Islands
was as follows: 
“A few years ago, the SNP Group ran a successful campaign to stop the then Labour
Administration from closing many of our community centres. To date we have managed
to continue to support their work, but this is becoming more challenging financially with
each passing year.  It is fine to question the Administration and Officers about these
matters however the real problem here is the continued austerity from the UK
Government which has cut the funding to the Scottish Government which in turn has cut
our available funding locally. The local Conservative Group are in a good position to
challenge the current orthodoxy within their Party and seek to change tax and spend
policies to ensure that more funding is available to support our local centres and the
valuable work they do assisting their local communities and countering the Tory Cost of
Living Crisis.” 
(26) a question by Councillor T. Ferguson to the Leader of the Council in the following
terms: 
"What events are being planned to mark the 80th Anniversary of the Normandy
Landings?" 
The written response by the Leader of the Council was as follows: 
“Community based groups in Largs and Skelmorlie have been supported in developing
events and displays to mark the upcoming 80th anniversary.  A display will be open to
the public in Largs Museum sharing the story of the landings including the the link to
planning sessions for the landing at Vanduara in Largs.

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The Secret Bunker in Skelmorlie will host a beacon lighting ceremony on the evening of
6th June. 
Coastwatch Scotland are also hosting an event on 6th June in Irvine, close to their
premises at Irvine Beach. 
The information boards at Largs Promenade have been re-created and installed in the
North Ayrshire Heritage Centre and will accompany a short film featuring local veterans
sharing their stories of D-Day.  
The anniversary will also be marked through the Council’s Heritage Team’s social
media channels.” 
As a supplementary question received by 10am on the day following the meeting in
accordance with Standing orders Councillor Ferguson asked the following question: 
“To ask the Leader to liaise with the Education Department to ensure that there are
appropriate 80th anniversary D-Day events and activities planned within our schools to
remember the sacrifices of all the brave men and women who were involved in this first
step towards the eventual liberation of Europe.” 
The written response by the Leader of the Council was as follows: 
“I am sure the Education team are aware of the significance of this anniversary but will
pass on Cllr Ferguson's comments." 
In terms of Standing Order 6.8, the Provost agreed that the meeting be adjourned at
3.25 p.m. for a short comfort break, reconvening at 3.45 p.m. with the same Members
and officers present and in attendance. 
14. Motions   
In terms of Standing Order 15, submitted: 
(1) a motion proposed by Councillor Gurney, seconded by Councillor Johnson, in the
following terms: 
“That the Council notes: 
• The scientific consensus is clear that human activities are primarily responsible
for accelerating global climate change, and that the climate crisis now represents
one of the preeminent threats to global civilisation.
• The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Sixth Assessment Report
states that it is unequivocal that climate change has already disrupted human
and natural systems and that societal choices and actions implemented in the

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next decade determine the extent to which medium- and long-term pathways will
deliver higher or lower climate resilient development.
• The International Energy Agency stated in its May 2021 report “Net Zero by
2050” that in order to reach that goal there should be no new oil or gas fields, or
new coal mines, as of that moment.
• The Paris Climate Agreement is silent on coal, oil and gas, an omission with
respect to the supply and production of fossil fuels (the largest source of GHGs)
that needs to be collectively addressed by other means; and that global
governments and the fossil fuel industry are currently planning to produce more
than double the amount of coal, oil and gas by 2030 than can be burned if the
world is to limit warming to 1.5°C and avert catastrophic climate disruption, and
such plans risk undoing the work of our Council to reduce GHG emissions.
• A new global initiative is underway calling for a Fossil Fuel Non- Proliferation
Treaty that would plan the end of new fossil fuel exploration and expansion,
phase out existing production in line with the global commitment to limit warming
to 1.5°C, and accelerate equitable transition plans globally. 
This Council recognises that: 
• Our entire community will be affected by the impacts of continued fossil fuel
expansion and resulting climate change, but particularly those who also face
socioeconomic and health inequities, including low-income families, those
experiencing homelessness, people from ethnic minority groups, young and old,
those experiencing mental and physical disabilities, and people with health
conditions; and our youth and future generations have the most to lose from a
lack of immediate action to stop fossil fuel expansion as they face major and
lifelong health, ecological, social, and economic impacts from prolonged and
cumulative effects of climate change, including food and water shortages,
infectious diseases, and natural disasters. This change is already being seen
with the necessary acceleration of extensive flood defences in many of our
towns. 
This Council believes that: 
• New fossil fuel infrastructure and expanded reliance on fossil fuels exposes
communities to untenable risks to public health and safety at the local and global
levels; and that the economic opportunities presented by a clean energy
transition far outweigh the opportunities presented by an economy supported by
expanding finite fossil fuel extraction and use. 
This Council resolves to: 
• Reaffirm our commitment, as part of our climate emergency response, to a just
energy transition and to ambitious investments in the green infrastructure and
industries that will create jobs and rapidly decarbonize our economy; and
recognises that it is the urgent responsibility and moral obligation of wealthy

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fossil fuel producers to lead in putting an end to fossil fuel development and to
manage the decline of existing production.
• Formally endorse the call for a Fossil Fuel Non-Proliferation Treaty and make
that endorsement public.
• Call on the Scottish Government to also endorse the call for a Fossil Fuel Non-
Proliferation Treaty.
• To write to COSLA and raise our serious concerns about the impact of the
climate emergency on local authorities and the need for a planned phase out of
fossil fuels, and to call on them to endorse the Fossil Fuel Non-Proliferation
Treaty.” 
In terms of Standing Orders15.1 and 16.5, Councillor Gurney, as the mover of the
motion and with the agreement of his seconder, agreed to withdraw his motion. 
(2)  a motion by Councillor McTiernan, seconded by Councillor Johnson, in the
following terms: 
“That the Council: 
• Stands in solidarity with the Women Against State Pension Inequality (WASPI
Women).
• Believes the women have been treated appallingly by the UK Government and
the Department for Work and Pensions.
• Supports the findings and recommendations of the Parliamentary and Health
Service Ombudsman, which found 'maladministration' on the part of the DWP.
• Calls on the UK Government to acknowledge the financial and emotional burden
its actions have imposed on WASPI women, and to fully fund compensation due
to the women, without further delay.
• Council instructs the Chief Executive to write to Mel Stride MP, UK Secretary of
State for Work and Pensions, intimating the Council's position and requesting
that the UK Government confirms it will act without delay to right the wrong
inflicted on WASPI Women. 
A Member asked a question of clarification about whether the motion was intended to
include  all WASPI women or only those affected by maladministration. 
There being no amendment, the motion was declared carried. 
(3) a motion by Councillor Marshall, seconded by Councillor T. Ferguson, in the
following terms: 
The CalMac ferry services to our islands of Arran and Cumbrae continue to offer poor
value for the residents, tourists and taxpayer alike and contrary to the aims of the Island
Plan contribute to the decline in population of both Islands.

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Both the Arran and Cumbrae ferry services underperform in terms, of reliability,
capacity, and frequency and in so doing threaten the Tourist economies of both Islands. 
The contract for the Clyde and Hebrides Ferry Services (CHFS) which are operated by
CalMac is due to be retendered in September 2024.
We move that the Chief Executive write to the Scottish Government and the Transport
Minister to express our view that the present contract for the Clyde and Hebridean Ferry
Service should not in its entirety be directly awarded to CalMac but should be
unbundled to seek a competitive tender for the Clyde Island Ferry Services and in so
doing provide better access to the Islands thereby ensuring that islanders lifestyle can
be improved, population decline reversed and the tourist economy reinvigorated. 
Members asked questions of clarification of the mover of the motion in respect of the
privatisation of the ferry service and the reference to poor value of the current service. 
As an amendment, Councillor Cullinane, seconded by Councillor Bell, moved the direct
negative. 
There followed debate and summing up. 
On a division and a roll call vote, there voted for the amendment, Councillors Bell,
Burns, Collier, Cullinane, Dickson, Foster, Gurney, Hill, Hume, Johnson, Kerr, Larsen,
Macaulay, McClung, McDonald, McPhater, McTiernan, D. Reid, Robertson and
Sweeney (20) and for the motion, Councillors S. Ferguson, T. Ferguson, Gallacher,
Inglis, Marshall, McLean, Murdoch, Stalker, Stephen (9), Councillor D.L. Reid
abstaining, and the amendment was declared carried. 
Accordingly, the Council agreed not to proceed. 
(4) a motion by Councillor McClung, seconded by Councillor Reid, in the following
terms: 
The release of helium balloons and sky lanterns has increased in recent years, and both
can cause significant harm to the environment, animals and livestock in particular. 
Sky Lanterns can cause considerable fire risk, particularly during dry spells. They also
pose a threat to animals, as they can cause injury, suffering, and death, through
ingestion, entanglement and entrapment. 
When eaten, the sharp parts of a Chinese Lantern can tear and puncture an animal’s
throat or stomach, causing internal bleeding. Likewise, helium balloons when they land,
become a danger to any wildlife, farmed animals or companion animals that may
happen to find them before this debris is removed. 
If ingested, the balloon can do irreparable, often fatal, damage to an animal’s
oesophagus and digestive tract and can cause suffocation. Scottish charity, Animal

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Concern, have launched a campaign seeking support from Scottish local authorities to
reduce the harm caused by these balloons and lanterns by placing restrictions on the
release of sky lanterns and balloons on council-owned land and property. 
Council agrees to support the Animal Concern Campaign and so imposes a complete
ban on the release of Sky Lanterns and Helium Balloons from any and all of the land it
owns. Information on this ban will be made available on the NAC website and will be
intimated to any person seeking to book any public space owned by the Council. 
A Member asked a question of clarification of the Monitoring Officer and was provided
with further information in relation to a similar motion to a  previous administration not
being accepted. 
There being no amendment, the motion was declared carried. 
(5) a motion by Councillor Reid, seconded by Councillor Gurney, in the following
terms: 
“Council previously passed a motion on animal welfare; it is time to refresh that motion
following changes in attitude and heightened concerns for animal welfare at touring or
one off events and the potential funding for these activities. 
At a meeting of North Ayrshire Council at 2.00 p.m. on 19 September 2012 
In terms of Standing Order 13 there was submitted: 
(b) a motion by Councillor Oldfather, seconded by Councillor Burns, in the
following terms: 
"That North Ayrshire Council agrees to adopt a Policy banning the letting of
Council owned sites to travelling circuses or similar organisations which utilise
animals in the provision of entertainment." 
There being no amendment, the motion was declared carried. 
Council asks that officers are instructed to carry out a review of council policy around
the following principles: 
• That council adopts a refreshed approach to limit and control the presence of
animals for entertainment in our venues, highways, parks and open spaces,
where it is legally possible to do so.
• That normally council would not support animals being out of their natural
environments for events where there is no clear benefit of education, competition
leading to national competitions or recognised need for a competitive event. Any
approval for the presence of animals would require to account of animal welfare
concerns including appropriate refuge from crowds.

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• That pet shows for domesticated animals at community events would be
permissible.
• That the policy would cover considerations of land and premises use
permissions, grant giving/conditions and licence. 
Council asks that the principles of the new draft policy and proposals for application,
implementation and enforcement are considered by the Policy Advisory Panel to obtain
detailed contributions from Members and that thereafter it is considered for adoption by
Cabinet.” 
A Member asked a question of clarification of the mover of the motion and the
Monitoring Officer in respect of licences, the remit of the Licensing Committee and the
implications for applicability and enforceability to include non-council land. 
There being no amendment, the motion was declared carried. 
15. Urgent Items 
There were no urgent items. 
The meeting ended at 4.35 p.m.